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Scott Sinclair

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by Very Proud (AKA Still Proud), Dec 16, 2008.

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  1. Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)

    Very Proud (AKA Still Proud) Prouder than a proud thing in Proudville

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    SSN report that we are "after" Scott Sinclair.

    Source - the Daily Express - though can't find it on their web site yet
     
  2. Broseleywolf

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    It was on the BBC gossip bit, also. Says Blues want him as well.
     
  3. Dorset DeWolf

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    would be a fantastic signing, great pace and can play upfront or on either wing, presume it would only a be a loan deal though
     
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    Yep, would be a tremendous signing, but now Jarvis is back he knows he'll face a difficult battle for a first XI start which may be a little off-putting in comparison with what other interested parties have to offer.
     
  5. Broseleywolf

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    What do people think about Chelsea allowing two loan signings to go to the same club? I remember Aresenal letting Blues have Larson and Bentnar a few seasons ago. However, some clubs are reluctant to let two youngsters go to the same club (as they might lead each other astray). I'm not sure if having Mancienne will work for us or against us when Chelsea are deciding who to loan Sinclair to.
     
  6. Sozzled Wolf

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    I think the very fact Mancienne is earning rave reviews and getting international recognition is proof that Wolves would be a good option, but as said before it's first team availability that might prove to be a sticking point.
     
  7. Broseleywolf

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    Mick could always tell Chelsea that he will get first team starts. They might believe him, as Mancienne went straight into the team and has stayed there.
     
  8. Isn't this "Scott Sinclair is amazing" talk a little bit of a myth?
    I mean, what has the guy *actually* achieved?

    Bristol Rovers - App 2 - Goals 0
    Chelsea - App 5 - Goals 0
    Plymouth - App 15 - Goals 2
    QPR - App 9 - Goals 1
    Charlton - App 3 - Goals 0
    Crystal P - App 6 - Goals 2


    Not bad but not amazing and I’m not so sure why everyone has this pre-conceived opinion that he'll come here and bang them in...? That said, we DO need cover for the wings, and of the available options out there for a loan move in January, he is certainly 'up there'.
     
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    I tend to agree,i think it all stems from those two exceptional goals he scored for Plymouth.
     
  10. PabloWolfo

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    Jarvis was hardly banging them in before his injury...
     
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    stats can easily be manipulated, look at heskeys goal record over the last few years but he has still managed to get back in the england starting 11 ahead of michel owen
     
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    Would be a good loan move and free up funds to be spent elsewhere hopefully. He has electric pace but not so sure about the rest of his game. Nevertheless should be highly effective at Championship level and a possible long term signing perhaps if we go up.
     
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    Along with Muamba and maybe Djourou?
     
  14. How is listing the facts 'manipulating' anything?
    If the guy comes here, plays on the wings and sets up 20 goals then brilliant. I just don't understand why people think this guys amazing without any real 'proof' to back it up? I'll have a guess though - Is it because he scored against us for Plymouth and people tend to rate players who have scored good goals against us?
     
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    no that is not the reason, its having watched him on a few occasions for palce and chelsea reserves, and i was saying that stats and figures don't always mean anything, in fact considering he plays on the wing most of the time i don't really see his goal record has any relevance whatsoever, like you so rightly said, it doesn't list his assists does it
     
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    Probably more to do with the fact that he is just on the fringes of the Chelsea set up and getting the odd game. Jarvis and, even Kightly, would not achieve that so it would be a good signing.
     
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    We're spoilt that Kightly has an eye for goal and even then it is only because he comes inside so much - Jarvis prefers to stay out on the wing so therefore won't be on the score sheet half as much.
     
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  18. Ok. So you've seen him for Palace and Chelsea reserves - Thats one person. Now how many of the others suggesting he'd be an amazing signing have seen him regulary?

    Look. I'm not suggesting he wouldn't be a good addition. I tend to be of the opinion he is 'up there' in the list of people available for a possible loan move and we should certainly look at him. My question is, why are people getting so wet in the pants about him? Without having an 'assist total' to hand (and it appears no one else does either) how can people get so excited?

    Everytime a thread crops up on here about signing/loaning a player, Scott Sinclairs name is on it. And i want to know why. Now are you going to answer the question?
     
  19. yammer

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    I think there are two schools of thought, there are people who think he must be good solely because he plays for Chelsea (well lets face it, their reserves/youths will generally be better than ours although there will always be exceptions) and there are others who take the complete opposite view and massively overinvest in their view that they won't be good (Mancienne is gash) spurred on in my eyes largely because they disagree so much with how the other people have reached their conclusion. My take is that 5 goals in 40 games is very good for a winger although that would not be primarily what he would be brought in to do. Anyway, he's highly rated by people in the game and has looked lightening quick when i've seen him so would be a great addition to our squad.
     
