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top of the league so why the low gates ??

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  1. SOUTHBANK_BULLY

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    sat around molineux on saturday thinking why all the empty seats , were top of the league and starting to pull away from 3rd place in the table , so why all the empty seats and the low gates ? a few yrs back we'd be getting 26k now

    not having a dig at people who dont go but id like to discuss why were geting such poor gates
     
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    Ok, can you now explain the awful atmosphere?
     
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    there was no atmosphere until the stadium announcer reminded the south bank that it is a all seater stadium, after that the atmosphere picked up

    like i said though top of the league pulling away from 3rd yet poor gates
     
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    Awful atmopshere? Take it you don't get too many away games then as you will realise how bad the atmosphere is at some grounds.

    Saturday was ok considering the game was one we expected to win, Blackpool's following were mute and only one stand now sings at the Molineux.

    Southampton fans were great last week, but they had a common enemy - their team and the board. Our atmopshere at home is as good as any in this league - in fact I'd put it at the top.

    Saturday's gate was a little surprising, but I'm not going to start worrying just yet. If we don't sell out against Blues, then it's time to worry.
     
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    cant see the game being a sell out as its live on sky with an early kick off
     
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    Blues fans haven't sold out their 1,400 allocation.
     
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    The walk up price is too high. As it has been for years.

    The 4-5k who are missing are invariably the $$$$ers who boo our own players and contribute nothing, I don't care if they stay away.
     
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    blues fans wont be in the south bank flank they'll be in the steve bull lower which holds more than 1,400
     
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    For real football fans, TV wouldn't put you off from going as it's an artificial offer compared to the real thing.
     
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    I know that, but my mate who is a Blues fan says they have only been allocated 1,400. I imagine they will get more if they sell all of that 1,400.
     
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    The way they sell the lower tier now is in three lots - 1400, 2000, 2600 and 2800 in special circumstances. The latter has to be agreed by the boys in blue.
     
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    We generally give clubs in that stand an initial allocation of around 1400 and then send them more tickets if they ask for them.
     
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    thats not how it works though , people who live away from wolverhampton who are not season ticket holders will not go to the game as you can watch it from the comfort of your own armchair
     
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    Just in case it didn't get through to you first time SBB_UK we decided to say it three times...
     
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    ha ha , yer i noticed
     
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    Agree. The clue was in my first response.
     
  20. whats are the prices this season ? havent been able to go yet this season due to the distance i live away and the lack of cash
     
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    overpriced..all the leagues. they are slowly driving out the so called traditional fans and replacing them with the so called family plan, which I believe is a euphamism for make it look like something it isn`t and we can charge more for it..

    You can hear conversations like "did you go to the game"?.."yes not a bad day out but the pre-match entertainment wasn`t very entertaining"!

    "but what about the game"?..
    " I didn`t see much of it as I was too busy sorting out what the family wanted to eat and drink then I had to push past all these people who started moaning about they are trying to watch the game, I mean don`t these people realise getting a constant supply of food and drink is all part of the `Match Day Experience` not watching a football pitch for 90 minutes. I tell you what, I`ll be glad when the style managers tells me the next fashion thing to go and see as I don`t really understand this football thingy anyway and the cost of a coke is exhorbitant, I`m taking Jemima and Clarence to see the new exhibition next week instead"..

    Make it a tenner and I`ll be there even if it`s a early KO and on tv..
     
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    Matchday prices are about the same as the last couple of years. £30 in the BWU.

    If I didn't have a season ticket, I may well have looked at the freezing weather, the low key opponents, the bigger game coming up next Saturday and decided not to go. Obviously, I'd have to be of the mind not to have a ST in the first place, so it wouldn't happen, but with walk up prices as they are, I can see why people lose the habit of going once they relinquish weekly attendance.
     
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    i dint think it has anything to do with the credit crunch one bit , if were in this position come april then i think the gates will rise, but like i said , im really disapointed that were not getting 24-26k each home game considering our position in the league at this moment in time
     
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    Bit naive Southbank. If you take a child to the game you're looking at £50 minimum for the experience - that could be a week's worth of shopping and if you've just lost your job or been put on short time it's an expense not worth taking.

