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Spurs New Stadium Plans

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by Kenny-11, Nov 24, 2008.

  1. stuj4z

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    looks like a very clever idea. would be interestin g if we got to play in the new 3 quarter completed ground with white hart lane still visible in the corner
     
  2. derbyrameater

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    During phase 1 it will be one hell of a walk to get to the north stand from the seven sisters rd.
     
  3. WolvesAreBoringOnCeefax

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    That's a good idea in principle but would we have enough room around Molineux to start building a new stadium? I've never been to White Hart Lane but from those diagrams they have more space around it than we would, Molineux is almost in a pit so not much room to build I'd expect.
     
  4. PabloWolfo

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    Are cantilever roofs in use on this stadium and if so, has PeteWolf okay'd the design?
     
  5. astraltrader

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    But do we really need to build a new stadium??
     
  6. Chiswick_Wolf

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    Not an entirely new one. But I believe the plans are to dig down and rebuild the Steve Bull. I wonder whether any of that could be done in phases? I mentioned a while ago that West Ham phased the buidling of one of their stands so that they didn't have a massive hit on capacity. Perhaps we could do a similar thing to them or Spurs.
     
  7. Tuco

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    I read somewhere Spurs have been buying up a lot of the property around the lane for sometime now, so they would have a bit more room for manouvre than we do.
     
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    Unless there has been massive demolition IIRC housing comes right up to the north stand, perhaps they have been on a house buying policy like Wolves did for the Molineux st houses..
     
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    I wonder when the wolves chosen plan will be unveiled?
    I can't wait :)
     
  12. Chiswick_Wolf

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    If the redesign was to be based on an existing stadium or stand what would people go for?

    I'd like to see the Steve Bull built to a similar style as the Milburn Stand at St James's Park with corners filled in at the same height as the North and South banks. And keep it nice and close to the pitch.

    http://www.footballgroundguide.com/newcastle_united/photo6.htm

    The stand to the right hand side of the photo.
     
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  13. Pengwern

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    I hope not - too high. We only need 38,000 to 42,000 capacity.
     
  14. Chiswick_Wolf

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    True. Up to the exec boxes is probably the sort of height I would go for. It would also help create atmosphere not splitting the in half like the Steve Bull currently is.
     
  15. simmo

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    Any stand close enough to the pitch to not need binoculars to see the action would suffice for me.

    Or, if the Hoddle era is due for a return anytime soon, a stand facing away from the pitch wouldn't be a bad idea.
     
  16. astraltrader

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    Surely all these excellent plans are liable to be put on the back burner for a while bearing in mind we have still not yet seen the worst of the recession and we are entering a period of general reduction in crowd size for all clubs?

    Assuming the big P becomes reality would we really be able to secure a gate in the region of 38,000+?
     
  17. Chiswick_Wolf

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    Surely any rebuild would be thinking more long term than a few months (hopefully) of recession. I believe it was mentioned that capacity would be such that it was only completely full for the big games rather than regularly full but with no spare capacity for attractive fixtures.
     
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    Its interesting to consider what kind of realistic average crowd figures we would get at Molineux as a moderately successful Premiership side. I reckon around 30,000 on average would be absolute tops, especially in the current economic climate, so do we need an overall capacity much above say, 35,000? Increasing capacity by 7,000 on the current figure shouldn't cost that much surely. I would much rather we saved our pennies for team strengthening over the next few years rather than spending big on the stadium.
     
  19. W01ves

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    A different way of thinking is if as a club we are cash rich and the money is already there for investment to the ground, then surely during a recession is actually the time to buy the required resources a lot cheaper than any other time due to market prices, I would hazzard a guess that Redrow would have a lot to do with the plans too.

    Also surely the best time to redevelop a ground with the least amount of lost revenue and disruption is when attendances are actually temporarily down anyway!
     
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    love to have 40,000 - with corners filled in,and closer to pitch. Atmospehere would be great (when we're winning :) )
     
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    I think this is a good design..
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  22. PabloWolfo

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    I like the idea of dropping the pitch and adding some extra rows in order to increase capacity and get the crowd nearer the pitch. That, and filling the corners in, would surely get the capacity to around the 40k mark.
     
  23. W01ves

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    I like the size of stadium to pitch ratio, although I'm not too sure about the size of the pitch with the little red x on it and it being so far up in the top left hand corner, might contravene certain FA rulings? :D
     
  24. astraltrader

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    That was my point. I absolutely agree with all of what you say.
    In addition to increase the capacity unrealistically would just make the ground feel more empty and reduce on atmosphere at the Mol which bearing in mind is not that great anyway owing to distance from pitch, etc
     
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    It would be great to somehow get the fans closer to the pitch and thus increase atmosphere.
     
  26. WolvesAreBoringOnCeefax

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    Even in this division we sell out at times, and last time in the Prem we were getting capacity crowds often. Obviously (if a next time comes) next time the excitement may be lessened as it's the second time, but still think we'd need more than 35k. What if we did well and in 5 years time were looking to push for a top 8 place? Then we'd get bigger crowds and it'd look stupid that we'd not built a bigger stadium extension... but then you've gotta weigh that up against the chance of getting relegated and having a half full 40+ stadium.
    Basically, it's not my money so I'd like to see us build a new 30k stadium but with the option of adding significantly to each of the stands, so say maybe quite a large bowl effect, but still with expansion potential on top.
     
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    Surely a completely new stadium is overkill as the existing one is only 14 years old?
     
  28. WolvesAreBoringOnCeefax

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    Molineux isn't bad but it's starting to show it's age and if we have ambitions of becoming a Prem team again it might not be big enough for the demand we'd hopefully get.
     
  29. woolee9

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    People keep saying how good Coventry's RICOH Arena is. But anyone that has been there must realise that even with fans as loud as ours there is no atmosphere! I like the square grounds more. I like the idea of St James' with the 3 sides being taller. Could we just extend the Billy Wright, S'bank and N'bank upwards and join them together because I like the shape already.
     

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