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    He wouldn't be an amazing signing. But on loan would be a sensible one at this stage. He is not good enough for the Chelsea matchday 16 but has some experience at Championship level and at times has played exceptionally well. He could certainly make a serious challenge for a place on the wing and that is what we need. But he is still young and learning the game. His pace is undoubted, his decision making still shaky perhaps. The question is whether it would be wiser to sign someone more experienced like Edwards on loan, assuming he might be re-available in January. Either would do imv but Sinclair in the longer term could possibly be worth purchasing if he performs, and if Chelsea are willing to let him go.
     
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    Not to fussed about Sinclair, Routledge would of been the better option IMO. I'd love to see us sign Watson in Jan too.
     
  22. NathanP100

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    spotted this in the gossip column as well

    Cardiff and Crystal Palace will fight it out for Watford midfielder Jobi McAnuff, who has been told he can leave the cash-strapped Hornets in January for £1m. (Daily Mirror)

    don't think he'd be a bad option either
     
  23. Super Hans

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    I think Sinclair would be a good signing. He's not proven too much yet, but has got enough raw talent and if there is anything Mick has proved so far is that he is very strong at developing a lot of young players at Wolves. He won't start ahead of Jarvis or Kightly but having him on the bench will make them change up a gear occasionally and when they do have a poor game we can freshen things up with him.
     
  24. Super Hans

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    I would have wanted him a few weeks back, but having read some Watford fans opinions of him lately I'm not sure he would be too good an influence in our close knit squad.
     
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    Statistically if no-one has stats of his assists and overall performance ratings etc then it's impossible to definitively say one way or another if he'd be a nailed-on success.

    I like others am going on purely what I've seen of him, and that's at least half a dozen games when he's looked threatening every time. Pace to burn and very skillful.

    Based on that I believe he'd be a great acquisition.

    And no stats in the world, no matter how good, will guarantee success. Players like Shevchenko spring to mind.
     
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    Don't think I have ever seen him play.....

    He is at Chelsea, though that does not guarantee he is better than what we have.

    I'll trust MM if he gets him he is good enoigh for me
     
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    He was brilliant against us a few seasons ago. I think it was the first home game against Plymouth. I have a feeling that he got two (certainly one) goal that day and it ended two a piece. He was pretty unstoppable on the left that day. I've always been a fan of his since then although he seems to have stagnated rather than kicked on. Perhaps playing in a better side would pull out some of his qualities again though. Carlos Edwards quickly became a much better player after a few games with us. I think he'd be a very good signing and would get at least 20 mins each game as I don't think Jarvis will be risked for a full 90 mins for quite a while yet and Kites is being rested more often in games than he used to be.
     
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    Because you are displaying a severely limited selection of facts. Derrrr.
     
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    I'd rather have Carlos Edwards back.
     
  30. Provide the rest then and i will stand corrected.
     
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    I can't be arsed. There are liars, damned liars, and then there are webmongs who peddle stats to further their own particular argument.

    Why don't you include, for example, how many assists he has gotten?
     
  32. Because i'm "not a webmong who peddle stats to further" my own argument. ;)

    I asked a simple question, where did the great "myth" come from that Scott Sinclair would be a brilliant addition to our squad?

    Not difficult. As yet, i've seen a few reasoned posts from others but no "facts" to back it up. Like others have said though, facts and stats can only go so far. Get him in a Wolves shirt and see how good he is is what i say, but there's nothing wrong with wanting to know where all the 'hype' came from.
     
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  33. yammer

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    Its pretty obvious where the hype came from really though isn't it? He's a highly rated young player from arguably the best team in the country, he plays in a position where we lack depth, is known to have bags of pace and comes with Championship experience. Why wouldn't he be a great addition?
     
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    The keystone of your argument was that 'he doesn't score goals so he's gash'. For a winger, that strikes me as a miscalculation of Del Woppian proportions. I'm asking you, as you were so keen to point out that the 'facts' support your argument, how many assists he has in his career (assists arguably being a far more important stat for a winger). I genuinely don't know, (and I'm curious now), for now I'm just pointing out how fundamentally flawed your argument is.
     
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    Wrong thread proudwolf?
     
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    Oops!
     
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    So well put that it saves me the bother of composing my own!
     
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    Too bleeding logical for this place yammer. :rolleyes:
     
  40. At last!
     

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