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World Cup 2020

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by Sedgley Gold N Black, Feb 24, 2015.

  1. Sedgley Gold N Black

    Sedgley Gold N Black Just doesn't shut up

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    Fifa's task force recommend the World Cup should be held in November through to December with the Exc. Committee to finalise it next month.
     
  2. Sephiroth

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    At least this way it wont clash with Euro 2020 in the summer! :D
     
  3. Soho Wolf

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    Moving it back 2 years is a bit harsh though.
     
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    absolute $$$$ing disgrace but qwas an absolute disgrace it being held there in the first place.

    glad I've finished with international football for sometime, won't even watch it
     
  6. Jonzy54

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    Make it the 2021 World Cup now then .
     
  7. Sedgley Gold N Black

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    I didn't think we were due another WC quite so soon as next year, almost had me though - I was close to googling WC 2016.

    If all football fans feel strongly enough about this they simply snub the event whether that be viewing via TV or attending the games. I honestly cant believe that they're planning to go ahead with this, it's ridiculous.

    I wonder what the various football associations, players and clubs stance is. If the league has to "shut down" for two months there will be no time for a close season the following summer going into the 2023/2024 season?!
     
  9. paddy

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    Can the fa and pl insist on their fixture list being fulfilled , so penalizing those arab and us owned clubs filled with foreign stars..
    Or do they have to comply and do as FIFA say
     
  10. SanFranWolf

    SanFranWolf Transfer summary thread supremo

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    Will affect us quite badly - By the time this happens the entire England squad will be made up of players currently in our Academy.
     
  11. FLEET WOLF

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    Indeed and we may struggle in our attempts to win the Champions League for the third consecutive year!
     
  12. Sedgley Gold N Black

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    Shouldn't affect the CL too much so we will be alright if we focus on that more so than the domestic cups. I think we can afford to let them slide after winning the both the year before.

    Will be interesting to see if we can win a unique treble with the league, CL and Wolves, sorry England, favourites for the WC ;)
     
  13. clifs

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    I think the league programme should carry on as normal. It would encourage clubs to use British players.
     
  14. Sedgley Gold N Black

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    Why have England, Scotland and Wales already failed to qualify :eek:
     
  15. Mr Wolf

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    It ruins 3 years worth of games, the one before, during & after. Our other leagues can't continue as normal either as there would be promotion & relegation to sort out.
    75% of players at the last World Cup play in Europe. There is the ACON & the Winter Olympics to contend with also.

    The 2 hosting countries of the next World Cups have some serious human rights issues going on & they shouldn't have even been in the voting let alone hosting it. $$$$ it off & do a Europe wide thing like they are doing with the Euro's or give it Oz.
     
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    If this goes ahead I wonder how it will work? Will the Prem stop for the WC but the FL carry on as they have few/er players away? I hope the whole football world just doesn't shut down for the winter so that the WC can take place?
     
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    The whole thing stinks: The corrupt way the Qataris won the competition to host. The unsuitable climate --even in November/ December you're talking daytime temperatures in the 28-29C range. The disgusting exploitation of the workers building the stadia. The general social atmosphere -- homophobic, even moderate drinking by foreigners barely tolerated, and a lot of barely concealed unofficial support for what ISIS is doing in Iraq and Syria.

    If the European Federations had any balls, they'd give FIFA an ultimatum to change the venue and the timing now, or -- no dice. The competition without European participation wouldn't be worth a light.
     
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    I wouldn't expect the British government to be in the vanguard of any protests against this since our political class have too many vested interests via Qatar Holdings etc.
     
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    You can just see what will happen after this though.
    Once there has been a year without a festive programme in this country there will be calls for the winter break because it's happened once. Downward spiral.
     
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    A major farce all round and just stinks of corruption. Wasn't a bid from Australia turned down as not being viable due to the heat?
     
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    I agree with BSK above - if the European Leagues/Federations said they will boycott (as they provide the bulk of the players) then FIFA would have to think again surely?
     
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    Plenty of non-internationals.
     
  23. Erick1011

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    Should have been awarded to Australia. They have the stadiums, and winter season from June-August. A total farce if it's held in the winter months, effectively interrupting other leagues.
     
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    I hate the idea of a Winter world cup but....Phil Nevill has a point. Normally our players are burnt out after playing 50+ games in their season. English football known to be fast paced so extra knackered. England players will be fresh!
     
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    C'mon Wolves... Pop it in.

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    Doubt it... Our (Northern Hemisphere) Summer is their winter.

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    What a total farce. That corrupt, gentlemen's club FIFA fix the competition so that their paymasters in Russia and Qatar win their respective bids, then in the latter case, having run a supposedly fair competition based on a set of rules, they rip up perhaps the most fundamental rule of all after having earlier tried to argue that Qatar could run the competition during the middle of summer. World football is run by a group who act like it's a private club, and protected by Swiss law.

    None of the above is new, and today's so called decision, surprises no one. What annoys me today, is the total lack of backbone from UEFA. The one organisation with sufficient leverage to actually stop this farce, did sweet FA. What this says to me, is that Platini is probably cut from the same cloth as Blatter, and just waiting for his turn at running FIFA. What the European Leagues should do now, is tell Platini that they have no confidence in him, and force him out unless he stands up to FIFA. UEFA should then give FIFA an ultimatum, reopen the bidding for 2022 based on a summer championship, or they will withdraw, taking both the European players, the audience, and allowing European clubs to prevent all their players from taking part, whether European or not. UEFA could then begin organising a competing competition, which would likely be joined by North American countries, Australia, and a variety of others who are cheesed off with FIFA. That would undermine FIFA's sponsorship and major media rights, and force them to remove Blatter and reform.

