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SEB and Big Chris

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by A wanderer from Bristol, Nov 25, 2008.

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  1. A wanderer from Bristol

    A wanderer from Bristol Just doesn't shut up

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    For all the brilliance of Mancienne, Stearman and Foley, the wing play of Havoc and Mayhem and the revelation that is WWFC this season surely, surely the key has to be our strike partnership. They are the most potent in the Championship and however badly we play, with these two up front we are always likely to score, and therefore we always have a chance.

    Speaking of which, has anyone got any stats for when big Chris and SEB have started up front together? How often has at least one of them has scored?
     
  2. Ulver

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    *cringes*
     
  3. Super Hans

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    Seconded.
     
  4. A wanderer from Bristol

    A wanderer from Bristol Just doesn't shut up

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    ok you prefer me to say Kightly and Jarvis, point taken each to their own...

    Back on thread... wondering about the percentage of games Big Chris and SEB have started together when at least one of them has scored?
     
  5. WolvesAreBoringOnCeefax

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    I'm sure Deutsch Wolf will know, but I'd guess over 80% of the games, probably getting on for 90. Apart from Kightly no-one else has scored many so most games one of them has scored far as I remember.
     
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    The difference between this season and last is the fact that, no matter how much we are under the cosh, either of these two can pop up with the equaliser or winner. The height Big Chris has brought to the side has made such a difference as well and is so vital to our play. The rate he is going he will be on 20 goals by the New Year and SEB won't be too far behind.
     
  7. A wanderer from Bristol

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    Yeah I was kind of waiting on Deutsch too...

    Actually if Stewarton was about he would know too.. one of the things I love about this site is the collective wolves knowledge and statistical information available
     
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    Can someone please explain to me why Iwelumo has been considered a journeyman up until this point in his career. I'm yet to see him do anything other than give 100%, win 9/10 headers, and hit the back of the net (for us not Scotland :p). He's not become a fantastic player overnight so what the hell has he been doing all these years?!
     
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    Maybe he's finally got a manager who can get the best out of him?
     
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    It'll help that he's had Kightly and for a period Jarvis supporting him, and is alongside SEB. The delivery/attention distracted will let him get on with his job, so far in his career doubt he's played in a front 4 with that much quality. Also guess with age he's got the experience to play better, bear in mind he did really well with Colchester and then well again with Charlton last year (relative to how badly they did on the whole).
     
  11. London Wolves

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    SEB & Big Chris should really be starting the type of hero worship that Bull & Mutch had.
     
  12. I reckon there are parallels between Iwelumo and the Doog. Both have moved around a bit and the Doog only seemed to become notable as a footballer some way into his 30s. Both appear media savvy. Iwelumo seems to take every opportunity to face the media and typically comes out well.
     
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    Which is what I said on my "Is Iwelumo the new Doog" Thread in September. Didn't get many agreeing with me back then mind.
     
  14. I bow to your "Prior Art".
     
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    Yes I can see that Big Chris has the Spirit of the Doog!
     
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    Iwelumo has started 14 games for Wolves - SEB started alongside him in all but one of those games, Accrington in the League Cup.

    In the 13 games they've started together, they have BOTH failed to score on only one occasion - Burnley at home. So in 92.3% of the fixtures in which SEB/Iwelumo have been our starting strike partnership, one (or both) of them has scored.
     
  17. A wanderer from Bristol

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    Bless you Deutsch, I knew you would come up trumps!

    That is one hell of a strike rate and one hell of a partnership. If these guys stay fit and in form then......
     
  18. W01ves

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    I thought of another song for Chris to the tune of Kings Of Leon - Sex On Fire:

    Chris can't stop scoring, goals for the Wanderers
    He'll get us up there, us up there...
    To the Premier, where we belong
    We can just taste it, taste it...
    Oh Chris Iwel-uuuuuumooooo, our Chris is on fire!!!
    Oh Chris Iwel-uuuuuumooooo, our Chris is on fire!!!

    <Proceeded by lots of air guitar, if you know the song you'll understand! :D>
     
  19. jlovatt

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    Could they, hypothetically speaking, cut it in the Premier League?
     
  20. Deutsch Wolf

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    Impossible to say. There are players I (and many others) would have backed to do well in the PL who haven't (David Nugent, for instance), there are others who were written off as journeymen who did very well (Marcus Stewart, for a while, even the likes of Marlon King look perfectly acceptable at the right club, and he was woeful for Forest).

    What I do know is that neither would be lacking in effort. SEB will, in my opinion, definitely make an impact in the PL and end up playing for England (not necessarily as a regular, but as a better version of the likes of Darren Bent who make the squad now).
     
  21. Mugwump

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    If we have Havoc and Mayhem on the wings, have we got shock and awe up front..........i`ll get my coat.
     
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    Havoc and mayhem is almost as cringeworthy as the following terminology: blouse (instead of blues) manure and the worst of the lot, notloB (especially ridiculous when posters make the effort to capitalise the final letter). Simply pointless. Back to the football, the partnership up front is a critical component of a successful team and although a team can still be relatively successful when their front pairing play more as individuals than partners, they will rarely pull you out of a hold like these two have the capacity to do. Mick hasn't been afraid to move strikers on quickly and has to be commended for this, as no rule seems to dictate the chemistry of strike partnerships and not being afraid to chop and change til you see something has ultimately worked in our favour.
     
  23. Kenny-11

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    Am I right in saying that is Monty Pythons fault
     
  24. One thing that strikes me about Big Chris is how bloody good a finisher he is. Before he joined, I thought he was a good signing due to his height and heading ability, and with Kites and Jarvis's service, could do a job.

    His 2 goals last night and his first on Saturday show he's a quality, quality striker.

    We are very, very fortunate to have him.

    And that SEB chap isn't bad, either, is he?
     
  25. sy king

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    There's a bloke behind me.. He despises SEB, the whole game just slags him off how hes $$$$, he lightweight and he cant hold a ball up, every 2 minutes hes telling him to get his fat $$$$ on the bacon slicer... (Hes in row EE, SL5 if you fancy laughing in his face)
     
  26. Dr Wolfenstein

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    Nob lot is better.
     
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    Lightweight?!!!!
     
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  28. The best partnership since Bull and Mutch, a real class act.
     
  29. sy king

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    you couldnt make it up...
     

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