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We should have sold Sako

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by WednesburyWolf, Feb 7, 2015.

  1. WednesburyWolf

    WednesburyWolf Has a lot to say

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    I'm deadly serious.

    What is the $$$$ing point of keeping him if we weren't going to add to our paper thin squad and in particular our $$$$ poor midfield.
    Price offers zero going forward, Evans offers zero to protect, Edwards forces us to play 6-0-3-1, 4-5-1 or however you want to skin the cat and McDonald found his level last season.

    Seriously if they didn't want to invest then they should have cashed in on Bakary. To keep him and not strengthen further is infuriating as he'll leave in 4 months for nothing anyway so what the point?

    This division is there for the taking and we are happy with mediocrity.

    I assure you I don't normally whinge, far from it, but we have been $$$$ for weeks and I'm angry tonight.
     
  2. Jim Bowen

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    I remember posters on here high fiving each other celebrating what great money we got for Jarvis and Fletcher in the summer of 2012, we reinvested no more than half of the money we generated that transfer window so from a fans perspective I wonder why people say we should cash in on players? When did we last sell a player for decent money and then improve or at least sign good replacements? So why get rid of him? We wouldn't see the money reinvested in the 1st team so what's the point either way?
     
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  3. bod101

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    to stop us from going down? ;)
     
  4. WednesburyWolf

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    I don't mean we should have sold him to reinvest I am saying what was the point of keeping him and not reinforcing? It completely defeats the object IMO.
     
  5. Sako didn't want to leave. He wants to get promoted with Wolves.

    ££££
     
  6. Netherton Wolf

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    he'll b retired before that happens on todays performance
     
  7. we8wba

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    Do you really think sako stay even if somehow promoted? No

    All about ££££

    As for orgianal post, agreed

    Although as mentioned after no garuntee 2-3m invested wisely

    We apperently keeping him to keep our chances alive then gamble a little like derby have
    Speculate to accumulate
     
  8. Jim Bowen

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    I agree he needs better players around him but we might just get a handful of performances out of him before the end of the season that make the entrance fee at least knocking on towards value for money. So 4 months here scoring a few match winners is better than the money we got for him being used on pay-offs, another 17 or 18 year old from non-league who we'll never see and inadequate cheap replacements.
     
  9. Bugsy911

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    Agree fully and said the same at the game today.

    We didn't do any work of note in the transfer window as Afobe based on today is a replacement for Dicko not a striker to play alongside him and we would have probably done just as well with him playing the loan striker today as I don't think Afobe is cut our for it.

    The midfield is so bad its scary and that money we might have got could have got us a couple of players in to help us out as my word they are needed.

    End result is this squad will not make the play offs and we will have lost the best player we have for nothing in the summer which is another mess that will need to be sorted out and who can see Morgan shelling out for anyone half decent ?
     
  10. Bumbamuffin

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    We wouldn't have spent the money anyway so we may as well enjoy his last appearances with us.
     
  11. we8wba

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    Interesting

    I thought afobe was good and one only players worthy comment today, also think in charlton game made smart runs and just didn't have players pick him out! Today came deeper got involved

    Dicko when he came on and much same recently has been bang average at best

    What I see so far afobe better striker
     
  12. Perton Wolf

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    Yep, no point in keeping him when we are a mid table outfit, money could've really helped us out in the Summer. Serious lack of long term planning from the club. He's definitely off in the Summer, I'd rather players who will be here next season for our promotion push have greater attention on them. No disrespect to Sako, he's been a good professional for us and is clearly talented but he won't be here come August.
     
  13. RosehillWolf

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    Dicko isn't good enough at this level.
     
  14. northnorfolkwolf

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    It's a really difficult judgement call but I assume SM thinks with him we could get promotion but today's result, with 2 away games to come, I think effectively knocks promotion on the head. No promotion and Sako leaving is the worst of all scenarios but today we are all speaking with hindsight - a good win today and we'd all say keeping him was he best decision?
     
  15. Legs everywhere today. Like a badger getting run over.
     
  16. Hrothgar

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    Personally, I don't think it would've made a scrap of difference if we'd sold him or not. Yes perhaps if we had then someone like Grealish might have been brought in- but essentially we would remain a mid- table sort of side that has flattered to deceive somewhat this season by virtue of a surprisingly good start and a few good wins in close games that has put us 8 th in the table but (significantly) with a very poor GD. On our day with a following wind we can beat most teams in the league but equally we are often struggling against teams well below us. With what we've had and have now got in terms of personnel I reckon we are still slightly exceeding (reasonable) expectation all things considered. The whole Sako business is pretty much a sideshow, he is probably on course to move to a lower half PL club whilst we are still very much a work in progress.
     
  17. Wednesbury Wolf

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    You can just see us offering him the sort of wages that middle ranking premier teams would offer so what ever he says if by some miracle we got promoted he'd be gone rather rapidly.

    I keep reading how we're mid table and nothing to worry about, well we won't be mid table for long if teams like Reading do us at home.

    They were 11 point behind us before today and have done nothing all season but still beat us with something to spare.
     
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    Excellent :D
     
  19. Tring Wolf

    Tring Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season Winner 2011-2012 and r

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    We shouldn't have sold Sako but we should have brought in more quality to play alongside him.

    My understanding is that our top targets in the Summer were Wood, Maguire, RVLP and Rowe, whilst in the January window, they were Afobe, Zyro, Lingard and Charlie Mulgrew. As to whose fault it is that we didn't get more of those in (or had better quality alternatives lined up) I'm not entirely sure.

