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Wolves fans views needed

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by StudentD, Mar 3, 2015.

  1. StudentD

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    Hi everyone,
    I'm a final year student in the research stage of my dissertation project. The project is based around the under-representation of ethnic minorities in football (particularly in the stands), my research will mostly be carried out by using the views of football fans of all ethnicity and will be collected via online survey, which can be found here: https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/genfan

    This is part of the wider title of my dissertation ‘Exploring the under-representation of British Asians in English football: Geographies of Identity, Inclusion and Exclusion.

    If you could possibly spare 10 minutes of your time to do the survey it will be really useful and as the introduction page for the survey states, everything is anonymous, feel free to agree or disagree with any statements made in the survey, as long as you are providing your honest opinion
    Many Thanks,
    Dylan
     
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    British Asians are well represented at Wolves matches. We even have one on the pitch.
     
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    I'd say they are under represented in the stands though when you compare to the local community.

    However, I think the local community are under represented in the stands compared to years ago so you could put it down to that.

    I don't think racisim is the main factor why ethnic minorities are under represented at football if I'm honest. I put it down to various other factors, we at Wolves and football as a whole has come a long way regards racism but its always worth remembering its still there and sadly will always exist in some form, as with society as a whole.
     
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    Just completed it mate. Good luck with your dissertation.

    I'd agree Ultra. I mean as a "British Asian" myself I just don't see that many fellow "British Asian" supporters attending games any more (I know there's Punjabi Wolves). I know quite a few who are Wolves fans but for one reason or the other can't attend matches as much as before, probably due to prices (not just for tickets) but for the entire day itself; it's a lot to fork out.

    Also I know quite a few of my friends and others who love football and are from Wolverhampton but all support the "bigger" teams but still retain a soft spot for Wolves but of course I don't expect that to translate into buying/going to games.

    A lot of ethnic minorities, at least in my opinion, won't come to games because it's simply not something that's traditional within our culture. Unless there parents/family members have an interest and take them to games from an early age (thankfully this was the case for me) I think it's tough for people, of any background, to probably get into going to games.
     
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    The lads I went to school with seemed to prefer cricket for the most part. The school offered regular outings to Edgbaston in the summer months and they filled at least one or two coaches every time.
     
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    I remember we had that as an option but rarely was that taken up at school to be honest, which even surprised me.

    To be honest I can't stand the sport but a lot of my older cousins/uncles do enjoy it so it would have an influence I suppose.
     
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    There was a programme on about race a few years ago.
    They made a white chap black and sent him to another stand at Leicester.
    He was a season ticket holder.
    This is a city where 40% are non white.
    There he was the only black face in the whole stand, it was a real eye opener for him, and he stated he felt very uncomfortable the whole match.
    I was amazed as Leicester, you would have thought would go out to the local community and try and promote Leicester City. But perhaps they do I don't know.

    I don't think it's as bad at Wolves, but it's still surprising that we don't see that many non white faces. I would expect out of 25,000 roughly a few thousand but it's nowhere near that, probably more like 100.
    I don't know what the answer is, as Wolves is probably as cosmopolitan as you can get for a City.
    Maybe start to involve ethnic communities at school, but I'm pretty sure Wolves do that anyway, so I guess it's just one of those things that seems to be the case wherever you are, apart from say Arsenal.
    It's strange though as Wolves does have a history of playing black players.

    But as I said in my previous posts, it probably don't help when 2000 Wolves sing a racist song as was the case at Luton a few years ago. Black or Asian people aren't going to be too keen to hear that sort of thing are they really?
     
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    We were made to play cricket during the summer months. I hated it. It's such a dull, pedestrian sport.
     
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    This is such a difficult one.

    Traditionally football was a working class sport but attended by an element who would be actively racist.

    Times have changed but I guess attitudes prevail. I don't think the proportion of non-white Wolves fans has drastically increased despite Wolverhampton overall being a fairly well intergrated place to live.

    I guess the reality of football is that half the population are priced out of football, so although ethnic minorities have bettered themselves over the decades, they will disproportionately still be priced out.

    Quite how you encourage those supporters to associate with their local club rather than glory hunting the big boys I don't know.

    I think it is great that Punjabi Wolves are so prominant. Long may that continue.
     
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    20 idiots on the side nearest to the main stand perhaps. It's a bit much to tar the other 1980 Wolves fans in the Oak Road that day with that sort of brush.
     
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    I think it was more than that to be honest but agree was not everyone by any stretch (think we actually had less than 2000 tickets).

    It is worth remembering though for those that like to blame anything negative on fans that just come for the big games, that Luton never mad egeneral (or even members) sale. It sold out to AST and STH's only.

    An isolated incident the like thankfully doesn't happen often but 1 is 1 too many!
     
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    people are who they are, if each one of us respects the other there wouldn't be race issues.
     
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    I think a lot of support is passed on through your parents, chances are a lot of ethnic parents won't have been that interested in football say in the 70's, 80's so their children who go grow up playing & watching it tend to pick the bigger premiership teams to support.

    Would be interesting to look at the diversity % of regular Molineux attendees compared to the local area.
     
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    Thanks for that perspective Golden Wolf, it helps us to understand a little more how cultural differences may influence matchday attendance.

    There's a good gathering of British Asians at the back of the SB close to where I'm seated. Good folk, and good banter. :smile:
     
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    I just think that 'culturally' many forms of entertainment don't appeal to ethnic minorities. Only people from such minorities could say whether they would feel uncomfortable because of this.

    Did anyone see the Davis Cup at the weekend; 99.9% white audience at GB v USA?
    You rarely if ever see a black or brown face at the theatre.
    Last Night of the Proms.
    Walking/Rambling (as in long hikes in the countryside)
    The BAFTAs was almost devoid of anyone who wasn't Caucasian etc

    I think there are many forms of leisure activity that have a lot to do in promoting themselves to a wider audience. Football needs to do more but it isn't as bad as some of the examples I cite above.
     
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