The happy days are here again, hopefully no more repeated arguments, transfer thread

[Corporate Wolf]

You could say that about any of the U23's - they had a very good season.
I struggle to see Mosquera as a first team player (though he may soon have to be) after playing only a handful of games in the top flight in his own country before we signed him.

As you say - Lage may not have a choice. Much depends on whether he believes he has the players to move to a back 4....
At the moment he will struggle to fill the subs bench.

 

[Supadavewolf]

I actually do think we've younger players to replace some of the outgoings, depending of course on how many we let out on loan.
Moutinho is the big worry for me. Not so much letting him go, but to replace him. Dendoncker and Cundle with all due respect doesn't do it.

As for waiting until September. We've 5 games in August. Team needs to be sorted before the season starts, not before September.

It would be ideal if we could sort it sooner rather than later, but we still have a decent enough squad to start the season - if no more leave!

Yes, Moutinho would be a big loss in terms of his experience and presence in the squad - hope we hear one way or another today.

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

You could say that about any of the U23's - they had a very good season.
I struggle to see Mosquera as a first team player (though he may soon have to be) after playing only a handful of games in the top flight in his own country before we signed him.

And Kilman had how many games for who?
If he's talented enough, give him the games here. If he isn't don't bother signing him.

 

[tamwolf]

He didn’t settle in the UK properly and wanted to go home. Nothing to do with not being able to sell a vision.

That's the line people want to take. Rob Edwards (who was his coach at the time) thinks it's because he wanted first team football and saw his opportunities for that as limited at Wolves though. Says its his ambition that made him leave.

Pedro Goncalves has gone from Wolves reserves to Sporting Lisbon's title hero and Champions League goalscorer

How Pedro Goncalves went from the Checkatrade Trophy with Wolves to lighting up the Champions League with Sporting. With insight from his old coach at Molineux...

www.skysports.com

 

[Scallywolf]

You really think that is going to happen?

Tbh no I don’t, based on past experience.

Their silence is deafening!

 

[wolfslair]

That's the line people want to take. Rob Edwards (who was his coach at the time) thinks it's because he wanted first team football and saw his opportunities for that as limited at Wolves though. Says its his ambition that made him leave.

Pedro Goncalves has gone from Wolves reserves to Sporting Lisbon's title hero and Champions League goalscorer

How Pedro Goncalves went from the Checkatrade Trophy with Wolves to lighting up the Champions League with Sporting. With insight from his old coach at Molineux...

www.skysports.com

That is what many of us thought anyway, so not shocked in the slightest.

Look at Vitinha, Nuno didn’t play him anywhere near enough, he was a star in the Portugal u21 team that includes Viera who just got a big move to arsenal. It was clear he had a significant amount of potential and just needed blooding. This player of last season didn’t just come out of nowhere……

Easy to say and believed that he left as being homesick. As if you are young and ambitious in a foreign country and made the move to get opportunities and don’t get them. So he left and going back home was the easiest option

 

[Bryce]

7th 7th 13th 10th

Not doing too bad.

Just playing devils advocate.

7th good counter attacking
7th Traore and Raul shine
13th not able to score, turgid football Nuno sacked
10th thanks to an over performing defence and GK for two thirds of the season but plummeted out of recognition once performance regressed to the norms. Not able to score enough.

You can see the pattern?

 

[Northampton_wolf]

7th good counter attacking
7th Traore and Raul shine
13th not able to score, turgid football Nuno sacked
10th thanks to an over performing defence and GK for two thirds of the season but plummeted out of recognition once performance regressed to the norms. Not able to score enough.

You can see the pattern?

Need goals.

Right then anyone up a tree at compton to see the internationals come back

 

[North West Wanderer]

That's the line people want to take. Rob Edwards (who was his coach at the time) thinks it's because he wanted first team football and saw his opportunities for that as limited at Wolves though. Says its his ambition that made him leave.

Pedro Goncalves has gone from Wolves reserves to Sporting Lisbon's title hero and Champions League goalscorer

How Pedro Goncalves went from the Checkatrade Trophy with Wolves to lighting up the Champions League with Sporting. With insight from his old coach at Molineux...

www.skysports.com

I still maintain that isn’t us not selling a vision.

 

[North West Wanderer]

7th good counter attacking
7th Traore and Raul shine
13th not able to score, turgid football Nuno sacked
10th thanks to an over performing defence and GK for two thirds of the season but plummeted out of recognition once performance regressed to the norms. Not able to score enough.

You can see the pattern?

Absolutely. I also think that signing loads of players isn’t always the answer. As I said playing devils advocate.

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

7th good counter attacking
7th Traore and Raul shine
13th not able to score, turgid football Nuno sacked
10th thanks to an over performing defence and GK for two thirds of the season but plummeted out of recognition once performance regressed to the norms. Not able to score enough.

You can see the pattern?

Not really.

 

[tamwolf]

I still maintain that isn’t us not selling a vision.

Of course you do.

 

[North West Wanderer]

Of course you do.

He moved as he wanted first team football according to the article you linked. I deal in facts, you deal in interpretation.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

Neves, Jota and Costa were already established players elsewhere so completely irrelevant. Neto yeah, but it took him a while to actually get starts even after impressing. Neto started 9 league games for us in his first season. Kilman like I said was dropped despite impressing. MGW yeah, we did try and force the issue with him but he wasn't ready. So in my opinion Nuno was very tough on unproven youngsters and I can see how others would be put off by that approach.

Neves was out of favour at Porto, Jota and Costa never even played for their parent clubs and were loaned out even before being loaned to Wolves,

 

[Flaneur]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1543882843872526336

 

[Mugwump]

That's the line people want to take. Rob Edwards (who was his coach at the time) thinks it's because he wanted first team football and saw his opportunities for that as limited at Wolves though. Says its his ambition that made him leave.