    Could have had a side something along the lines of:

    Ikeme
    Iorfa, Stearman, Maguire, Golbourne
    McDonald, Mulgrew
    Zyro, Lingard, Sako
    Dicko

    Kuszchak, Batth, Rowe/Edwards, Afobe, Wood, RVLP, Price
     
  20. Wolf316

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    Sako was going nowhere. Why on earth would he leave now when he can get a massive signing bonus in the summer and get a full season in the prem.
     
  21. SingYourHeartsOut

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    If we'd sold him I guarantee the same people on here saying we should have sold him would be going mental.
     
  22. ProudWolf

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    Tring, where did you hear about Charlie Mulgrew? First I've heard/seen of it.
     
  23. Tring Wolf

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    Friend of mine who usually has very decent sources. I'm not 'ITK' myself hence why I didn't speculate at the time.
     
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    He will go for nothing in the summer and we will have to get a replacement so might as well have got on with it.
     
  25. Perton Wolf

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    No doubt a desperate Premier League Club/newly promoted may come in for Sako but I think he will badly struggle at that level, he's not consistent enough and is too erratic. Looked extremely average for us as of late (before AFCON and yesterday) when he's played.
     
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    Might as well have got a fee for him and used it in the Summer for players who will actually be here next season to try and get us up. Sako's Agent has made a fool of Wolves, now he will have much more choice in the Summer as to who to sign for. I think he would've gone if offered a decent salary and contract from a Premier League team last month.
     
  27. The_Blade

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    Disagree. The fee we would have got would have been swallowed up elsewhere and never seen again. There was no time to get an equivalent. He will walk anyway so you might as well keep him just incase we make the play offs
     
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    No offer came in from a club Sako would go to most likely. Rumoured QPR and S***e made bids, but why would he leave and take a chance they would be relegated when he can walk at the end of the season?
    I'm not so sure he will get a top 2/3 premier club after him mind, but a promoted club could do. That club could be us, but after yesterday and recent form I am doubtful.
    If there was resonable money offered and Sako would go, I bet we would have snapped their hand off!
     
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    Sako is not our saviour, he is too inconsistent and if he was so valuable he would have left some time ago and quite rightly he should be tormenting teams like Reading out of the game. It is our midfield which needs help and our management are too reliant on inconsistent average players, very surprised at KMac not stepping up at all.
     
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    A few have mentioned a slight change in formation how about 4-1-4-1 with just price sitting deep. It would certainly push kmac forward 10 yards
     
  31. luckyjim

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    If we had shown some ambition in the transfer market this window, I would agree we should have kept him, but if we give the impression we're simply not interested in getting promoted and don't strengthen where we blatantly need strengthening, then it's absurd to waste the opportunity to get some money for him.
     
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    If Sako supposedly loves the Wolves so much why doesn't he sign a new contract enabling us to get a fee for him ? Oh sorry he couldn't really give a **** about us and is just a mercenary- hence we should have cashed in on him in Jan
     
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    Professiional game, players led by agents. He may have some affection for us, but has other ambitions too and he has a £2-3M signing on fee in the summer if a premier club come in for him.

    We would have cashed in for sure if someone came in for him that was acceptable to him and paid us some cash. Only clubs with a possibility of relegation supposedly made offers (S***e and QPR) so why shouldn't he just wait and see what turns up. He will get at least the same amount of cash and a full season at least in the premier league, provided of course some one does come in for him.

    It could be us of course, but unlikely after recent performances.
     
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    He ain't all $$$$ing that let's be honest, I heard how Blackpool Bolton charlton would of been won with Sako, $$$$ me are Reading that much better? Are they $$$$, he's a 1 in 4 player sorry to spell out the truth folks, Jarvis Kightly and Fletcher all looked good in a higher league, none are exactly flying are they? We ain't seen true class (top half prem) since Keane or Lescott, it's sad but true. Good luck if he goes but I'd of took the £2m and invested it in 4 quality lower league players hoping 1 pays off
     
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    I made 2 threads saying sell him and bring in Ince and Lingard.

    I got laughed at and knew nothing about football
     
  36. Perton Wolf

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    I didn't see those posts but Ince is better than Sako so would've agreed, and Lingard is an exciting prospect also.
     
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    I'm very glad we kept Sako. Could have won us the game yesterday if only he had controlled that cross just before Reading scored.. Disappointing line up and performance yesterday and 2 tough away games this week. 2 more defeats this week and things would start looking very grim though.

    I think we can easily make the play offs if we can start playing our strongest team and keep them fit. Squad is wafer thin though. We have to play Golbourne, Iorfa and Price.
     
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    I agree to an extent.

    Realistically Sako is going to make the difference between say finishing 8-12th or 10-14th.

    If we were going to go all out for promotion this season and get another 1/2 quality players in then yeah it would have been worth keeping him but as we didn't and weren't may as well have got some £ for him now than see him leave for nothing when we don't get promoted.
     
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    We should know better but after Saturday's turgid no show we might have expected KJ to say whilst this team can do better we are making efforts to bring in one or two players to help out and push us on to the play offs.The window is open but the silence is deafening.
     
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    Does anyone genuinely believe we were offered £2m for a player out of contract in the summer and even more laughably, we turned it down??

    And even more hilarious than all of that, IF we were offered £2m which we werent and IF we did accept it would've been reinvested into the team like the Fletcher/Jarvis money?? (aherm)

    Anyway must pull up, before I crash my gold and black unicorn through laughing so much.
     

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