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Wolves v Blackpool post match discussion thread

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by Mutchy, Nov 22, 2008.

  1. Mutchy

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  2. northnorfolkwolf

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    Sounded like routine victory - but one we may have screwed up in season's past.
    Just hope RS, MM and CI all ok for Tuesday and MK avoided a booking!
     
  3. Bahama Wolf

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    Another good win..Collins Ward Foley and Edwards all good games by the sound of it. Ikeme had nothing to deal with, big Chris proving to be the buy of the season. Would be interested to read of David Jones performance, sounds like he had one of his best games today. Bit worried about SEB's form..although to be fair first real period of a dip since coming here, hope he can snap out of it. Hope injuries arent too bad..
     
  4. Atlas 1951

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    Was expecting a comfortable victory until I heard that Mancienne was out. Great for Collins to be part of a defensive shut-out. Will be very interested to see how Shakell did.

    Iwelumo: what can you say?
     
  5. Powelly

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    Good 3 points, but the game should have been well over as a contest within the first half an hour.. Last season and in the past e would have let Blackpool get back into it when they had their 15 minute spell just after HT..

    Dave Edwards impressed massively today IMO, him and Jones works well as a partnership with the added bonus that Edwards likes to break forward as often as possible.

    Biggest bonus of today is Reading losing. IF we can take 3 or more points in the next 2 ( for me a win over Sheff U is more important than against Blues) then we are in with a massive chance of creating a gap that is too big to catch, especially given that there is only 10 points beteen 4th place and 18th and all those teams are swapping around every week....
     
  6. Wolv3nsam

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    Great win and I thought we played really well, David Edwards was personally my MOTM despite Big Chris' two goals.

    I've no idea what was wrong with Stearman (though he was subject to a pretty meaty challenge from Kabba in the first half) and Chris was feeling his knee before he went off but seemed to be running fine in the warm down, so I imagine his substitution was just a pre-caution. SEB wasn't injured but he really was not at the races today, looked a bit leggy.

    I still stand by the belief that Andy D'Urso is the $$$$iest ref it has ever been my misfortune to witness.
     
  7. Wolfman jack

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    Ok sort of victory today - Blackpool should have scored at some time but we missed 2 or 3 really good chances, if not more. Largely solid at the back but a couple of moments of madness. Kites well off his game as was SEB. So with (arguably) 4 of our best players absent or off form, the win was gratifying. D Edwards had a good game as did Jones and Gray. Stearman was hobbling after half time and came out on his own after the rest of the team so lets hope his injury isn't too bad. At least he jogged off to be replaced.
    I continue to be amazed by ward s. He hardly ever does ANYTHING wrong and I have to pinch myself. He is a real find at LB and I hope he can keep playing as well as this for the rest of the season. What the hell - I'll give him MOTM.
    Crowd was small and fairly quiet today - what do we have to do to get 25,00 +??
    Must go - my humble pie is going cold.
     
  8. NathanP100

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    Stearman went down holding his foot although I didn't see any particularly dangerous challenge at the time, lets hope its not a metatarsal.

    Thought Edwards was lively in the first half when we dominated but was less involved in the second. Jones looked good and made a few decent bursts forward himself. Kightly wasn't up to speed today and looked a bit tired. Ebanks-Blake was another tired one who passed a couple of times when i thought he should have shot. Keogh looked lively when he came on but Vokes didn't get much of an opportunity to get involved
     
  9. Del Woppio

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    Well, got to be chuffed with that. Other than a 10 minute spell in the second half, we were in total control. We couldm and perhaps should, have come in 3 goals to the good at half time. Edwards missed a sitter, we hit the bar, and the keeper made a blinding save from Iwelumo.

    That said, Blackpool really should have equalised in the opening throes of the second half - but again, SEB, Gray, Edwards all missed very good second half chances. All in all though, a very good and professional performance with several plusses.

    Ikeme - Claimed a couple of balls well, and one smart save in the second half. 7
    Foley - I'm constantly amazed by how good this boy is. Every week, he excels. He needs a new, long and lucrative contract, because I want him here for life. 8
    Ward - Only once did his positioning let him down. Some very good tackling, worked his nuts off on the overlap, every time. A couple of cracking balls. Super. 8
    Stearman - More no nonsense than the classy centre half we've seen, but kept them at bay before jogging off injured 7
    Collins - absoultely imperious at the back. WOn everything in the air, some great blocks, and very composed in possession 8
    Kites - Positionally appaling. Goes inside when we have the ball on the right, denying Foley an option, then stays wide when we have the ball on the left. Really not at the races, perhaps tired from his u21 duty. His assist bumps him up to a 6
    Gray - Did very well, some good delivery, used the ball well and tracked back well. 7
    Edwards - Some wayward shooting from range, but a very good, energetic display. Better on the ball than previously, and some good defensive work. All action, certainly! 8
    Jones - Very rarely wastes possession, and his delivery was again excellent. A little more dynamism than we've seen from him too. 7.5
    SEB - Put the work in, but wasn't coming off for him today. One shot out for a throw in, and a one on one where he dallied allowing Edwards to make a superb block. 6
    Iwelumo - Ignoring his goals he would have got an eight. A superb frontman display again, holds the ball up andlays it off intelligently. Two very neat finishes and excellent captaincy make him my MOM with a 9.

