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Wolves 1 - 2 Reading (FT) Verdict

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  1. Erick1011

    Erick1011 MolMix Poster of the Season 2012-2013

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    Seems silly to me to drop Iorfa, who has been in terrific form. Golbourne had just gotten back last game, and if we drop him one game, and put him on the next, he can't get any match sharpness.

    Anyway, hopefully this will put the notion of Evans being better than Price to bed. I'm glad Afobe's scored his second, but we really got to start both of our strikers.

    On to the next game, and those saying our promotion hopes are over... The season's not over. It's dumb making such predictions.
     
  2. Ewok vs Wolf

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    Not the first time he's changed a winning team for no reason.
    I think this result has been coming at home.
     
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    Wolves 1 - 2 Reading (FT) Verdict

    Management inept.
     
  4. sc91

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    Poor poor poor. But we are mid table for the next few years so yay!
     
  5. CTA91

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    Might be squad rotation with Iorfa for the next week. Golbourne isn't match fit, that foots not right.
    Afobe would get more if the midfield was more forward, instead of playing possession so much.
    May still have a few surprises before the end but there are better teams above us unfortunately
     
  6. JOSWolf

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    If Golbourne isn't fit then why the hell was he on the bench?
     
  7. CTA91

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    I'm guessing it was a small reoccurrence. Don't think he wanted to risk him from the start.
    Personally wouldn't risk it, cause he looks like one of our best when he is in.
     
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    Turgid, one paced, pap.
     
  9. JOSWolf

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    Then why even bother with him on the bench when you have another two defenders there?
    Baffling to me.
     
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    We did have a shortage of defenders on the bench...
     
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    I agree, was surprised to see him there at all. Jacketts just said players being dropped nothing to do with squad rotation, so even more baffled. Tweaking for the sake of it.
     
  12. bod101

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    Weird team selection. Poor play for the most part. Doherty and Evans back on the bench please. Hause played ok . I need to see their first goal again as I think the keeper May have done better but made up for it with a top drawer save in the second half. Kmac when he pushed up and played with more tempo the whole team looked better but it was only for a short period. Afobe seemed to give up once dicko came on prior to that he was decent and a good goal.

    Main problem for me though is our style of play we are still far too static attacking and defending, we don't press the opposition and are sooooooo slow at moving the ball. Players are passing a ball then stopping rather than moving into space to receive the ball back. We need to get the high tempo back, i'm sick of saying the same thing.
     
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    :d :d
     
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    Woeful. The balance was all wrong again, and at 4-4-2 we were even worse. Why can we not get this midfield balance right??? And will we ever learn that Edwards in a 2 man midfield doesn't work :confused:
     
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    Clearly Kenny isn't learning.
     
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    Just woken up in NZ to this shocking result. Unbelievable selection. Dicko, Iorfa and Price all dropped??! FFS stop your bloody tinkering!! Whenever the guy buys players he ruins the shape of the team to accommodate them
     
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    The poorest home performance of the season. Wrong team, wrong substitutions, no plan b. Or even a slight variation of plan a.

    Price dropped. Evans in. Unbeaten run over.

    Where were all these defence splitting passes the Evans apologists kept telling us about?? I'd rather have $$$$ing O'Hara and I'm not even joking. Wasn't good enough in L1.

    11th beckons.
     
  18. Mark Rankines Lovechild

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    We look like a team that doesn't know its best formation or players.

    Keeper looked rusty, beaten at the near post is never good.

    Hause, as I have said before isn't a great header of the ball, the ball for the first goal was misjudged and I thought it was going over his head, he got his head to it but directed it right into the Reading midfielders path. golbourne wouldn't have made that mistake.

    Batth and Stearman were both ok

    Doherty was ok

    Evans experiment didn't work, but he was no better or worse than Price.

    KMac created little, huffed and puffed.

    Sako had 2, sometimes 3 men on him particularly second half and we don't have the players to take advantage of the space.

    RVLP - one good cross for the goal. Other than that lightweight, wasteful, and generally $$$$ing annoying. That said, who else created anything?

    Edwards - poor today and looked like a rabbit in the headlights when asked to play centre mid

    Afobe, well taken goal and worked hard, must wonder why he got better service at MK Dons?

    Price, shored up midfield.

