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‘Been told there’s no truth in the rumours’……He didn’t say that as far as I’m aware.
‘Been told there’s no truth in the rumours’……He didn’t say that as far as I’m aware.
He really doesn't imo, his opinion changed quite a lot time ago.
... By his inner anti-Chinese sentiment‘Been told there’s no truth in the rumours’……
I think this kind of local journalism is largely obsolete once you get to bigger Championship and Prem clubs tbh. Fifteen years ago people working around Molineux and Compton would have been the most ITK and someone like David Instone could cultivate a mutually beneficial relationship. Now, the people who know the most are global agents and foreign-based owners. Tim can't invite Mendes down the Great Western and get him to spill the beans after one too many bitters. There are a few global 'mega journalists' close to key agents, club Presidents etc (Fabrizio Romano) who get titbits, but they're international transfer specialists, not club or regional journalists. And so the 'long-read' exposing the inner workings of clubs, often including an interview, replace transfer speculation as the main format for club journalism. That's what The Athletic's premised on and the direction Liam Keen at the E&S is going in.I liked Spiers writing, but with regards to any reliable Wolves info/news, the most important part for me, is whether the local reporters has any good sources at the club. None of those currenty seem to have that.
Tim to me seemed to have some access to snippets of info, but generally Wolves was pretty much a close shop in that regard and he often seemed to try and cover all possible scenarios in his writings, because essentiallly he knew very little
Will it be any different for the new guy?
Who knows...
But it does take time to build up a good network of sources, especially sources inside a club. Spiers took years to do that and even his info was pretty sparse.
Just polite to him with the usual hello, how are you etc he completely had disinterest and couldn't be bothered to speak. I was expecting him to be abit more polite and friendly like he relays in his tweets, was completely the opposite, shocked me tbh. Seen him a few times since then so not bothered putting myself out again.What did you say to him out of interest?
Just cancelled the new guy ‘s absolutely abysmal.Good luck Tim. Sorry to see you go. New bloke on a 3 month trial as far as I’m concerned
To be fair his recent article on the pre-season training camp in Spain was very good.Just cancelled the new guy ‘s absolutely abysmal.
I haven't cancelled - yet.To be fair his recent article on the pre-season training camp in Spain was very good.
The irony being he was concerned for a while then chilled while folks here chilled and are now concerned!Think it is doomed. The notion of a fanzine that covers multi clubs just won’t grab enough attention, when people simply crave news about their own club only.
I though TS was ok, and was Wolves through and through, it just showed that he was anti FOSUN at the time.
Given how long they’ve been offering it at £1 a month, can’t see how they can sustain it without massive subscriptions.The Athletic as a whole has gone downhill. I won’t be renewing next time.
Wouldn't disagree with any of that. The Athletic demonstrated what they thought of us when they cancelled our excellent podcast with Tim and Jacqui and doubled or tripled the amount of weekly podcasts for other Premier League teams. You do get the impression they're all about the big teams and just play lip service to the rest of the Premier League because they have to. I can only imagine that there aren't many subscribers who follow Wolves in comparison to some of the other teams and therefore we are a low priority.I haven't cancelled - yet.
Much preferred TS to SM have to say, not sure the athletic is worth it now.
The Wolves stuff just feels like it's written by a journalist not a fan. I think Tim was both.
The Athletic as a whole has gone downhill. I won’t be renewing next time.
I think it’s financially feasible so it will continue. Its worked in the US for years, but will never be a big earner, i have a feeling they will end up being acquired by an upcoming streaming service like DAZN or Amazon Prime to supplement their contentThink it is doomed. The notion of a fanzine that covers multi clubs just won’t grab enough attention, when people simply crave news about their own club only.
I though TS was ok, and was Wolves through and through, it just showed that he was anti FOSUN at the time.
I cancelled my renewal when Tim left. Some good articles but not worth the subscription rates now.
“the Wolf Whistle” is a good one for hearing from and about our former playersStill annoyed they cancelled the Wolves podcast too. Easily the best one.
I probably won’t renew either when my subscription runs out in September I really only read the Wolves articles and I find this new guys writing VERY dry. He doesn’t do the fun tweets during matches that Tim used to do either basically he’s boring!Just cancelled the new guy ‘s absolutely abysmal.
