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Discussion in 'Molineux Mix' started by Poole Wolf, Nov 7, 2018 at 10:59 PM.

  1. Poole Wolf

    Poole Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    1. The Word Round the Expat Dinner Table yesterday with Man U and Spurs supporters was that we have been sussed out by Premier managers.
    2. I do think we may have to tweak things a bit from now on. Team for Arsenal will be interesting.
     
  2. DEVIZESWOLVES

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    So a bunch of guys living outside the country think they know more than Nuno :D Just think about that for a moment. I reckon I'll stick with Nuno .
     
  4. GoldenHorseshoe

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    I think it's a bit sad when expats get together with other expats. They haven't really come to terms with their emigration.

    "The fish and chips are not as nice as back home are they?"
     
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    You could just as well say that people at a school reunion haven’t come to terms with growing up.
     
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  6. Poole Wolf

    Poole Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    Nonsense we all have Thai wives and are integrated but meet as friends to discuss Politics, Philosophy and Football once a week.
    English, Americans, Canadians, Australians, Danish, Norwegians, Irish.
    The French though go in the German speaking group.
    Not like Spain over here.
    Thai buffet not a chip in sight.
     
  7. Poole Wolf

    Poole Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    We get all the games here. The view is that this is what happens in the Premier League. After an initial flurry teams get sussed out.
     
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    It's true though, they aren't :D
     
  9. Lincoln-WOLF

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    We are the masters of our own downfall atm. It's not like teams are coming up against us and we're being beat in every department.
    We have just not taken our chances, simple as that. Poch didn't look like a manager at the end of that game that had 'sussed us out'
     
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    Teams that have sussed out the opposition don't have their keepers to thank for the three points. Brighton and Spurs' victories both owed a lot to the last line of their defence (and a little to some dodgy officiating)
     
  11. John de Wolf's hairdryer

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    I'm in a state of disbelief that there's a thread about what a bunch of armchair Man U and Spurs supporting expats in Thailand think about what EPL managers may or may not have sussed out about Wolves! For my money their 'thoughts' on the subject have no more validity than whatever it is that the Thai wives would have to say on the subject!
     
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  12. Poole Wolf

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    My Thai wife was a season ticket holder at Molinuex for many years.
    The British expats are football supporters and are a similar age to me, some have played at amatuer level and have been interested and complimentary towards Wolves start this year. I think the views on here are pretty pathatic and highly defensive. I have loved what we have done so far and am 100 percent behind the team and management. Unlike some on here who constantly single out players for criticism. Guys, Dave has gone now.
    The spurs supporter watched the game, mainly due to my interest, and came away dissapointed. He writes books about Thailand and used to lecture on the EU. We are not typical expats here. Soren a Dane with Canadian citizenship tolerates discussion on footie but regales us with stories about being stalked by bears in Canada when he was an electrician repairing runway lighting.
    Your view on expats is embarrassing.
    What annoys me the most is the idea that I would eat anything as disgusting and unhealthy as a chip or a French frie. Neither do I eat bread, rice, pasta or any other refined carbohydrates.
    The discussion was - have we been sussed out and do we need to change. I think we do.
     
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  13. Poole Wolf

    Poole Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    lostinbristol Senior Member

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    I'm very drunk but that made I loff a fair amount
     
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    For what it's worth I don't think we have been 'sussed out'. We have more than competed in every game so far and that's all that really matters to me this season. We haven't yet just not turned up or taken a proper hiding off anyone which loads of the teams below us already have.

    I just want us to compete, every game, and not look out of place up in the big boys league. We'll always lose a few games with such a set system and starting lineup, we did last year. No panic when it's not going our way, no spuffing in your pants too early when it is.

    Just listen to Nuno and keep the faith brothers (and sisters)
     
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    Spot on. In my time I’ve met a fair few and when they congregate in their little groups they come across as bitter miserable *******s.
     
  17. Poole Wolf

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    Poor, read my posts about this.
     
