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  1. Tring Wolf

    Tring Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season Winner 2011-2012 and r

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    ...the last Wolves winger to reach double figures in three consecutive seasons?

    Congratulations to Bakary on an excellent achievement. Two great goals (and another assist) tonight.
     
  2. North West Wanderer

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    He was absolutely top class tonight. Free role rather than specifically left wing. I'm a huge critic at times, not tonight.
     
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    In terms of doing what he is in the team to do, he has been our most consistent player since he joined.
     
  4. Tring Wolf

    Tring Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season Winner 2011-2012 and r

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    When you consider that the likes of Kennedy, Froggatt, Jarvis and Kightly never got into double figures once, you must be going back years and years.
     
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    Well done Bakary!!!

    Praying for some kind of miracle that we convince him to stay, at least for another season.
     
  6. WolvesAreBoringOnCeefax

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    I thought tonight showed why he's so important, two crap sides and the difference was his corner and 2 individual goals.

    Also didn't seem to me that he really celebrated that fully, is his heart in it? I think he'll be off in the summer if we don't go up.
     
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    Makes me laugh this game all about opinions. I didn't like him centrally and thought he got caught far too much centrally. But 2 good strikes I'll grant you, but didn't play well for me.

    Wish I could play average and score 2 mind you
     
  8. North West Wanderer

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    And assist the third! he wouldn't have scored the second had he been so wide. Such a clever finish.
     
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    It was mate and he made the difference and often does.
    But for me he was often sloppy, looked uncomfortable centrally, but kept going and got his reward for it. He's that kind of player who can look out of sorts, yet deliver the difference.
    Glad we have him
     
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    I'm too nice to go back to the build up the 'team v Rotherham' thread to find out who was suggesting that we should drop him!
     
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    My Dad will say Johnny Hancocks to the OP and Bakary isn't fit to lact his size 3 boots, but I can't vouch for that and presumably there is someone since?
     
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    Sako was excellent .2 good goals an assist and a nuisance to their back four.
     
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    I've been saying for ages get him in the middle, strong, powerful, great shot, can go past players easily & he can hold onto the ball for more than 3 seconds comitting defenders & bringing others into play.

    Ge'rr it wide I still hear shouts of behind me as we worked the ball across the box & he curled one in.
     
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    Great thread, it's about time we all acknowledge what a game changer he is, lovely to see such unified positive feedback from the fans who were there tonight.

    All is well with the world today :)
     
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    Pure guesswork here, but Terry Wharton scored an impressive amount of goals for Wolves from the outside-right position - although a significant number of his goals were scored from penalties I believe. I'm quite sure that during the early-mid 1960s period, Wharton generally finished with double figures for the season for Wolves.

    Although certainly not a winger in the traditional sense, Kenny Hibbitt reached double figures a few consecutive times in the mid-1970s. However, as it was a little before my time, I don't know if Hibbitt's goals were scored primarily from his usual right midfield position or the central role he occupied at times.

    More recently, during our climb from the fourth and third divisions, I recall Robbie Dennison finishing a few seasons around the double figure mark but, on reflection, I don't think he did actually reach double figures in any consecutive seasons. I could be wrong though.

    My guess is that Terry Wharton was indeed the last, recognised Wolves winger to reach double figures in three consecutive seasons. If correct, that would mean it's taken some fifty odd years or so for a Wolves winger to equal the feat!
     
  16. Tring Wolf

    Tring Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season Winner 2011-2012 and r

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    Thanks for such a comprehensive reply Beowulf. I certainly couldn't recall it happening in my 30 years of supporting Wolves so that does help to put his achievement in some sort of perspective (especially given the fact he is likely to have also reached double figures in assists in each of those 3 years as well).

    Given that we're going to have saved over £100k a week on the wage bill versus 2014, I'd have no qualms about us offering him an extra £5k a week to sign a new deal. I understand the argument for wage parity but he's already one of our top earning players and it certainly hasn't affected the dressing room or his popularity in it. If we are going to make an exception, it makes much more sense for it to be on someone who we know performs here.

    I really don't think he will sign a new deal but we certainly shouldn't be asking him to take a pay cut or lowballing him on any offer.
     
  17. No! He gets the ball stuck under his feet, would struggle with big defender sitting on his back. He's such a threat out wide / roaming because he has space in front of him
     
  18. FLEET WOLF

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    Terry Wharton?
     
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    Said to my mate, on his day when he can be arsed he has to be one of the best players outside the PL. Outstanding last night

    Well done to Jackett for taking him off also. Straight down the tunnel though, must of had a little niggle.
     
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    Yep, I'd say Terry 'Piggy' Wharton was the last. Kenny Hibbitt doesn't count, he wasn't a winger. Jim McCalliog scored a few wearing the number 7 shirt, but he wasn't with us that long... Alan Sunderland?
     
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    Just checked the record books. Terry Wharton scored more than 10 goals per season (in all competitions) in 62-3, 63-4, 64-5, 65-6, 66-7 -- 5 seasons in a row. Most of these goals were in the league, and in some seasons his total was around 20.
     
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    He wore 8 quite a bit and as you say about KH he wasn't a winger.
     
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    A very good record
     
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    I'd have said 'Piggy' Wharton,but my memory ain't what it was!
     
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    It's tough enough trying to recall who was the last Wolves striker to achieve it...
     
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    I actually thought that after posting the OP!

    Is it Bully?!
     
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    Surely Norman Deeley was the last.57-8, 58-9 59-60. Terry Wharton did not have five in a row. He scored 8 in league in 64-5 and one in FA Cup.
     
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    That's what I was thinking
     
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    I don't think Terry scored five in a row. In 64-5 he had eight in league and 1 in FA Cup. That makes Norman Deeley last to do it - 57-8, 58-9, 59-60.
    The great Johnny Hancocks did it ten in a row,
     
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    Fletcher done it in two, guessing it must be Bully.
     
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    Off the top of my head I would say it was Norman Deeley:

    1957/58 : 23 league goals
    1958/59 : 17 league goals + 2 FA Cup goals
    1959/60 : 14 league goals + 4 FA Cup goals
     
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    Kenny Miller?
     
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    Replying to my own post, I find that Terry Wharton did it, although unlike Deeley he didn't manage it 3 times in the league consecutively:


    1961/62 : 11 league goals + 2 FA Cup goals
    1962/63 : 16 league goals
    1963/64 : 9 league goals + 1 FA Cup goal
     
  34. Tring Wolf

    Tring Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season Winner 2011-2012 and r

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    Just looked his stats up:

    24, 2, 20, 12.

    So 3 out of 4 (with the two goals being our Premier League season).

    So I think it probably was Bully.

    Thanks for your replies too oldwulf. So it is basically 50 years since a Wolves winger achieved this and 25 years since any Wolves player did. That's pretty impressive going.
     
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    Never understood why we sold Wharton. As for Sako he is a gem. We will miss him greatly and be a poorer team without him. Losing him for nothing because we failed to strengthen sufficiently will be the most galling footnote to a season where we will just miss out on the play offs imv.
     
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    I don't mean up front with his back to goal I mean giving him a free role centrally & let him pick up the ball & go where he wants. At times he's wasted & marked out the game on the wing yet he's our most influential player.
     
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    He was very deep at times which is how he's most effective for me. Gives him the room to run at players
     
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    Sako again proving his worth.
     
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    I stand corrected. Wharton only scored 9 in 64-65. So it must be little Norman ("the leg-breaker") Deeley. Bloody hell, that's 55 years ago -- I was 11.
     

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