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Wafer thin squad

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  1. JOSWolf

    JOSWolf Just doesn't shut up

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    How is such a weak squad going to finish top six?
    Two senior strikers in the squad! Yes two!
    No back up for Edwards or Sako. Only three central midfield players.
    It really is $$$$ poor.
    I am stunned to be honest!
    What are they playing at?
     
  2. Leigh72

    Leigh72 Just doesn't shut up

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    These clowns need to get out of our club, what the hell do they think they are doing??
    P***poor all round.

    And remember it is these clowns that go on about promotion, they must be mental
     
  3. WalsallWolf

    WalsallWolf Just doesn't shut up

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    Clearly this is something Jackett quite likes as we persevered with only Dicko and Clarke the latter end of last season.

    Honestly staggered. Welcome back Doyle I guess.
     
  4. Dan G WWFC

    Dan G WWFC Just doesn't shut up

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    Think of the wages we've.are saving on.
     
  5. MolineuxMixer

    MolineuxMixer Just doesn't shut up

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    Doyler is like a new signing
     
  6. JOSWolf

    JOSWolf Just doesn't shut up

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    Shambles.
    We must have one of the weakest squads in the league.
    One or two injuries and we are stuffed!
    I cant quite believe we have come to the end of the window with the squad in this state.
    We need some answers and not bull$$$$.
     
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  7. Tring Wolf

    Tring Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season Winner 2011-2012 and r

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    Hugely worried by the striker situation but I can't believe they would let Clarke, Sigurdarson and MacAlinden all leave without having someone lined up. That and the Johnson announcement suggests to me we are freeing up wages for a loan signing.

    If we go to the end of the season with two senior strikers (with one of those having bad hamstrings), the Board deserve all the stick they get.
     
  8. JOSWolf

    JOSWolf Just doesn't shut up

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    Music to Laurel and Hardy's ears!
     
  9. JOSWolf

    JOSWolf Just doesn't shut up

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    They deserve all the stick they are getting now!
    What a poor situation! :mad:
     
  10. Edgmond Wolf

    Edgmond Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season Runner Up 2011-2012

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    Too little too late

    We can dress it up how we want but the truth is we had a poor summer transfer window followed by a poor January window

    Derby showed the intent we lack....
     
  11. Berlin Wolf

    Berlin Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    I guess Jez was clowning about when he said Wolves want to emulate Everton..
     
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    Sedgley Gold N Black Just doesn't shut up

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    We've now got 20 players who have played for us this season.

    One's injured (Rowe), another's available for loan (Ricketts) and Jacobs seems to have no chance of getting a game.

    We've realistically got a squad of 17 players at the moment.
     
  13. Dan G WWFC

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    What's James Wilson up to?
     
  14. JOSWolf

    JOSWolf Just doesn't shut up

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    Look at our squad list now.
    Frightening how weak it is.
     
  15. Leigh72

    Leigh72 Just doesn't shut up

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    Lack of ambition is truly astounding, this club averages 20k every week and the way we are short changed is embarrassing.
    Go and buy Walsall Morgan, that's about your level
     
  16. WeAreTheWolves

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    3rd/4th choice at United, unlike Wolves, United and most other clubs view the need to have back-up strikers as a pretty important part of a squad.
     
  17. Tony

    Tony Just doesn't shut up

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    I don't think we will catch the top 2 now so they are out of the equation. Top 6 has to be our aim and we aren't far off. We can lose against Derby at home and it wont make a bit of difference. Forget Derby!
     
  18. sc91

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    It's more two/three injuries and we are up $$$$-creak and needing to fit round pegs into square holes.
     
  19. JOSWolf

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    A couple of injuries and we are stuffed! Are the people in charge of our club stupid?
     
  20. spittlep

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    The Moxey Years - Stoke City FC 1995-2000
    With our current predicament & questions over our current administration, I thought I would look at Jez Moxey's time at Stoke & why he remains to be so unpopular with SCFC fans.

    I was surprised to see many familiar recurring themes such as team performance, manager appointments, player sales, financial restrictions, fan reaction & the role of ground development in the club's fortunes. Excerpts below.

    1995-96 - Second Tier

    Prior to the start of the 1995–96 season there was a lot of talk about the possibility of Stoke building a new stadium.

    On the pitch Stoke enjoyed their most successful season for quite a long time as they mounted a push for promotion to the Premiership and the made the end-of season play-offs.

    Few transactions took place in the summer of 1995 with the main talk being about a change of home.

