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Redknapp in for Hennessey?

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by Marauding Wolf, Nov 22, 2008.

  1. I know this has been talked about a lot with our embarrassment of goalkeeping riches, but I just read an article in The Guardian that says Redknapp is 'understood to have enquired about a possible transfer for Wolves Wayne Hennessey'.

    I know initially a lot of talk was about a transfer fee for Wayne being worth it, if it paid for Mancienne. However, with that option looking increasingly remote, I wonder what MM, Moxey and Morgan might have said to such an enquiry?

    Even if Mancienne isn't a possibility, I wonder if Mick would prefer to strengthen elsewhere (the flanks perhaps) given the ability of Ikeme and Murray?

    I would imagine it would be a big pull for Wayne himself as there's every chance he'd go straight into the first team.
     
  2. Super Hans

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    If the price was right (i.e. £6m+) and if we knew that Murray would never be out injured for longer than two weeks at a time again in the future I'd definately sell as Murray is far superior than Hennessey in my opinion and Ikeme's not exactly bad. But it really all depends on Murray's fitness for me, add to this Ikeme's fitness issues in the past it leaves McCarthy in a tricky situation. There is no way we can keep all three happy.
     
  3. northnorfolkwolf

    northnorfolkwolf Just doesn't shut up

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    I really would not want to be in Management's position if Spurs came in with a significant bid. You find some players are injury prone and MM is regretably one of those.
    Have we another young blade to come in as no 3 if WH went?
     
  4. Bilston_Wolf

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    I see the flaw in the plan
     
  5. It's interesting really, as NNW says it's a difficult decision for management but the more I think about it the more I think Hennessey may to some extent take the decision out of their hands.

    Spurs seem to be on the up and there really would seem every chance that he would go straight in as number 1. That's got to be a hell of draw when you're not even guaranteed first team starts in the Championship.

    MM must also be thinking how many players have that kind of sale value who aren't actually in my starting 11 anyway?
     
  6. derbyrameater

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    Hennessey has already shown he is prepared to move for football so I wouldn`t be surprised if he went.
     
  7. Wolv3nsam

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    I don't recall Hennessey saying he wanted to move? He has openly stated he is fighting for the jersey at Molineux and Mick has said that none of the three goalkeepers will be sold this transfer window.
     
  8. Mugwump

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    We shouldnt sell him, we dont need to sell him and he is under contract. I know its been said before, but gordon went to sunderland for 9 million and wayne is as good as he is. Hennesey is only 21 and has got 7-8 years before he reaches his peak years, which is a long time to work on the weaker areas of his game like commanding his area. If spurs offer 10 million plus addons, then we should take it. We are in a strong position with hennesey, so we should tell spurs its silly money for wayne, or naff off.
     
  9. Powelly

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    I'd sell him if we get an offer of £6m or more

    Ikeme has already proved he is good enough for our current level, and we all know that if Matt Murray didnt have glass legs then he'd be England's number 1 by now
    (and wouldnt be at wolves still)

    Yes there's the argument that we dont need the money, but realistically putting that money into the rest of the side would really benefit us when we have 3 quality keepers on the books. Strengthening our hand in key areas in january will be the key between finishing second or third as i have no doubt that both Blues and Reading will be strengthening in Jan.
     
  10. harriswolf

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    Perhaps we don't need the money - but then we don't need 3 good keepers either :)

    The only fly in the ointment is that both Murray and Ikeme have suffered long spells of injury :(
     
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  11. Wolv3nsam

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    If we were to get rid of a keeper, it would be Ikeme for me. Hennessey has more potential than him IMO.
     
  12. NathanP100

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    Spurs paid £7.8m for Gomes, anything less than this for Hennessey would be daylight robbery
     
  13. Japan Wulf

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    From what I've seen of Gomes, if he's worth £7.8m Hennessey must be worth 78.
     
  14. fullmoon

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    I do hope it's not the Yen:D
     
  15. Japan Wulf

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    The way the pound is sinking like a rock you might be wishing it was ;)
     
  16. fullmoon

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    :D:eek:
     
  17. northnorfolkwolf

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    The more this Gomes $$$$s up week in week out the more likely a bid will come in
     
  18. wolfie smith

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    if they were to launch a bid come january are there any spurs players we could exchange who'd come here? if we cant get mancienne would gardner be good enough?
     
  19. Axle

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    I'd like to see a deal for Mancienne in place before we sell Hennessy.

    Therefore, I can't really see us selling him.
     
  20. Atlas 1951

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    Why not let him go to a Premier club on loan? Ikeme and Murray is more than sufficient quality for this division and if we have an injury we just recall him.
     
  21. cooper_J

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    You have to look at it logically.

    If we were to sell Ikeme we'd get maybe a million for him at very most. If we sell WH we'd get in excess of £4 million (at the very least), which can then be re-invested either in the first team or the academy.

    You won't keep Murray and WH both happy and they both can't play. From what I've seen Ikeme is more than capable of at least being number two - he just doesn't come with the hype that WH does.

    Murray is by far and away the best keeper on our books and I'd be more than happy with Ikeme as back up if/when he gets injured. If we get a good offer for WH I'd have no qualms in selling him - I think he's a good keeper but we're going to have to lose one of them and he's the most sellable.
     
  22. Agreed on all counts - Hennessey is an excellent shot stopper, but his command of his area leaves alot to be desired, and this isn't necessarily something that comes with experience (Hennessey has played around 75 first-team games in his career, Murray has only played around 90)

    Wayne has recieved alot of recognition, hugely helped by his performances for Wales. He will make a very good keeper, but whether or not (on a level, injury-free playing field) he could be as good as Murray is doubtful.

