Said before Lopetugui and Mendes were Cunha and Sarabia.....
For what.. He should be applauded he kept us up!! The way he left so what he’s an elite manager
That's an interesting bit of information, fair play to Hobbs, it was those players that kept us up. Lopetegui organised them well and, unlike Lage, could respond to the situation in the games, an area O Neill is still working on imo.
I would have loved to have seen who they bought in if they had have had the funds as all the noises were they were very much on the same page and working well together.
Sorry I haven't read Dyers autobiography, better things to do.
While I agree Lopetegui isn't an "elite" manager - a term I would personally equate with the "world class" descriptor for players (and maybe applying to the top ~25 coaches in world football), it is factually inaccurate to claim he has been a club manager for 20 years.
I thought JL was actually very complimentary to the club, not least the fans and Hobbs. He was publicly critical of Shi and Fosun (who are the stewards of the club, not the club itself) for concerns that have broadly come true. If Palace beat us on Saturday, we will probably finish lower than we did last season - the one where we were rock bottom at the 40% mark. If not for Everton's punishment for past sins, 15th, which is Mick McCarthy territory.
Then the imperative is for someone in Shi's position to understand from those above him as best as possible the drivers and constraints that can de-rail the strategy and be as present and as transparent as possible to those below so that they not only understand what is going on and why, but feel empowered to take ownership.
You know what the SB is like mate. Come on
I agree. It will happen I just think he’s less deserving of stick tbh nunes I understand the way he left but we aren’t even a top 10 pl club what do we expect from managers and players who have ambitions to progress? They won’t want to stay long at a mid table club. We’ve turned into a bottom half club from cutting back. While we aren’t 18th 19th or 20th Fosun won’t care
If that is the case Fosun should be selling the club or they lose all of the value of their asset.
For making last summer into the Julen and Guillem show, including a special episode when he was on an official club tour.
Utter rubbish. They spent about half of their revenue from sales having pretty much sold their whole team.
There are certainly less likely to be three "victim teams" below us next season.
That last sentence is nigh on impossible based on past precedent.
And who do you think will replace them? we are not going to be bought by a gulf state. We would be prime candidates for some dodgy US syndicate like 777. Do we really want to risk dancing with that particular devil?
That's a hell of a lot of assumption right there. And you have no idea if a gulf state is interested.
And for what Fosun have given us they will forever be remembered as the owners that put us back in the big time.
Speak for yourself. Fosun still have my welcome and I guess the majority of supporters. The ground looks full every home game and I don't hear fans complaining about them. At the end of the day we're an established (7years) PL club - the highest level of club football don't forget - which is down to Fosun at the end of the day and I don't take it for granted.
I don't understand your obvious dislike for the bloke. I'm guessing you don't think he played his part in keeping us in this division.
I don't recall questioning your views on Moyes being an elite manager. In my view he's an above average EPL manager.
Because as our season has petered out we're back in the 'I told you so' times.
Transfermarkt appear to have gotten the Vallecano stat wrong. 10 games it is. Even so, it's a stretch to say he has been a club manager for 20 years. That implies he had a number of jobs consistently across that time, and lost all of them. He had a whopping 10 games as a total rookie in 2003, then didn't manage a first-team club side for another 11 years - because he was serving his country (with distinction) at youth level. He didn't really become a manager in earnest until 2010 if we're being fair, when he took the Spain U19 job.
I agree, we need to move on and get back to deciding what we "shoould" do with Fabio.
Both your sentences are wrong.
But then the season will be over and we'll have two months where we discuss the liquidator Vs Hi Ho Silver Lining
Do we need a new thread with a new poll? Asking for a friend
shi can’t have it both ways… he either lied to loppers or he had completely lost touch with the clubs finances.
yep the wheels have come off big time - not GONs fault - but there is a problem at the club and it needs fixing. This is looking like a slow motion car crash replay of Bruno Lage’s reign.
I'll have you know Danny Dyer's a proper royal geezer, being related** to Edward III.
And Gary would likely have been in a relegation battle this season without the efforts of Cunha and Neto, too. If my auntie had a willy...