    Fielding a settled side Stoke continued to remain in the hunt for promotion...but on transfer deadline day Paul Peschisolido was controversially sold back to Birmingham City with Manager Lou Macari claiming to have not been aware of any deal.

    1996-97 - Second Tier

    Stoke were all set to move to a new stadium with the 1996–97 season confirmed as the final season at the Victoria Ground.

    With Stoke agreeing with the council to pay £6million manager Lou Macari had no money to spend on new players instead having to rely on free or cheap transfers and loan signings.

    It was a very inconsistent season results wise as Stoke finished in 12th position.

    The first ramifications of the move became clear in the summer of 1996 as a number of players wanted a move away as the club began finding the £6million they needed. Nigel Gleghorn and Vince Overson were the first to depart. Funds were generated by the sale of Graham Potter for £300,000 and Lee Sandford for £450,000. The board did permit Macari to spend £200,000 on Richard Forsyth who became the first player Stoke signed who cost money since 1994.

    With the club losing three very good players the supporters were downbeat about the club's prospects ahead of the 1996–97 season.

    There were some serious questions now being raised as to how Stoke could afford the £6million needed for their new stadium.

    Manager Lou Macari announced he was leaving at the end of the season which was a surprise but he was 'stripped of his duties' before he left and later launched a law suit against Peter Coates for wrongful dismissal.

    Less of a surprise was the departure of Mike Sheron who joined QPR for £2.75 million exactly the amount Stoke needed to make up their £6million. And so Stoke went into a new era at the Britannia Stadium with no manager and their best player departed.

    1997-98 - Second Tier

    With Macari leaving, his assistant Chic Bates was appointed....results were generally quite good...however performances completely dropped off and the club dropped down the table like a stone...which sparked ugly scenes from some supporters as Stoke headed for relegation.

    The dawn of a new era at the Britannia Stadium should have been full of hope, but the departure of Lou Macari still not fully explained, plus the farcical search for a replacement, left fans wondering what exactly was going on. Many felt the delay in announcing the new manager was a way of boosting season ticket sales with many expecting Sammy McIlroy to be named as the new boss but the silence was deafening and caretaker Chic Bates was left to take care of pre-season training.

    It soon became clear that Bates was going to be give the role full-time and in July he duly was, much to the disappointment of many. Former manager Alan Durban made a return to the club as Bates' assistant to help take away some of his responsibilities. The opening the Britannia Stadium was also seen as a fiasco. There was transport problems, ticket problems and the opening ceremony was awful.

    Chairman Peter Coates was now very unpopular with the supporters and there were many protests against him due to Coates not spending his money. Attendances at the new ground were poor and by Christmas Stoke had lost their early season form and were in serious trouble. The slump was brought to head early in the new year when Birmingham City beat Stoke 7–0 at home which prompted ugly scenes at the final whistle as around 2,000 fans invaded the pitch and enter the director's box. The next match saw more fan protests and Coates resigned as chairman.

    On the pitch Bates was clearly not cut to be a manager and so was replaced by former Bradford boss Chris Kamara. He arrived with bold intentions claiming the he would build a squad good enough to take Stoke into the Premiership, but he sold the only real player of value, Andy Griffin and in his 14 matches in charge only one was won and after an awful 3–0 defeat against Tranmere Rovers he lost his job. Kamara's time at Stoke was a disaster and with Stoke heading for relegation Alan Durban took over for the remaining matches. The final day saw the inevitable happen and Stoke were relegated to the third tier.

    1998-1999 - Third Tier

    So Stoke entered a new era at their 28,000 seater stadium in the third tier of English football with heavy debts of around £5m and had no manager the future seemed very uncertain. It came as a welcome surprise then when Brian Little arrived.

    By November it seemed a matter of when and not if Stoke would gain promotion but their form completely dropped off and just one win was registered from the end of November to March.

    Chief executive Jez Moxey was now coming in for some serious pressure to resign by the supporters due to the poor finances and with no chance of promotion Stoke finished in 8th place. Little had since lost interest way before the end of the season and he resigned in July leaving Stoke to find another manager.

    Chief executive Jez Moxey predicted that Stoke would lose around £1 million a year through being in Division Two, such was the price Stoke had to pay after poor financial mismanagement on moving to the Britannia Stadium.

    In an attempt to retain fan interest season ticket prices were froze and new chairman Keith Humphreys apologised for the past nine months of "bloody awful football" and he also appealed to the supporter group S.O.S (Save Our Stoke) to lift their ban on season tickets and merchandise. SOS wanted the stave out the current board and force them to sell in order to breathe fresh life back into the club.