  18. Akaman

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    Being over there though I'm guessing you've seen most of the games on TV? The only side that we've been really abject against was Watford, who yes played a system to stifle what we do but let's not pretend our lads were anywhere near their best, we had four or five not at the races, and that's being kind. While that game started the recent run of three defeats, there's no way on earth Brighton had us sussed. One attempt on target from the home side which came about due to a completely mis-hit shot while we dominated every aspect of the play. Spurs are a very good side, but up until their two goal salvo midway through the first half we were the better side, after it we had a perfectly good goal disallowed then for the second half we completely controlled it, had Spurs fully on the back foot and Pochettino left Molineux a very relieved man.

    To me we haven't been sussed at all, we just have two key positions that aren't firing in the wide forwards, as I've said numerous times.

    It's normal to question things after bad results, but if you look deeper than the results, there's not much pointing to a requirement for imminent major change.

    What do you think needs changing?
     
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    Brighton's and Spurs' victories owed more to Wolves' inability to defend and inability to score (from open play) rather than the last line of defence. Wolves played well in the middle third of both pitches but the common theme of lack of goals and some comical defending were the major contributing factors for "nil points".
     
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  20. Poole Wolf

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    Thanks for the serious comments. Seen most games except only highlights of the Spurs game. It looked to me that we are vulnerable to midfield attackers running past our middle two. We are conceding goals through the middle, not from crosses. The debate is whether Moutinho and Neves are too similar and we need a destroyer or whether alternatively we need an extra man in midfield to do the excellent job MGW did against Spurs.
    There is also an on going debate on whether the left footed Vinagre would be more effective than Jonny. Not a criticism of any players they have all done exceptionally well but if have we indeed been worked out then do we need to mix it up a bit.
    Adama starting is another conundrum.
    My expat friends have followed the Premier League more avidly than most of us and I felt their observations were valid. I have had nothing but praise from them up to now.
     
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    I think I agree with the OP on this, but i don't think it's serious. I think we had an early advantage of others' ignorance which is now over. Said in a different way (and it's only a guess); established Prem teams likely expected us to play as promoted teams do, and like we did in the two prior journeys there. So they maybe didn't do the due diligence like they do when facing established teams. Costly and time-consuming, they probably don't put numerous people to work studying all of last season's games for the team, and newly-purchased players of a promoted club.

    Then, after a few games, opposition managers realize that Wolves ain't like a typical newly promoted club. They can't just turn up and take the points from us. They might lose. So, they have to open the purse strings, bring in their experts, and study us. I don't expect they're doing much of this for Cardiff or Fulham. So, IMO, we get to surprise them at first; they counter later with new intel., then Nuno has to deal with the fact that our play is known. It's all part of the game.

    And ex-pats are fine (I'm one :)). Generally, we all settle very well into our new country (or we wouldn't stay), but it's just nice sometimes to hang with someone from the old-Country to talk football and reminisce about some things that we fondly remember. If I see you walking through San Francisco wearing a Wolves shirt, I'm going to stop you and try for several beers and a curry. :)
     
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    Not sure I agree that we have "been found out". We've played in a similar style for a season and a third now. Just takes the opposition to study a few videos to see our style. We've brought a number of new players in and haven't played them consistently (Dendoncker, Adama and Vinagre to name just 3) so our style and personnel are much the same as last season. Most clubs will have been aware of our style of play from the off so the successful ones have just found a way of negating that style to beat us.
     
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    Poole: "The spurs supporter watched the game, mainly due to my interest, and came away disappointed."

    Now, that really is commitment to your team!
     
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    There is nothing to suss out. If we take our chances that we create there is at least 10 teams that couldnt keep with us.

    Our style of play is fine, its converting the chances thats the issue!
     
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    You don't know what you are talking about
     
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    I lived as an expat for about 10 years, all over the world, and you are talking through your ****.
     
