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Safe Standing

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by Sedgley Gold N Black, Feb 16, 2015.

  1. Sedgley Gold N Black

    Sedgley Gold N Black Just doesn't shut up

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    A recent survey suggests 96% of fans back the idea of Safe Standing as the Independant Football Ombudsman tells the gov't their rules are no longer enforceable.

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9717624/a-new-report-reveals-96-of-football-fans-back-safe-standing

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/feb/16/safe-standing-areas-football-stadiums-fans

    Also a special mention to a Swansea Director for getting behind the campaign and suggesting the TV money should be used to help the fans out.

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/feb/16/safe-standing-areas-football-stadiums-fans
     
  2. StefanWolves

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    Interestingly the Conservatives in Wales have put it in writing that they'd support Safe Standing
     
  3. Rhoswolf

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    Struggle to understand how anyone could oppose it, as they still have the choice to sit in other areas. The only people who object are those who want to exercise their choice, whilst denying others theirs.
     
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    The Lib Dems have also claimed it will be part of their 2015 manifesto.
     
  5. BrummieNick

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    It's coming far to slowly but it's coming. It'll be in most grounds within 7 to 10 years IMO.
     
  6. 1972 i began

    1972 i began Just doesn't shut up

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    i want them in the south bank within the next couple of years please jez.before i'm 65.
     
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    Standing in the South Bank anyway isn't it? Certainly is where I stand in SL1, but likely to need a zimmer-frame in the next couple of years:rolleyes:.
     
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    & the last 2 posts are exactly the reason why the SB has lost it's zing ;)
     
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    Probably so but still manage to out sing most of the "youngsters" round and about me. How I wish it were different and today's younger generation could produce the intimidating atmosphere for away teams that existed in the past. Not down to just all-seating there is just no longer the passion amongst many fans who are more interested in their mobile than the game.
     
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    Old gits u need to sing
     
  11. Mr Wolf

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    I'd say it's more down to policing & CCTV rather than mobiles & all seater stadiums. The ever increasing average age of the football crowd doesn't help either. There probably was a time when these people used to sing & jump about but now some of them can hardly handle 30 mins without a $$$$ let alone get half a dozen mates together & go off it at the match.
     
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    The team on the pitch can help that though, the football we play at the moment is slow and boring, if it was fast and attacking I doubt that so many would be interested in their mobile phones.
     
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    Not fussed.

    Wouldn't make any difference to atmosphere. People already stand.

    Why is a rail in front of you going to make you open your mouths?
     
  14. 1972 i began

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    The rails are there to make it safer,its not bloody safe when you have seats there that you should be sitting on.and i will invite any youngster to stand by me and i will show you buggers how to sing,i might be 62 but i will give yow lot a run for ya money anyday,cum on me babbies.
     
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    If the bicycle saddles they had in the Wedlock Stand at Ashton Gate qualified as seats, I can't see why the metal seats provided in the rail seating system don't meet the requirements. Like with the seats at Ashton Gate, the club is providing you with a seat and you'd simply choose not to sit in it. The police won't arrest you for it, and the stewards can't realistically force 2,000+ people to sit down.

    The clubs would have to cope without doubling seat assignments up for a year or so, but they would manage.
     
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    I thought Brizzle City were putting standing areas into their new ground/ redeveloped ashton gate, but doesn't look like it now.

    I think we should copy the germans, safe standing at both ends and in the away end because they all stand anyway.

    You could potentially fit a lot more people into grounds that are too small in the wrong places i.e the south bank/ Liverpool's kop, without spending loads on soulless bowls miles from the pitch. Wont happen obviously, clubs want the demand to be more than supply, and the shiny seats look nice on corporate adverts.
     
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    As soon as "safe standing" is legalised, they'll rip the seats out of the new East End/Wedlock Stand. The East Enders won't sit down whether they're given seats or not.

    Colourful banners and flags would look even better in our literature, but the moaners/health and safety killjoys won't let that happen either.
     
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    Edgmond Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season Runner Up 2011-2012

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    This in Spades
     
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    I am for safe standing despite the fact there would be cracked heads all over the place when goals are scored?
     
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    nothing new there for us owd cow shed boys,
     
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    It still won't affect atmospheres unless your allowed to stand wherever you want and aren't given a designated spot to stand in. If that happened might as well just keep the seats.
     
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    that is a good point: if the "singers" are still dispersed amongst the crowd it can make it tricky to get things going.

    however i could never see footy authorities or the police agreeing to a crowd being able to mix in and mingle where-ever (still segregated obviously). heck, am atmosphere might even break out :D
     
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    Unreserved areas that are closed to enter once full I think that's how they do it in Germany. And I don't think they'll be able to enforce people not going into to different rows like that can seats now.
     
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    They do, just not in the top two leagues. I stand on a terrace every other Saturday.
     
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    true, true: good point. Guess I was thinking about the top divisions only

    do you go to watch Chesters games? there was a doco on TV here recently about following some Rochdale fans and they went to chester for a game looking for aggro. was kind of sad given they were all well into middle age :D
     
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    Dingles them Rochdale fans.pmsl.
     

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