Pedro Goncalves has gone from Wolves reserves to Sporting Lisbon's title hero and Champions League goalscorer

How Pedro Goncalves went from the Checkatrade Trophy with Wolves to lighting up the Champions League with Sporting. With insight from his old coach at Molineux...

www.skysports.com

It's probably a combination of both things. There was no doubt he was homesick because there was an interview with Neves ( I'll have a look for it at some point when i feel a little better, this covid is knocking me around!) where he said despite all their best efforts he didn't really settle. Combine that with not playing and you can see why he wanted to go back to Portugal.

 

[Flaneur]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1543881725817790464

 

[5150]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1543882843872526336

Looks chuffed to bits about it, doesn't he

 

[Northampton_wolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1543881725817790464

wonderful.. and here i had hope

 

[WKFWolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1543882843872526336

hes not smiling - he looks furious - he cant have wanted to go there /sarcasm

 

[Oh When the Wolves]

7th 7th 13th 10th

Not doing too bad.

Just playing devils advocate.

Agreed - but with some massive fortune IMO.

Don’t you think last year was a missed opportunity?

 

[Corporate Wolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1543882843872526336

Good luck to him. Hope he shines in the Premiership.

 

[Deleted member intdint]

That's the line people want to take. Rob Edwards (who was his coach at the time) thinks it's because he wanted first team football and saw his opportunities for that as limited at Wolves though. Says its his ambition that made him leave.

Pedro Goncalves has gone from Wolves reserves to Sporting Lisbon's title hero and Champions League goalscorer

How Pedro Goncalves went from the Checkatrade Trophy with Wolves to lighting up the Champions League with Sporting. With insight from his old coach at Molineux...

www.skysports.com

Nonsense, the club asked Neves to let him live with him and his family, but he still couldn’t settle and was going home quite often. Club allowed him to go back several times, club tried to support him the best they could.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1543881725817790464

wonderful.. and here i had hope

I've finally come round to the belief that selling MGW would be a mistake.

Not because I think he's unsellable....just because we would be selling him to fund a deal for a similar player who plays in a similar position.

I'd rather give the local lad a go.

 

[jonesy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1543881725817790464

wonderful.. and here i had hope

Might be the only way in bringing anyone new in by selling him but sure fosun are great and we never had it as good

 

[Northampton_wolf]

I've finally come round to the belief that selling MGW would be a mistake.

Not because I think he's unsellable....just because we would be selling him to fund a deal for a similar player who plays in a similar position.

I'd rather give the local lad a go.

Same logic on my point, he deserved his new contract for his performance last year.

The assists and goals he scored he would vy with podence to get in the team.

Now without moutinho he may play straight from midfield.

 

[lobodelsur]

We waited until the end of the window for the last 6 windows with respect

Because we have to wait our turn.
The 35 clubs (in the 5 big European leagues) which have qualified for European competitions get to choose first. Or rather players look to get a contract with one of them.
Then we get to have a say...along with Vile, Soton, Everton etc

 

[Guzeppi]

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

Same logic on my point, he deserved his new contract for his performance last year.

The assists and goals he scored he would vy with podence to get in the team.

Now without moutinho he may play straight from midfield.

Yes ... I love Podence but he's very much an 'on his day' player. Similar to MGW.

I just don't think a club like us - a club that really struggles to score can let talented attackers go. Or should.

Moutinho is staying but I'd still wager MGW gets starts from there.

 

[Scallywolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1543881725817790464

Thelwell might be having a say in that now he’s at Everton.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

Thelwell might be having a day in that now he’s at Everton.

Good point.
I just really really want Morgan to succeed here. I love how he plays the game with genuine confidence and tries things.
It's why I love Podence too

We are a secure pl club, yes, but my god we are dull to watch! More players like pod and MGW would excite me.

 

[Northampton_wolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1543885496203493376

 

[Matt]

If we start selling our best young players to teams around/below us we may as well give up.

 

[North West Wanderer]

Agreed - but with some massive fortune IMO.

Don’t you think last year was a missed opportunity?

Perhaps, it was certainly a disappointment to end with a whimper. I do have doubts re the manager.

 

[lobodelsur]

Absolutely. I also think that signing loads of players isn’t always the answer. As I said playing devils advocate.

It seems we're all pretty much agreed that 2 or (maximum) 3 new players would be enough to make us seriously competitive - provided they are the right players of course...

 

[Contrarian]

You could say that about any of the U23's - they had a very good season.
I struggle to see Mosquera as a first team player (though he may soon have to be) after playing only a handful of games in the top flight in his own country before we signed him.

Yes, agree on that. That's why the point I was making was that if you could graft Mosqueras mentality onto Trincao's natural talent, you'd have some player!

 

[North West Wanderer]

It seems we're all pretty much agreed that 2 or (maximum) 3 new players would be enough to make us seriously competitive - provided they are the right players of course...

Yep for sure.

 

[Sedgley Gold N Black]

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so this is far more realistic and this was before Kilmun renewal etc

If that’s anywhere near true, Dendoncker has a very good agent.

 

[goldfish]

It's probably a combination of both things. There was no doubt he was homesick because there was an interview with Neves ( I'll have a look for it at some point when i feel a little better, this covid is knocking me around!) where he said despite all their best efforts he didn't really settle. Combine that with not playing and you can see why he wanted to go back to Portugal.

I doubt the club wanted to spread the 'homesick' narrative: it'll be hard enough selling Wolverhampton as it is!

 

[Flump]

If that’s anywhere near true, Dendoncker has a very good agent.

It's obviously not. No website has the details of every player's contracts - and if they did, they certainly wouldn't give that information away for free!