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Sir Jack Hayward Stand

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by wmlxb05, Jan 14, 2015.

  1. wmlxb05

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    What's the feeling on maybe renaming one of the tiers of the Billy Wright to the Jack Hayward stand? Wouldn't seem right to rename any of the stands fully but his legacy needs to be honoured.

    I'm sure that separate tiers have different names at other grounds around the country.

    #sirjackhaywardstand
     
  2. RJs Tankard

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    We're quite lucky in that we've got many greats that we can honour by naming stands after - a luxury that most clubs don't have.

    However, it can also cause problems at times like this because, like you, I do agree that he should be honoured - however, it also doesn't feel right to remove the names from other stands to make way for it - and naming half a stand seems a little odd.

    The Billy Wright stand would be the appropriate stand - but Billy Wright is also rightly honoured by a full stand and that needs to remain the case.

    Not sure what the solution is - other than wait until the ground rebuild is complete, and name one of the corners.

    The only downside to that is that we won't see any honours for him before 2036......
     
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    Sir Jack Hayward Molineux?
     
  5. Brightonwolf

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    A Thumbs up statue for me
     
  6. Timberwolf

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    From what I remember, Sir Jack was quite humble and has stated that he wouldn't be keen on a Stand, let alone the Stadium being named after him. I think he was quite happy with the Jack Hayward Suite and training ground. I think it would probably be more fitting to rename the Wolves Community Charity, considering his contribution to Wolverhampton as a whole.
     
  7. giantwolf

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    Dont forget the training ground is already called the Sir Jack Hayward Training ground. A statue would be good.
     
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    Sorry timberwolf.... completely missed you mentioning the training ground.
     
  9. Wolfgang Wolf

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    The stadium wants naming after him - he built it !

    The Sir Jack Hayward Stadium
    Molineux Grounds
    Wolverhampton
     
  10. Timberwolf

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    As much as I hold Sir Jack in such high regard, Molineux and WWFC are so much bigger than one man, and he knew it. He may have redeveloped Molineux but it was there before he was born and will be there long after his sad passing.
     
  11. SedgleyWolf93

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    Another thumbs up here for a statue. It really is a must.
     
  12. Hrothgar

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    What about a statue of him inside the ground perhaps on the South Bank amongst the fans he loved sitting in his blazer with the city crest on it with his thumbs up for ever more. Really has to be something very special doesnt it for such a man as this.
     
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    Sir Jack would not want Molineux renamed either for commercial reasons or to honour his name. I hope the custodians of the club remember this and are never tempted to cash in for a short term gain now that Sir Jack is not around to voice any objections.

    A fitting tribute would be a statue. Billy Wright has got a stand and a statue but it is the statue that brings his memory to life moreso than the stand name. Likewise Stan Cullis.
     
  14. Big Saft Kid

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    I think naming the stands after ANYBODY was a mistake, however great they were. We existed for well over a century before we started doing this, and the result is that now all available stands have been named, what do you do to commemorate subsequent 'great's, whether players, managers or owners? If you rename stands, that's an insult to the memory of the people whose name you removed. Statues? OK, but how many? We've already got a couple at the ground -- enough IMO.

    Let's go back to the North Bank, South Bank, Waterloo Rd and Molineux St and save the club's great players, managers, owners, for a special place in the Wolves museum.
     
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  15. FLEET WOLF

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    I agree, a statue is the best option.
     
  16. I forget where I've read this but he was quoted as saying something along the lines of him not wanting his name on the ground because it's name should always be Molineux and if that were to change he would come back to haunt the ground

    For that reason alone I say no to the name change on the ground, the furthest I would go is renaming the South Bank and erect a statue of him outside the stand.
     
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    I remember Sir Jack saying this about not wanting the ground renaming. I'm sure he said that the naming of 'Jack Hayward Way' was enough of an honour for him.
     
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    Exactly as the above couple of posts. This isn't what SJH would have wanted. He has a road leading to the ground named after him and the training ground. I'm not sure he'd have fancied a statue either. I think he once said that the ground itself would be a suitable legacy.
     
  19. Jonzy54

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    He may not have wanted it whilst he was alive but now is the time to give something back to his memory.He deserves something momentous .
     
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    The club should obviously do something to honour him but as fans I think we should do something to honour him. Maybe a giant flag with 'Jack Haywards Barmy Army' like the old giant Wolves shirt or maybe a banner like the Toaster one on the North Bank.

    All chip in a few quid each and do something to honour the great man??
     
  21. Dewsburywolf

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    Probably reading this wrong so apologies but why would you go against his wishes now that he's no longer with us?

    He's on record as saying that the street up to the ground is enough of a testament to him & then there's the training ground so why give him more with that in mind? A statue I agree would be a fitting tribute even though he's also said that he didn't really want one of those either. Despite his millions he was still a very humble man so why not just respect his wishes?
     
  22. Big Nosed Wolf

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    Correct.

    Molineux is Molineux and known worldwide, locally split into North Bank South Bank ete etc.