    Keogh - Not a winger, but as we saw today, is a more than capable forward for this division. Excellent movement, some wonderful touches. Took a man on a few times, and only once passed up the opportunity to shoot. Much better.
    Vokes - Some excellent flicks, and good runs that weren't seen, but missed a sitter. Will be a good striker, though.
    Shackell - Decent, but no more.

    Really pleased, and the league table looks frighteningly good. I'm not whispering it any more. 2 or more points from the next two games and we're promoted. 4/6, and we're Champions.
     
  10. Kenny-11

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    before we scored, Stearman missed a sitter (or 2) and the keeper made a blinding save from Stearman.

    I can't remember the Edwards or Iwelumo ones though.....
     
  11. Del Woppio

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    Was it Stearman with the header that went over? It's a long way for me to see!
     
  12. NathanP100

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    yeah it was right in front of me
     
  13. Kenny-11

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    Yes, header at the far post and he tried to float it to the far post.
    He also should have scored from a Jones free kick but didn't connect with the ball properly
     
  14. jackfieldwolf

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    Good workmanlike performance today. Agree that we should have been out of sight at half time. Blackpool were a tough nut to crack last season at home, and today, despite passing it around in good spells and a 15 minute period after half time when their shooting boots were left in the tower ballroom, Wolves were comfortable winners.

    I like most Wolves fans were alarmed to see the impressive Mancienne's absence replaced by the forboding presence of Collins.

    Yet I thought Colllins aquitted himself well. I watched him closely today, and his overall game was creditable. He was guilty of a woeful header straight into the path of an onrushing Blackpool striker in the first half, but by and large his game is only negated by his distribution which at best is workman like and favours the easy pass, and does have a tendancy to just whack it aimlessly under pressure. But Collins is a good back up when needed.

    Edwards and Jones put in a 'good shift' and Gray did a stirling job on the left in place of Carlos.

    Kightlly did have a quiet game by his standard, but that is largely due to tight marking, and Wolves forward thrusts mainly chanelled through Ward and Gray, who both interchanged seemlessly.

    Good to see Ward being the last Woves player off the pitch applauding the fans on a 'lap of honour'

    Ikeme is increasingly looking a class act commanding his area well. Not afraid to come and collect crosses on the edge of the area, and a supurb save early in the second half palming a rasping shot away for a corner.

    Don't agree with earlier assessments of SEB's performance. I thought he worked his socks offf and was a constant menace. His link up play with Iwelumu is supurb.

    A couple of good cameo's from Vokes and Koegh. Both should have scored with better composure.

    Crowd were fairly quiet today but came to life after the 2nd goal cushion.

    Mick cut a comical figure waving his crutches manically when decisions went against us.

    One other observation concerns the treatment of Iwelumu by referee's? He just doesn't seem to get a break. Any fifty fifty ball that involves physical contact invariably resaults in a free kick against him. I found myself loooking towards the 'lino' when he scored just to see if he had committed some mysterious misdameanor.

    Overalll a good result, and moving inexorably in the right direction.
     
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  15. rincewind

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    As others have said generally comfortable except for about 15 minutes after half time (again! what do they drink at half time, horlicks?). Hope none of the players taken off were serious. Blackpool were not the worst side we've seen this year and did create a few chances/scrambles in the 2nd half. Most gratifying that without Mancienne, Jarvis, Henry and Elokobi and with SEB and Kites off form we were still clearly a class above a useful championship side.
     
  16. saturday boy

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    David Edwards gave us a completely different shape today, rather than being over reliant on getting the ball out wide he was constantly finding space going forward through the middle. Not sure he is what is required against Sheffield Utd on Tuesday where we may need to be more compact in the middle but this was definitely his best performance in a gold shirt and there is a really good player in there.

    Chris got the wrong end of the referee's decisions again today - seems it is fair game for two defenders to sandwich him to prevent any reasonable challenge for the ball but as soon as he comes within a yard of an opponent its a foul. Still, he clearly frightens the hell out of every team he faces.