    I think he is the most over-rated out of the three keepers - not a slight on his ability at all, but Ikeme doesn't seem to get nearly as much credit as Wayne does, and in all honesty I'm not convinced Hennessey is so far ahead of him.

    If we had to sell one of the three, it should definately be Hennessey as he would get us the most money (hopefully in a similar region to the fee commanded by Craig Gordon, who isn't exactly a world-beater).
     
  23. astraltrader

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    If we get a firm offer for him from Spurs, I think Wayne will very quickly get unsettled here if he is not allowed to move or is not given his place back. I know I would be if in his position.
    Also the longer he goes without regular football the greater the chance will be of [a] losing his place in the Wales team and his worth on the transfer market starting to drop.

    It is only my opinion but ask £6M with a bottom line of £5M...


    What about all those wally`s on here who said that Mancienne was worth £2/£3M tops.

    When I said he had to be worth £5M+ only one person had the wisdom to agree.

    I know Chelski say they aren`t going to sell - but if our season finishes in the same style that we are enjoying now hope that we really test their resolve...
     
  24. Wolv3nsam

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    Might be a problem there considering Gardner plays for Hull.
     
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    Gardner went to Hull in the summer I think.
     
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    The Currant Bun's got the same story in it too. Any offer above 6m and I'd sell.
     
  27. Salisbury Wolf

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    Given the current form of the team I'd imagine all three are thinking we're probably going up this season, so I see it maybe playing out like this. All three will still be here come January but Wayne will probably go at the end of this season if we don't make it, and Matt stays injury free.

    If we make the Prem and in January it looks as if we're going to do OK I think Matt will get sold to a decent Championship side.

    If it looks like we're in trouble then Wayne will be sold on and Matt will come back to the Championship with us.

    Of course all of this blows up if Matt becomes lame once again :(
     
  28. Atlas 1951

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    I agree with Salisbury that the club won't sell in January unless Wayne starts getting stroppy to the papers etc., and I've no reason to suspect that will be the case apart from unsubstantiated rumours about his attitude earlier in the season. The less done to rock the boat the better, and Steve Morgan is not going to let six million quid distract him from the much bigger prize at the end of this long season.
     
  29. Wolv3nsam

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    Ikeme's contract ends at the end of this season if I recall correctly, it will be interesting to see how long his new contract is.
     
  30. cooper_J

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    No matter what league we are in, why would we sell Murray? We all know he is our best keeper but because of his injury record we will never get the sort of fee he is worth.

    The fee we would get for him would never replicate his true value, so why sell?

    Plus, I know it is only conjuncture but Murray is much more than a Championship goalkeeper. He wouldn't leave us unless he was moving upwards to a bigger club.

    How come you haven't accounted for Ikeme? Do you just see him as long term number 2 or do you not rate him?
     
  31. Salisbury Wolf

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    I haven't seen Ikeme play cooper, but I think Matt will command a higher price than Ikeme. I agree, Matt is an outstanding keeper, but his injury problems have left him on the sidelines. Without a doubt had he stayed injury free then he wouldn't be here and would be first choice England keeper. My assumption is that Ikeme is keeping his place, so is doing everything right and has years ahead of him to improve, the same with Wayne. In a few years, will Matt be the best keeper we have?
     
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    What a lot of fuss about nothing. We won't be selling Hennessey in January nor should we even dream of doing so unless we get a crazy bid by which I mean £9m/£10m. I'm not going through all the obvious arguments yet again. If our club is going to make itself a force again we MUST keep our best players. Murray unfortunately is one injury away from the possible end of his career. He's a great goalie but his fragility is a massive liability. Ikeme is a rookie with another poor injury record who happens to be doing well in a winning team. Please no more so and so wants Hennessey its so boring. We have the money to reinforce if necessary.
     
  33. Atlas 1951

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    Nobody will pay anything for Matt Murray, Salisbury.
     
  34. Apologies if already mentioned but I noticed Man City have permission to loan a goalie due to Joe Harts injury. Wasn't Wayne a trainee there? If it was Tottenham vs Man City round the table I would expect a 'serious' money transfer to be the outcome.

    It was reported recently that City had offered £63m for Buffon from Juve. I would imagine they could test Morgan with something special, surely 10-15% of that amount would be worth a bet for city. I also think dropping him has also massively increased the chances of us letting him go if any big money was offered.
     
  35. Wolv3nsam

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    Well said.
     
  36. Mugwump

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    It would be really stupid to sell hennesey. Murrays injury problems will probably always be there, and ikeme is out of contract in the summer. If he doesnt sign and Matt gets injured again we are trouble in the GK department. If Wayne does leave then it will be at the end of the season, unless we get a silly money offer beforehand.
     
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    I'm tempted to say that I think Ikeme's a better keeper than Hennessey: he just hasn't saved a penalty against the Albion.
     
  38. haden-wolf

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    come on carl sign a new contract you know it makes sense
     
  39. Edgmond Wolf

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    We have three great goalies that I hope we can keep hold of, however the longer Ikeme holds onto the shirt (by merit) the more I think Hennessey will look at other options
     
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    Anybody think that Gunter & Bale have been having a few words with Wayne and 'Arry recently?

    Not that I'd want us to sell Wayne but having 2 of his International team mates at White Hart Lane might just give Tottenham a bit of an extra impetus in signing Wayne.
     

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