    Do I think any of this will actually happen? No. And that is the most depressing thing about this whole sorry saga. World Cup Final on December 23rd? What a complete joke.
     
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    The World Cup has been a farce for a very long time but we still watch it regardless. And we will all watch the Russian and Qatari world cups, and we will all rightly moan at England's ineptitude
     
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    I must be the only one looking forward to putting my feet up and watching South Korea battle out a 0-0 draw with the Ivory Coast on a freezing December evening
     
  29. Sedgley Gold N Black

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    How can the bid stand, that was made and won on the premise of holding it in the summer, since that isn't happening the only thing that should happen is reopen the bidding process with Qatar now putting forward a winter world cup against the other previous bidders.
     
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    My interest has waned even the last one passed me by so i wouldnt be so sure about that if they keep messing about with it.I more interested in the European championships nowadays.
     
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    The other thing they have all overlooked is the lower leagues here and across Europe too where money is tight for many and if a) their seasons are unaffected having the world cup for a month of their season is no doubt going have an effect on gates and I doubt any lower league game would be on tv for that period too. B) if it does have the gap there are far more league games to fit in than the PL and top leagues due to having more clubs and the play offs too and you have higher bills as you will be operating fully for a month or so longer.
     
  32. FLEET WOLF

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    With 'Lord' Arry (as he will no doubt be by then) giving his views at half time and after the game.
     
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    Listening to the radio this morning, the current rules are that any player participating in a World Cup has 4 weeks off after the tournament - so effectively clubs will be without key players for 8 weeks (they expect this rule will be changed).

    As I understood it, the World Cup will be treated as though it were the ACN - with Premier League teams expected to continue their fixtures as normal during the tournament. This will cause massive problems for Chelsea, United and Man City etc as their key players are missing.

    Arguably they have plenty of time to prepare for this eventuality and, who knows, it could lead to one of the smaller clubs winning a Premier League title.
     
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    The World Cup and Olympics are both dominated by intrigue and corruption of the highest order and have been for decades. Local shops are forced to close down to allow the sponsorship transnationals to make as much money as they can - a cafe round the corner from my daughter's flat in East Stratford had to close down during the summer of 2012 because it was called the Olympic cafe. That + the exploitation and deaths of building workers + the roads closed to the general public so that corporate ticket-holders can speed their way past local traffic jams to venues + the hidden and not-s0-hidden bribes that bidders provide to Olympic and World Cup all stink of modern global capitalism and its disdain for the common good of human beings throughout the planet.

    The Qatar decision just takes all this to another level - we should boycott the whole thing, which is often of a lower standard than the Champions League, anyway.
     
  35. Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)

    Very Proud (AKA Still Proud) Prouder than a proud thing in Proudville

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    On a personal level I've made the decision to boycott 2022 - I won't be going.

    If anyone thinks Uefa are any different take a look at Euro 2020 and the Uefa Nations League in 2018/19 - that's bewildering so obviously designed as a money making thing. The Champions League for Nations.

    Here's some other thoughts:

    1. Football League only sent 14 players to the last World Cup so they can carry on
    2. Sky (or whoever has the rights) will have a gap to plug for two months
    3. FL could charge Sky a Premium
    4. Would anyone watch domestic Football when the WC is on - despite our hatred for Fifa we'll all watch it.
    5. What about the Pubs and clubs, supermarkets and anyone else who's sales of booze and fast food booms during a summer World Cup.
    6. Can't see as many replica shirts being sold in the winter as in the summer months
    7. Players - no real time to acclimatize, will under-perform can't see it will be a tournament of expansive high scoring football - will also either pick up mysterious injuries in October or come back knackered/injury.
    8. The Premiership could just continue, would be a more even and balanced league that year - we could stand a chance of winning it as long as we could do without Price and Iorfa for the two months.
     
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    The leagues can't continue, for a start some clubs would lose anything from 5 players upwards with some of the big Euro clubs about 15 players.

    Promotion & relegation need to be settled, you can't have some leagues finishing in May then others in July, then when do they start & finish the following season?

    Just boycott the whole thing or send an under 23 squad.
     
  38. FLEET WOLF

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    Perhaps consideration will have to be given to abandoning the League Cup for a year, so that more Premier and Champ games can be played in the early part of the season, or something like that?
     
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    I have 2 trains of thought over this.

    The first is very simple. European clubs boycott it in favour of a European cup (different from the Euros)... That will teach FIFA to stop $$$$ing with football.

    Second is let's go with it and use the intervening years to migrate football away from a winter sport into a summer one!
    Part of the reason i think our standard of player is $$$$ in comparison to other European nations is climate and facilities. Playing on a ploughed pitch covered in dog$$$$ and manhole covers is bad enough. Throw, sleet, snow, horizontal rain and flooding into the mix and its no wonder we're lightyears behind.

    The British summer is not known for its blistering heat enough to warrant abandoning games. The pitches would be better, the season could be extended. you wouldn't have the perpetual bleating about a winter break. Non-league games would be easier to facilitate (not all grounds have amazing facilities)
     
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    I'll personally not be watching either the Qatari or Russian World Cups shocking human rights issues in both & poor safety standards (Over 900 migrant workers have been killed already in Qatar building the stadia & infrastructure)

    I won't be giving Sky BT or Virgin any money towards subsidising the greed league when games have to be rescheduled.

    Its about time some of the football associations across the world had the balls to stand up to both uefa & fifa - stop all these pointless friendlies, blatant corruption & rescheduling - In England alone, we'd have to reschedule over 130 games just to accomodate possibly 3 preparation games & 3 actual games in the competition proper :D
     

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