    Accepting that there was hardly any money available, Little signed players from the lower leagues such as Bryan Small, Phil Robinson and David Oldfield.

    Jez Moxey divulges that they had budgeted for three rounds in the League Cup, Stoke lost to Macclesfield Town in the first round and therefore lost some £125,000.

    It was becoming frustrating for Stoke as promotion rivals Fulham went out and spent £2m on Barry Hayles whose goals would win them the title and Stoke on the other hand had to rely on free transfers and loans as well as academy players.

    More protests by the supporters followed against Moxey and the directors as Stoke's slim hopes of making the play-offs ended. Brian Little resigned in July 1999.


    What followed was that basically Peter Coates got abuse from fans during the Moxey years, lost interest & left to concentrate on his other business interests.

    Jez Moxey oversaw the appointment of Gary Megson, the subsequent sale of Stoke to an Icelandic consortium (along with a Scandinavian Manager), left Stoke in the 3rd tier with a new stadium and arrived at Wolves in 2000.

    Meanwhile, Coates had made a success of his other business (Bet365) & later returned to buy back the club. A previously unpopular figure, he is now worshipped by Stoke fans, many of whom say Coates decision making is unrecognisable from the one during the Moxey years.

    He's doing exactly the same here.
     
  21. JOSWolf

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    I wish Moxey would clear off to be honest. He's been here long enough.
     
  22. WalsallWolf

    WalsallWolf Just doesn't shut up

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    People have theories on top of theories about Moxey but I am just always sure that Sir Jack would not have hired such a $$$$er to effectively run the club.
     
  23. JW

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    It's absolutely diabolical that we have 2 strikers, 3 wingers and 1 centre mid.

    Wolves have lost the plot
     
  24. MolineuxMixer

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    The cancer at the heart of the club
     
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    Asset stripping.
     
  26. Wolfman jack

    Wolfman jack Has a lot to say

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    Loan market not closed yet I understand. Let dust settle and see what we can do.
     
  27. Tony

    Tony Just doesn't shut up

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    It's easy to say ''if we get injuries.........''. It's the same for every team. Luck has a big part to play in football!
     
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    It was $$$$ the last time.
     
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    I have said it before and ridiculed by a few; he is only here to make a profit from his investment; the club is worth considerably more than the £10 he paid and his £30million investment.

    With the very handsome profit from the 55 luxury new homes he built (with the help of government funding) on Compton and the increase in net asset value (new training facility and new stand), he has probably more than doubled his investment so far.

    He does not give a hoot about the clubs league position or the fans, only his pocket.
    He can/will walk away and laugh whilst we watch and suffer with the continuous lies and deceit.
     
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    JOSWolf Just doesn't shut up

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    I cant believe how weak they have left us. They are taking the $$$$!
     
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    How do you know we weren't after players? Players have to want to come to the club in the first place. Folks go on about Derby - but they're in a better position than us, play better football than us and have a coach who is IMHO better than ours. If you were a player where would you rather be?
     
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    Exactly the same said after the summer farce and look what happened there?
    They are clueless.
     
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    Look how weak our squad is. How is that acceptable? It is $$$$ poor if you ask me!
     
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    Starting to agree clueless. With Clarke leaving now- no ambition, no idea. Shamefull.
     
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    If we dont sign at least 2 players on loan il be $$$$ed off
     
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    I will say this, it's better to have Wilson, Kieta, Graham or even Doyle on the bench than Clarke for the next 20 games imo. He is just not suited to our style.
     
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    I do agree with this. Leon Clarke does not mean we have a strong/weak squad. He has been anonymous in his time here, all said and done and the fact people are now using him specifically as a stick for the board is laughable really. We have always had a small squad. The loss of Clarke does not make it any smaller nor does the inclusion make it bigger - as harsh as that is.
     
  38. JOSWolf

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    The issue is will any of those players make the bench or will it be three defenders yet again?
    As poor as Leon was didn't he come off the bench and get some vital goals for us?
    Who does this now?
     
  39. Mark Rankines Lovechild

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    Clarke wasn't liked by the fans, no one wanted him so why persist in flogging a dead horse, he won't be here after summer anyway.

    I would rather see a youngster giving it his all, as long as it isn't Cassidy. In reality it will probably be Doyle.

    Fact of the matter is it is going to be one up front so the issue won't be an issue.
     
  40. WalsallWolf

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    See no reason why Jordan Graham cannot now get a chance. I would not rule out Doyle either.
     

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