    We have had quite a few of these types of performances this year - we're just a little bit better than most teams even when we're not firing on all cylinders and that is the mark of a good team. Grayson summed it up, Blackpool showed too much respect - they have to worry about Kightly, double mark him, Iwelumo needs to defenders to try and keep him quiet, SEB can get in the game out of nowhere and needs constant watching and today David Edwards was almost unplayable he was everywhere. When you have 4 or 5 players posing a constant threat you can afford to have 1 or 2 in the team slightly below par because others step up to the plate,

    It's a four horse race now, I can't see anyone below Sheffield United mounting a challenge, and we've got a 10 point head start. Think most of would think that a reasonable situation to be in.
     
  17. northnorfolkwolf

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    Strange that when you're winning the general thrust of all the posts is much the same - even down to the performances of individual players - eg comments on SEB and MK.
    Last season threads ran on for pages with opinions divided.
    This site is getting very boring!!!!!!!!
     
  18. The Weasel

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    Can't really add much to what's been said above as I agree with most of the comments made. Ward, Edwards, Iwelumo and Foley all outstanding today but the others all contributed well and only SEB and Kights were below par by their own high standards.

    Thought I'd add this injury update from the Wolves site though:

    Wolves will be back in tomorrow to start preparations for Tuesday's tough trip to Sheffield United.

    The likes of Chris - who came off as a precaution due to his tight hamstring - and Stears, forced out with a kick on his ankle - will be assessed then.

    At the same time Wolves will wait on the condition of Michael Mancienne, who missed out today through illness.

    "Stears got a kick on his ankle which we'll look at tomorrow and Chris should be ok," Mick added.

    "Michael was poorly when he came in to training yesterday, shivery and achey, and so we just sent him home.
     
  19. My first game of this season...

    Pleasing display - we could/should have been out of sight first half...

    For me Ikeme had very little to do but did it well, Stearman was great until injured - Foley and Ward were solid - even Collins did well and won most things in the air...

    Gray was steady, Kightly came into the game more in the second half Jones was a rock in midfield but for me Edwards was outstanding

    Big Chris won everything scored 2 good goals and led the team - what a signing he has turned out to be... SEB is not getting any breaks but worked hard...

    Shackell covered well for Stears and did not look out of place, Keogh played well when he came on but should have squared it instead of shooting at one point - Vokes tried hard - had a decent chance late on...

    All in all good performance and great 3 points - big week this week playing 2 tough teams... WELL DONE EVERYONE AT WWFC
     
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    I said a few weeks ago seb dont look fit, the guy is 1 of the best strikers in the division but last few weeks he reminds me of nathen blake..looks lazy.

    Im just delighted we are winning most weeks and have a great lead, mick will irion out the bad bits to are side in january.
     
  21. Cosmo Kramer

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    mom - Edwards

    needs and deserves a run in the team

    will only get better and will deliver 10 goals
     
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    tbh i think he is a tad overweight - at Ipswich by half time his shirt was soaked compared to the rest of the team. you look at pictures when he was at Man Ure he has certainly "filled out"
     
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    If anyone spent the game just watching SEB they would see that he is anything but lazy, there is no way that he could do what he does if he was overweight and unfit.

    When you look at pictures of when he was at Manchester United he was a teenager.
     
  24. Ulster Wolf

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    Just home from the game,... just cant believe the unity of this team, when we play pretty, its just superb. When we are forced to reshuffle and have to make changes combined with some key players appearing not to be 100%, the 'team' finds a way to perform. We find a way to win. Determination, combined with strikers who can tuck chances away. Its so enjoyable to visit the Mol, and watch our team play like a home team, dictating the game. Sometimes i think we only step it up a gear when we really have to. Always good to have a shutout too, giving my MOTM to the team.
    Just thought id see less empty seats considering the way we are playing, and where we are sitting in the league. It hasn't been that often over the last few years where when going to watch us at home (or away) you almost expect a win!

    Great stuff!

    Come on you Wolves!
     
  25. Atlas 1951

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    Correct, and a short, thin centre-forward wouldn't get very far in any senior division.

    If you're not especially tall, you need a low centre of gravity.
     
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    And SEB's centre of gravity is just below his waist and just above his thighs....
     
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    Great stuff marrs.
     
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    Nobody has mentioned that Chris had also hit the crossbar in the 8th minute.
     
  30. reanswolf

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    We should be getting better gates but i think the price increases this year for pay on the gate, altho not horrendous & combined with the recent financial gloom and doom, simply put yet another bracket of people out of the picture.
     
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    I was very impressed with their left winger Adam Hammill who gave Foley a bit of a tough time yesterday - plenty of skill and pace. He's on loan from Liverpool at the moment having signed a new contract there in the summer but I can't see him pushing for a first team place when you take in to consideration that not even Pennant is getting into the match day squads. Worth a punt? I believe he is only 19 or 20 years old.
     