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    It's one thing to suss out a team, it's another thing to stop them. I reckon by now most teams know exactly how Man City are gonna play under Pep, but they still win most weeks because they're so good. Extreme example compared to us I know, but the same idea applies, if we play well we're gonna win more games than we lose, no matter if the opposition know how we'll play or not.
     
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    You’ve set yourself up here Poole I’m afraid.
     
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    I too have lived as an ex-pat for a good deal of my life and here in South Africa I have SA friends as well as Brits, Americans, Dutch and a number of other nationalities. The fish and chips are better here, the beer good but I do miss decent ales and pork scratchings. Not sure if that makes me "sad" or not :D.
    I watch Wolves most weeks now we are in the Prem as every Prem match is shown live on TV. I think the standard of football coverage these days is superb with ultra slo-mo, replays, different angles and a multitude of analysis tools being used. I see more than the people who attend live with just one look at an incident. Of course the atmosphere isn't the same, but any suggestion that ex-pats don't know what we are talking about because we are thousands of miles from Molineux is incorrect.
     
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    IMO Rubbish, Man City hav'nt got sussed
     
  31. Poole Wolf

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    Methinks some of you are not out of short trousers yet.
     
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    People have sussed out how man city play it doesn't make any difference they still can't stop them
    I'll trust Nuno i think.
     
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    They also said the support from the South Bank was rather poor.
     
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    Ahhhhhhhh a wind up merchant too..............frankly I would be more interested in what your Thai brides discuss over the dinner table ;)
     
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    Stats for last two games:

    Wolves v Spurs
    Possession 49% v 51%, Shots 16 v 10, On Target 7 v 8, Corners 5 v 1
    Also denied a definite goal

    Brighton v Wolves
    Possession 40% v 60%, Shots 7 v 25, On Target 1 v 7, Corners 1 v 10
    Also denied a definite penalty

    Other teams may have 'sussed out' how we play, but they sure as hell haven't managed to stop it.
     
  36. E is for idiot.

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    I think you're on the wind up, Poole. You have already explained that one of your mates writes books about Thailand, which means nothing when talking about football. Your other mate doesn't like football, which means his views are pretty worthless. Your other Spurs supporting mate watched the game because of the interest of his Wolves supporting mate. It sounds to me like a group of blokes who aren't into the game offering unqualified opinions. The only game where we have been sussed out is Watford, other than that we have been the better side just with poor finishing. If allowing the other side numerous chances to score and hoping they will miss is sussing a team out then Cardiff and Fulham have sussed out plenty of teams this season.

    Support from the South Bank was poor? How can you tell where the singing was coming from on TV? You're definitely on the wind up.
     
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    They probably watch a lot of games on TV so their views are as valid any one else’s, but to say we have been ‘found out’ is rather lazy analysis, we are creating enough chances but as has been widely discussed we are not taking enough of them, which means we are prone to dropping points if we slip up at the back.
    It is probably more a case of Spurs and Man U fans being relieved that we are not quite the finished article yet so they don’t see us as a threat in the short term.
     
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    Man U fans think they have a god given right to impart football wisdom. And Spurs, **** me. They been in the top flight all these years and what do they have to show for it? Lesser top league wins than us, still! Tell them this: in Nuno we trust!
     
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    Trust Nuno
    Your views are embarrassing
     
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    Regardless of where people live etc, the only people who really understand, or should I say, want to accept what is going on at Wolves, are Wolves fans.

    I have relatives that have season tickets at Derby and Notts Forest. Initially it was the ‘championship experience’ *******s. Then came the cold weather crap. Finally came the cheating with Uncle Jorge myth.

    The reality is this; we have real wealth, real ambition, top players, top coaches, our fan base is revitalised and fans of other clubs are in a state of denial. It’s called fear and jealousy.

    I have learnt to just laugh at fans of these peasant clubs. They are clueless, idiotic and they better get used to the big bad wolf being back.

    The only thing sussed out was Guardiola, Mourinho and Pochettino’s tactics by Nuno.
     

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