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  1. wolvesultra

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    Well done Pulis.

    Unfortunately English football is all about the money and nothing else, $$$$ the national team, $$$$ the fans, $$$$ the lower league clubs and the pyramid, $$$$ the grass roots as long as the greed league is the wealthiest in the world all is good.

    As the German clubs have said they could all earn vast sums more by converting the standing sections to seating but they have a different mentality to those ruining (running) our football which is just one of the big challenge we have to fight to get safe standing.

    The only way we'll adopt the German model, i.e. 50+1% supporter ownership which is the foundation their model is built on, is when our football completely collapses which thankfully grows closer each day.
     
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    There is now way the Smethwick Enders would give up their seats.
     
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    It would be very hard to do at Wolves in honesty, especially how its now set out.

    Maybe half the Northbank (across both tiers) would be the easiest way. With the lower tier eventually being converted into Safe Standing thus giving the away fans a choice of standing or seating too.
     
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    Really? Its not been very long since they often did, Brummie Road is the traditional 'end' at Albion by a mile.
     
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    Not anymore it's not. The Brummie Road end hardly makes a noise now, the hard core are in the Smethwick according to my baggie mate.
     
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    More worryingly, if we get in the play offs, teams will expect 4,500 from us.

    Will the police let us give the Steve Bull lower and the upper / lower quadrant?
     
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    Yeah Cov did so no worries, Tho Moxey will probably want to give em the whole South bank again:embarassed:
     
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    Can't see why not a couple pof clubs have had the Steve Bull and the lower quadrant.

    When the Northbank was rebuilt Jez said their were provisions to move over the divide for FA Cup games, presume this will be the same? In which case STH's maybe moved.

    Mind you that was when they seemed to be going for the Quadrant to be used as an almost permant away location theyve long since scrapped that idea.
     
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    Cov had the lower, not the upper as well. Didn't think the police were keen on us splitting the away fans over 2 stands?
     
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    They werent but that was more to do with the fact we split them between steve bull lower and southbank flank which meant them coming out/going in in two locations (with Wolves fans in between).

    The quadrant turnstiles (lower first then upper) are next to the Steve Bull lower turnstiles so it shouldn't be a problem.

    However, If they insisted on the netting etc in the steve bull even that and the quadrant would just run short of the 15% needed.
     
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    I'd imagine once its complete and going by the original plans they would potential have all of the corner and part of the Steve Bull as it sweeps round.

    However a few things I've heard would suggest that it won't now look like the original plans and would make that suggestion a non-starter...
     
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    care to elaborate??
     
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    Nothing new that things change under Morgan:D
     
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    I don't know how common knowledge it is so could quite easy be traced back to the source if it isn't and that wouldn't reflect well on them.

    Sorry, although you should be able to get the general gist from my without the specifics.
     
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    Why would WBA need an away end to fill? They took about 500 to City on Saturday
     
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    The Smerrick has been surrendered previously, and if all clubs bought into the concept it could happen again.
    And, compared to when the ground was all standing, no stands at the Hawthorns make a noise.
     
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    the brummie road end is the equivalent of the billie quiet, all the noise comes from the smethwick
     
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    Ok. Could you check with your source then please. There are certainly no changes that are common knowledge.

    If the plans have been changed I'd be very interested to know how and why.
     
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    Me too, Teddy.

    I hope the proposed new Steve Bull stand hasn`t been watered down in anyway,

    Of course, i will be happy if the design has seen improvements made to it.
     
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    Nothing certain but there may be enforced changes.
     
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    Thanks Sedgley, maybe some movement then.
     
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    It really just needs a new Steve Bull stand close to the pitch and attached to the existing 2 ends, tho it was pointed out to me that that is not possible.

    The whole thing will be done, remember Jez promised!! He said "it is not a matter of if, but when".

    He would'nt be misrepresenting the choice would he???
     
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    I think it would be possible to make an 'L' shape out of the Steve Bull & NB, make a 1 tier stand in a smaller lower tier corner between SB and Steve Bull. Leave the South Bank as it is. That would give a comfortable 36,000. Maybe make half the bottom tier of the North and south banks standing if possible. Is it really that controversial a law/ safety standard to take so long to change?
     
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    If they built the new Steve Bull straight down (imagine the quadrant being half of the corner so it comes round at the same angle) it will be a lot closer to the pitch (as was the plan) but will therefore overlap by some way the Southbank. In a similar way to how JL1 was lost (and half of WL9 is unsaleable) but with the southbank being a single tiered stand it would stretch a lot further. I'd guess upto 400 seats in the southbank could be lost and it would still look as untidy as it does now.
     
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    As I understand it, that is broadly correct.

    The architectural solution is to raise the back of the South Bank so it becomes a bowl joining the new Steve Bull. Then the corner you are talking about just becomes part of one integrated structure.
     
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    I never understood why a) The large, imposing South Bank terrace was replaced by a relatively small 5,500 all seater stand and b) Why they didn't link it up to the Steve Bull and Billy Wright like the South Bank terrace did, back in the day.
     
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    I think it was partly due to cost, just puttimg a roof over a small concourse on a hill, and also the fact the seats actually cover a large part of the old south bank...as massive as it was, new seated stands cover a large floor area.
    It would've been great if they could've done an 8/10000 size stand.

    I think the problem now is rounding the corners from 2 tier side stands with very small lower tiers into a 1 tier south bank, and having a roof to cover them. It would and could work though.
     

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