    No need to name anything after anybody or anything. Naming after 'greats' becomes meaningless and naming after 'products' a sell out,

    The two statues are fitting as they have been done well and symbolic of a truly great era for the club unlikely to be 'topped' any time soon so further ones will be unnecessary.

    If a statue of SJH were to be, I think somewhere in the centre of town as a mark of his general philanthropy and links to the City.
     
  23. Denpar

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    Please, may I make 3 suggestions?

    1) An electronic score board or other such electronic display within Molineux that would flash up the iconic thumbs up picture whenever we score.

    And/or

    2) If it could be done, display the same picture at the top of the verdict thread on here whenever we win.

    3) If Sir Jack is to be cremated then, with the approval of the family, place some or all of his ashes in a container (in keeping with his status) which could be appropriately fixed to the front of the director's box so that he would always be "watching" the game. Perhaps it could even be draped with a Wolves scarf on match days.

    Simple but, I believe, poignant.
     
  24. Jonzy54

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    I think he would have been embarrassed to have had a stand or statue in his lifetime but that doesn't mean we can't have a statue in his memory.
    I remember Joy Beverley saying Billy would have been embarrassed to see a statue of himself but the family were thrilled that it was erected in his memory and I am thinking along similar lines .
    It needs to be along the lines of the other two wonderful edifices and in an equally prominent position.
     
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    I've just been listening to Rachel Heyhoe-Flint's lovely tribute to Sir Jack and in it she mentions the great bond and love there was between Sir Jack and Billy Wright. What do people think about renaming the stand the

    "Billy Wright and Sir Jack Hayward Stand"?
     
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    I don't understand why statues of anybody around the ground is needed, after all museums are for commemorating those that have been outstanding for the club. a fitting tribute in our museum would be ideal in showing respect for Sir Jack and free entry allowed so people can show their respect for him and the players who we have lost recently.
     
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    100% agree with a flag.and with jack Haywards barmy army ringing out,would be awesome.
     
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    Another who would like to see a statue of him.
     
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    Again, I wish to cause no offence to anyone, but Sir Jack was not a player.
    With this in mind, Sir Jack always sat in the Billy Wright stand [correct me if I am wrong] so what about a sitting statue of him at the top landing on the centre line, so that during games he would still be with us, watching his beloved Wolves.
    I know not all of us would see it, but we would know he was there.
    sorry if you think it sounds daft, just my idea.
     
  30. Manic88

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    What would be good is a banner (like the ones on the outside of the stadium depicting past players) in a position facing the pitch (on one of the TV stands?) of Sir Jack giving the thumbs up at Cardiff with " "Glad to have helped" - Sir Jack Hayward 1923-2015 " underneath
     
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    I'd suggest a large statue on either the corner of the land recently converted into a car park (Peel House), overlooking Wolverhampton and welcoming to Molineux that everyone can see before they arrive at the ground and in general travelling round Wolverhampton. Alternatively, on the strip of land between the two sides of the road just between there and the University building with all the lights on. Did so much for the club and city that seems logical it should be in an area which connects both.
     
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    As has been mentioned by previous posters:

    The Sir Jack Hayward Molineux Stadium.
    Don't name a stand after him, name the stadium!
     
  33. Denpar

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    I also have no wish to cause any offence because we all want to do our best by Sir Jack and we'll all have special memories of him, but I can't see what relevance your post has to my post in particular. I'm quite cool with it and I'm only saying this out of interest. By the way, yours is not a bad idea (subject to practicalities)
     
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    maybe we could get statue on one of the streets around the ground like Sir Jack Hayward Way or similar, need to do something, but agree removing any of the current names form stands doesn't seem right.
     
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    I don't think it's such a bad idea to have a seated statue of him in the stand where he used to watch us as a kid, or as an owner later, if different. I think that could be a fitting tribute if done well.

    The training ground is named after him, so would be the logical spot for a statue outside.
     
  36. Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)

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    A statue by the steps to the South Bank so you see it as you emerge from the
    subway, of the great man clambering under a turnstile for me....
     
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    I think Sir Jack would be mortified if they named the Ground after him. Like someone said Molineux, and being a Wolves fan, is much more than any one man.

    That being said, I do think they should have a statue with the thumbs up from Cardiff, with Sir Jack impeccably dressed in a blazer with the town crest. Personally I would have it next to Billy Wright, who if I am right was his hero?
     
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    Agreed

    Rather than recommending what the club do as a tribute we should do our own tribute as fans. Just like us Sir Jack was a fan who had a large personal fortune and ploughed a huge amount of that into the club. As fans we should show our thanks by coughing up a few quid each for our own tribute. I think the above idea would be a fitting tribute if we could find a permanent home for it within the ground.
     
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    This location would be good....but not that pose!!
    The Premier League promotion celebration pose that has been reused recently would be good though
     
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    statue of sir jack with the plinth modelled as/engraved with a turnstile with a kid crawlling underneath it
    (small enough detail not to detract from the main statue but adding a bit of fun /sense of humour which I'm sure Sir Jack himself would appreciate)
     
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