    Henry couple of decent runs and a couple of times lost the ball in ridiculous positions.

    Dicko - meh.

    We look mid table, The same as Reading. But what concerns me is that in the cold light of day we created nothing again at home for the second game in succession.

    Ref was fussy about the minor, missed the obvious and looked out of his depth.
     
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    Jackett messed it all up.
     
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    I genuinely believe I would offer more than Diamond Dave in a 442 even at 34.
     
  21. Mark Rankines Lovechild

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    Took a knock before the game and deemed just fit enough to make the bench apparently...bad luck I suppose.
     
  22. Tring Wolf

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    For those who were there, how did Afobe do? Comms made it sound like he had a decent game, especially given the lack of service from midfield.

    Could he and Dicko play together as a pair?
     
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    He did ok when he had the ball which wasn't often.
     
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    The balance in midfield can never be right/addressed until we get a defence that can defend whilst playing 4-4-2. Unfortunately so limited is our defence that when we have less than 2 sitting players in the normal Price/McDonald mould we can't keep clean sheets. The balance is getting a defence that allows the midfield to push fwd in a 4-4-2 we don't have that. That said surely didn't Kenny say himself that Edwards could not play in a 2 man centre mid earlier in the season so his 1st substitution is very strange and worrying cos that is exactly what he did and even before that it was clear Edwards was having a stinker.
     
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    Afobe was the pick today, deceptively quick feet and a very good touch, I like him. I am sure they can play as a pair, the problem is Sako is marked out of the game, RVLP's delivery is 1 good delivery in 15 (if he doesn't delay the cross) and none of our CM's have the guile to unlock the defence.

    We are so slow in tempo, don't move into space and don't support each other. Towards the end of the game Sako won the ball, had three players on him and held out for 20 seconds before losing possession, not. One Wolves player moved into a space so he could lay the ball off to them.

    Evans worries me, I think he plays for himself before the team, he just seems so wrapped up in what he is doing he has no awareness of what's going on around him, hence he gets caught in possession and, laughably, twice challenged KMac for headers without a Reading player being near...its bizzarre.
     
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  26. A disjointed mess against a low quality side that didn't really need that much in their locker to do us. Entertaining game that was very much open, but it really encapsulates everything that is wrong in that team.

    Our play in the final third is probably the worst I can remember since Hoddle but we don't do even do any thoughtful triangles. It is clueless beyond belief but I don't think KJ is anywhere near nailing down a good eleven. Can't pass, can't move as a unit and we seem only capable of throwing in aimless crosses to nothing. Forget set pieces and forget any quality, we really base our play on percentages its just that our percentages are way higher than any club that plays effective percentage football. We attack corners like a Sunday pub side.

    KJ - Find a 4-4-2 and stick to it.


    MoM - Afobe. Good performance from the lad, looked for the ball and moved well. Front line when defending corners and set pieces.
     
  27. reanswolf

    reanswolf MolMix's Manchester United Cheerleader-in-Chief

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    We dont have any combination of central midfielders capable of dominating the game, so therefore we are also unable to play two up front successfully.

    Been obvious all season. We will continue smash and grab wins, especially away, but we this is as good as it will get.
     
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    Cheers NWW and MRL.

    I think Afobe has all the tools to be excellent if given the right service.
     
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    One good cross today and he finished it, that's all you can ask.
     
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    I thought the failure to replace Sako was the reason we struggled to break down Blackpool and Charlton? It appears not.
     
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    Rubbish result today and I really don't know why we or any other side plays one recognised striker.

    It's so negative and always makes it hard to get back in the game if the opposition take the lead.

    Surely Dicko and Afobe together would be a handful at this level.
     
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    Hector played very well for them. Looks a good young CB.
     
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    exactly what we said , would love him and McCleary
     
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    You're right they would terrorise defences problem is KJ does not trust defence enough to go out and out attack stats are this season when we don't have 2 defensive minded midfielders in front of back 4 we concede way to easily.
     
  35. WS10Wolf

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    That was awful. Absolutely awful. Play-Offs? I don't think so.

    The start of the game was dreadful, 1-0 down after what, 10 seconds? Some inept defending allowing Pogrebynak clean through to score. Hause, Batth and Stearman should all have done more to prevent the goal, and Kuszczak should really have saved it. With early goals you can always bat it away as "oh, we got caught cold", but in reality it was such a soft goal to give away, first minute or not.