Completely agree. Feel bad to say it but if your job is to cover a Premier League club, perhaps going to their games would be a pre-requisite? Irrespective of family commitmentsGod knows why this new guy is covering us. He isnt even going to Portugal and left early from Spain. At least get someone who really wants to cover our club. He is a **** fan as well isnt he? That says it all. Glad I dont pay to read this ****e to be honest.
Ha! Exactly what I was going for. Good spotAnyone else hear Ozzy Osbourne when reading the thread title?
My issue with the Athletic isn’t so much the new guy but the type of media outlet they’ve become.
I’ve just cancelled my subscription and when asked for my opinion I thought I may as well give it, not that they’ll care:
“You’ve removed the wolves podcast which I enjoyed and replaced the wolves corespondent who I enjoyed following.
You originally came in to the market offering something different, in depth content on individual clubs and situations rather than clickbait chasing articles like other providers. I paid for that experience and enjoyed it however you’ve diluted this by following the crowd with transfer gossip pages and an apparent loss in focus on your original M.O.
Content about my club seems to have reduced as does quality to the extent where I question why I pay for this service when I can get regurgitated puff pieces elsewhere for free.”
It’s a shame as I really liked the product you originally sold, shame you’ve sold out chasing numbers instead of focusing on your original values.”
I doubt they’ll care as long as they can sell hordes of £1 a month subscriptions to people who forget they’ve got it and never cancel. I’d much rather pay £5 a month or so for what they originally promised to offer which was something different as opposed to what they offer now which is little different to most outlets.
Exactly that. I joined as soon as it came to the UK with football coverage, and it was indeed everything you said initially.My issue with the Athletic isn’t so much the new guy but the type of media outlet they’ve become.
I’ve just cancelled my subscription and when asked for my opinion I thought I may as well give it, not that they’ll care:
“You’ve removed the wolves podcast which I enjoyed and replaced the wolves corespondent who I enjoyed following.
You originally came in to the market offering something different, in depth content on individual clubs and situations rather than clickbait chasing articles like other providers. I paid for that experience and enjoyed it however you’ve diluted this by following the crowd with transfer gossip pages and an apparent loss in focus on your original M.O.
Content about my club seems to have reduced as does quality to the extent where I question why I pay for this service when I can get regurgitated puff pieces elsewhere for free.”
It’s a shame as I really liked the product you originally sold, shame you’ve sold out chasing numbers instead of focusing on your original values.”
I doubt they’ll care as long as they can sell hordes of £1 a month subscriptions to people who forget they’ve got it and never cancel. I’d much rather pay £5 a month or so for what they originally promised to offer which was something different as opposed to what they offer now which is little different to most outlets.
I don’t expect I will either, I doubt they’ll care about one person’s opinion as long as they can sell thousands of memberships at £1 a month to people who forget about them that eventually auto renew they’re getting more than they’d get from me and people like me paying that bit more for the actual quality they once proclaimed to offer.Its a great response. Love to hear what they say if they respond (which I don't expect they will)
Yep, still some decent stuff on there but amongst a lot of crap, especially at this time of year where they’re fully on the transfer rumour bandwagon.Exactly that. I joined as soon as it came to the UK with football coverage, and it was indeed everything you said initially.
Now it’s the same as all other media, 5x as many articles about the usual suspects, more than 1 per day on the Ronaldo and Haaland sagas, general bandwaggoning rather than the depth and breadth that went before.
There are still the odd good ones, I like the analysis pieces from Cox, Carey et al, and the most recent Madeley one wasn’t bad…just find him dry to the point of dull, which you could never accuse Spiers of.
Some found his ‘laddish’ turns of phrase too much, but for me that’s what you should get from a real football fan that’s blessed with some word-smithery.
Completely agree. Feel bad to say it but if your job is to cover a Premier League club, perhaps going to their games would be a pre-requisite? Irrespective of family commitments
By all accounts, our first 11 is good enough to be top 7, but the rest of our squad wouldn't even get promoted from The Championship. To be honest, if we don't sell anyone, I'm pretty optimistic about our chances this season. If a miracle happens and we sign Nunes, then i think we're nailed on for Europa Conference League.Listened to the main Premier League podcast on The Athletic today, covering predictions and expectations for the season They had Spiers on. The producer had Wolves in the section of clubs expecting to struggle (with Everton, Leeds, Southampton), but Tîm was very bullish about Wolves new formation and Lage's coaching and predicted us to come 7th. Never thought he was particularly optimistic in the past, so was quite surprised.