    They probably will return in April, but guess you wouldn't mind slapping a promotion party on the credit card rather than a Nov home game with the seasiders
     
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    Spot on.... 2 games in one week (not including the away one), as a casual fan, which one are you going to pick?

    It's not cheap this football lark... £50 a game when you throw everything in, 2 in one week is a killer, esp so close to Christmas.
     
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    not really no , you sit in the cheapest bit of the ground not the most expensive and if you live in or around wolverhampton theres no high petrol fee's so thats not really an excuse
     
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    Eh? Even in either the North or South Bank, and even allowing for the child being under 12 years old, two tickets alone come to £32 (not including booking fees - this is assuming you pay on the gate). Add in food, drink, travel, parking and other sundries and it easily hits £50.
     
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    You're still looking at £40. Football is important, but putting food on the table is more so.
     
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    How many seats have you got???
     
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    money...money...money....money.....money...

    Just reduce the ticket prices a little = full stadium.

    Its not complicated.....
     
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    2 tickets £32, food £3 outside catering not in the ground , drink take your own ,travel £3 daysaver on west mids travel and around £1.60 return for a kids bus ticket

    not everyone spends alot of money when they go to games

    thats not me being tight but i'll spend no where near £50 when i go to games
     
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    Well, that frugal outing (do you get your free drink for free from Tesco?) will still set you back £40. I'm assuming most people don't want to shell out £80 in a week on football, so given the choice between Blackpool and Birmingham, they pick the latter.

    It's not rocket surgery.
     
  34. W01ves

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    a) Credit crunch
    b) Christmas
    c) Cold weather
    d) Overpriced for casual walk in fans
    e) Fuel prices for long distance fans
    f) Threat of looming redundancies
    g) Two 'bigger' games coming up in quick sucession
    h) A few TV appearances coming up soon

    It's all been answered for you... Just because you disagree with it doesn't make it wrong!
     
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    Firstly cost comes into it. I don't have a season ticket - work and other commitments prevent attendance at every game nowadays particularly with the these kick off times. (In fact that is precisely why I went yesterday as 12.30 next week is really hard for me to get to).
    £23 each for a seat (not that I sat in it much - South Bank bad boy innit:)) and I resent the booking fee per ticket for others I brought with me. Also Blackpool are not a great attraction for occasional fans. It was bloody cold and also Wolves fans just 'know' it will all go wrong.
    People are worried about the future - shops and others are all reporting lower sales and our crowds reflect that.
    As for the atmosphere I thin there is now expectation returning and with it anxiety. Everyone knew we should win yesterday and coupled with Blues win people were nervous. These are precisely the type of game we have lost in previous seasons.
     
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    I'm not being funny but my calculations make your £39.60 spent only £10.40 less which isn't exactly that far off £50 (it's certainly not 'no where near'!)? If you take more than one child then it obviously goes over!
     
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    Football Clubs need to wake up. Sky News is full of businesses across the board (cars, stores, insurance, holidays, flights etc etc etc) doing fantastic customer deals - 2 for 1, half price, 70%off etc. Football does nothing and expects people to just turn up week in week out. Ridiculous.
    Next year as the recession hits harder things will get worse. Jez needs to come up with some ideas to promote attendance - big price reductions is the start.
     
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    How about the four family games? Or the £23 season tickets in the Family Enclosure?

    You can't massively slash prices mid-season as it devalues a season ticket (I personally don't subscribe to that line of thought, but plenty of people do).
     
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    Sorry to go on but thinking back to when I travelled by car from Norwich I would have no change from 100 quid for a home game. And this was to watch the likes of Stockport and Rotherham - hardly ManU!!!!!!
     
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    i would not have thought he was talking about people who travel like you. How much did it cost you to watch us at carrow road?The attendances will rise over the season in the bottled year remember the gillingham game where the atmosphere was immense the gate was about 22000 that day gates change everyweek dependant on the opposition always have done as for the atmosphere we are all nervous but so what get behind the lads and lets make home games a really enjoyable experience.
     

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