    After that there was a slight revival, we had much more of the ball, but as with recent weeks, created very little. Sako and Van La Parra got into some decent positions but couldn't find that crucial pass. Arguably our only real spell of pressure produced the goal. A header was cleared off the line, we managed to recycle possession, and Van La Parra produced a delightful cross which was nodded in superbly by Afobe. There was a real opportunity to capitalise and push on, but we didn't take it. An inept refereeing performance didn't help, it turned the first half into a real stop start affair, but neither side could put anything together, and it petered out into half time at 1-1.

    Second half was very dull, I think, and although it opened up slightly, we didn't produce anywhere near enough quality on the ball. Kenny's substitutions seemed to backfire too, the decision to switch to 4-4-2 was a poor one, as it opened us up to the counter attack. Eventually we did concede, leaving too many players up and getting caught, Williams had far too much time to pick his spot, though he nearly missed, the ball finding its way in off the post. Again, I'd question Kuszczak, yes the shot was in the corner but he seemed miles away from it.

    After that we huffed and puffed, but in terms of blowing the house down, I'm afraid we couldn't even rattle the foundations of a bang average Reading defence. There were, in isolation, some nice moments of build up play, but too often the final pass, if it came, was poor. Reading had a couple of good chances on the break but couldn't finish. The opposition, over the course of the second half, managed to perfect the art of time wasting, to the point where four additional minutes was an insult. No wonder people moan about ticket prices, when you're not just charged £20+ to watch 90 minutes, but £20+ to watch about 65 minutes of football and 25 minutes of the opposition tying their laces when they've got a throw in.

    I thought the referee was clueless, never seen a referee get so many basic things wrong. At least Mike Jones only messed up the big decisions, this guy barely got a thing right all game.

    Ratings:

    Kuszczak- 3. Thought as debuts go, that was at the lower end of the scale. Think he could have done better for both goals, and his kicking was woeful. Made a couple of decent saves, but I already miss Ikeme.

    Doherty- 4. Strange decision to drop/rest/rotate Iorfa, didn't see anything today from Doherty that we wouldn't have got from Iorfa, to be quite honest. Got forward into some decent positions but ended up crowded out.

    Stearman- 5. Thought he and Batth should have sorted out the first goal between them, and once he was booked for an innocuous challenge on halfway, he didn't get tight enough to Pogrebnyak.

    Batth- 5. Like Stearman, should have sorted out the first goal, did well under pressure on occasions but at times gave too much space to the front men.

    Hause- 4. I think one day he'll be a fine centre half, not sure left back is really his position though. The first goal came as a result of a really poor header from him, his first contribution of the game, and there were other occasions where he seemed very dopey, allowing players to run off him.

    Evans- 4. Ratted around a bit at times, didn't really influence the game enough though, tried to spread play, to his credit, but none of his more ambitious passes came off. I'm assuming, rightly or wrongly, that Evans was selected over Price for his creativity. If so, it was a poor decision.

    McDonald- 3. Absolutely woeful, his worst performance in a Wolves shirt. By a mile. Slow, lazy, sloppy. Last season in League One, he was like a Rolls Royce, dominating the Reliant Robins of Swindon, Stevenage, Walsall, Crawley. There are a few Ferraris in the Championship though, and McDonald's been shown up badly at times, and today was perhaps the worst example.

    Van La Parra- 4. Peach of a cross for the goal, but not much else. If he was a lady in Victorian London, he would be a nailed on victim of Jack the Ripper, such is his penchant for running into trouble down blind alleys.

    Edwards- 4. Second game in a row where he was virtually anonymous. Struggling to recall a significant contribution from an attacking point of view, and when the reshuffle came, was shunted back into central midfield, a position he's spent 7 years proving he can't play.

    Sako- 5. A decent outlet in the first half, faded badly in the second half though. Got into some good positions and had the beating of his full back time and time again, the final ball was lacking though.

    Afobe- 7- MotM. Despite the defeat, I was very impressed by Afobe. I thought he showed some great control, a constant willingness to run, and a wonderful near post run for the goal. Early days I know but he looks an impressive piece of business.