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    We were dominant yesterday. Should've been out of sight by half time and either of Iwelumo or Stearman could've been walking away with the match ball. Iwelumo was unlucky when hitting the bar, Stearman missed a couple of excellent chances, one an absolute sitter, as well as forcing a great save. But overall we just had far, far too much for them. I thought it may have been a bit of a banana skin for us but we were just too powerful, too athletic, too good on the day. We didn't hit the heights we can in terms of scintillating football but we were just, almost mechanical. We kept winning the ball and then putting them under pressure with good, attacking football, and were always going to get at least one or two goals. I thought the two central midfielders were outstanding, Edwards will retain his starting place for Tuesday in my opinion but I think he'll be shifted out to the wing. And Iwelumo must be on the referee's hate list. There has to be a law somewhere that says being bigger than a defender is a foul.

    We looked a class act yesterday, the next two games are big for us, but they are more 'make or break' for the two teams we're playing, and I wouldn't be surprised if we picked up maximum points from them.
     
  33. Broseleywolf

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    Sorry to go slightly off topic, but I agree with you Akaman about Iwelumo's treatment from referees. I'm beginning to wonder if refs have been told to target him, as it reminds me of Crouch's treatment in the World Cup. After Poll had retired, he came out and said that all the refs had a meeting before the competition had started and were told to clamp down on him. I'm wondering if something similar has happened here.
     
  34. Deutsch Wolf

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    Cort used to get the same treatment too. Refs don't understand that Iwelumo/Cort/Crouch don't need to jump to win a ball and just assume it's a foul. Idiots.

    Anyway, comfortable yesterday and David Jones was my man of the match. I keep saying this, getting rid of Olofinjana and replacing him with Jones (plus £2m) was both superb business and THE major difference between this season and last.
     
  35. Lupo Italiano

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    15 points clear of 7th too.

    My mate asked me whereabouts in the table Blackpool were yesterday. I said about mid-table but admitted that I only look at the very top now to see how far ahead we are of our rivals. Right now I see little point in looking below 7th!

    Everyone did well yesterday but there were several who had very good games too.

    Stearman is very eager going forward as well as his fine defending and could have had a hat-trick of headers in the first half.

    David Edwards was my man of the match. A different sort of player to Karl Henry, I felt he offered something different for us yesterday on the attack and he is so unlucky not to have a regular starting spot in the side as he is a great player. In previous seasons he would have been a shoe-in every game.

    Ikeme is growing with every match. He has lost the nervyness and errors of his early displays and now exudes confidence.

    I thought SEB and Iwelumo were superb again. Big Chris is such an intelligent forward and his first goal was outstanding. The way he brought the ball down before rocketing it into the net was brilliant.

    This season is shaping up so nicely and virtually every statistic of the side makes pleasurable reading, not least the position at the top 6 points clear of Blooze and 10 ahead of Reading and the fact that 3 of our players feature in the top scorers list - most seasons we struggle to see a Wolves player in there.

    We now have 2 goalscoring heroes to enjoy let alone 1.

    Mo Camara's attempt on goal... :D

    Mick still has got only one leg... :D
     
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    I'm going to top you here Deutch
    Getting rid of Olo, replacing him with Jones AND adding Large Chris(+ 1.4M)
     
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    The SEB/CI partnership is another major factor in our fine run this season.

    From the outset they have clicked as a partnership and the 23 goals they have scored between them so far cannot be underestimated.

    Many times in recent years we have seen copious chances created by a Wolves side let down in the penalty area when there is no-one in the right place/sharp enough to finish the chances off.

    These 2 are always in the box looking for their chances and are natural finishers.

    They are both capable of scoring spectacular goals too.

    They are without doubt the most exciting front pairing we have seen for a few years.

    SEB is also the first many to wear Bully's no.9 shirt and do it full justice.
     
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    It's a fair point, but then SEB and Keogh got 20 in 20 between them at the back end of last season. Just having a settled strike partnership (when it's two players that are actually fit for purpose rather than jokers like Eastwood and Elliott) really helps.
     
  39. Lupo Italiano

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    Mick is also building a fine squad.

    He has immense players in each area of the pitch.

    Besides 3 keepers who could walk into any side in this division (and quite a few in the Prem) we also have the best defence we have had for a long time.

    Stearman is an outstanding player, a footballing defender rather than a clogger. To pair him up with Mancienne is the stuff of dreams. The back-ups also perform admirably when called upon.

    Foley at full back too - an outstanding player.

    The midfield with David Jones and Karl Henry and also Dave Edwards - very unfortunate not to command a starting place each week.

    Not to mention Kightly on the wing.

    We are 10 points clear of 3rd place which is no fluke. Achieved despite having some big misses for parts of the season through injuries and suspensions - Hennessey, Stearman, Mancienne, Elokobi, Kightly, Henry, Jarvis, SEB and Iwelumo in particular have all missed games at various stages yet still we're on top.

    When we look at the squad of players we now have compared to the post-Hoddle period we can only give credit for the job Mick has done so far.
     

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