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    Dicko- 5. Came on and ran at the defence a couple of times, and almost diverted Henry's shot in during stoppage time. Strange decision to drop him, too.

    Henry- 4. Some woeful touches, had one shot from the edge of the box, but other than that, not the impact Kenny would have wanted.

    Price- Brought on to try and stop the counter attacks, and did that, hardly made us a more threatening team though.
     
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    I've always been a big fan of Jackett, but today his management decisions were absolutely baffling - starting with the team sheet.

    Firstly, why does he keep teetering with the defence which have been relatively solid over the past 7 or 8 days? The dropping of Iorfa, who has been a revelation and an important figure in our recent form is unjustified in my opinion, although I wasn't there at Bolton so cannot comment on his performance there. His replacement Docherty was average at best and no way better than Iorfa's recent form.

    Secondly, the exclusion of Price. Without him in central midfield we lack control and cohesion; his 'behind-the-scenes' works are underestimated and under-appreciated. It is no coincidence that out of the last 34 games we have played with Price starting, we have only lost one game. I know that most of these games were in League 1 but this is still an exceptional record never the less. Evans, who came in for him, was erratic and his game was littered with mistakes.

    I will probably get blasted for saying this I actually can't understand what Edwards offers to the table. He is lumbering, cannot read the game and every one of his passes are as sliced as a Dominos pizza. I understand that he works hard and gives his all, and sometimes this pays off, but he is playing in a creative role by Jackett where he doesn't do any creating and is one of the reasons why we look so predictable and fail to score. People may argue that he is 'joint top scorer' or whatever but he is joint top scorer with four goals, which further points to our lack of creativity. Henry or Jacobs should be given a chance in the 'no. 10' role.

    In game, Jackett also seemed to be too slow to notice our obvious shortcomings. In the second half we were average again and it clearly needed to be changed - he brought Price and Henry on after we conceded the second and we immediately looked better with their conclusion, although not great I admit; but by that point we were chasing the game. If we are to get a top 6 finish like Jackett keeps banging on about then we need to be better. Undoubtedly, we were poor at home to a Reading teams lagging in the lower half of the table. We barely mustered a shot apart from our goal.

    Kuszchak - 5
    Doherty - 6
    Stearman - 5
    Batth - 6
    Hause - 6
    Sako - 7
    Mcdonald - 6
    Evans - 4
    VLP - 6
    Edwards - 4
    Afobe - 6

    Dicko - 6
    Price - 7
    Henry - 6
     
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    Albion reject 3. If you weren't a wolves fan you could probably guess he was Albion $$$$!
    Doherty 4 offered very little support to RVLP and shown no reason to be in the team
    Stearman 6 few mistakes but not too bad. Haven't seen goal yet though
    Batth 6 same as above
    Hause 5 again, haven't seen replay of goal but think he did the job on the whole

    Evans 6 great to have a player to pass forwards
    McDonald 1 disgusting how he moved out the way of the ball for second. Pathetic. Easy block it would have been

    RVLP 6 good in parts. Lots of mistakes though , set the goal up perfectly , no end product? Not all the time but he was one to get a goal for us today. No support from Doherty
    Edwards 3 forgot he was playing , god knows how he stays on so long when we lack so much creativity. Jacketts in capability in this position is a joke
    Sako 5 tried to make stuff happen but fluffed a great chance and selfish on others

    Afoebe 6 not his fault if jackett doesn't play to his strength. Not enough movement but he is very skillful . Well taken header.

    Dicko 2 . Pathetic his sulking reaction when he is dropped. Needs to man up.
    Henry 8 thougt he was great . Deserves to start tues and I think Edwards has to make way.

    Atmo - 1 . Can only sing when we wcore , non existent the rest. Too many customers.
     
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    A bad day at the office today, but we are a work in progress. We will get results like today.
     
  39. ???

    He was off on one.

    He was the fluid stuff that follows a couple of lumpy ones.
     
  40. Edgmond Wolf

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    I thought Afobe had a decent game.

    A little quiet in the first half but made some good runs he appears to prefer the ball over his shoulder that he turns and runs onto.

    Moved to accomodate Dicko. I thought he played well when he was moved deeper. Good feet and vision. Could he play the number ten role??
     

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