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Patricio

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix' started by Jamwolf, Dec 1, 2018.

  1. Jamwolf

    Jamwolf Has a lot to say

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    I’m wondering if Patricio is all that he’s cracked up to be. Last night’s first goal was embarassing, but let’s be honest there have been plenty of other goals where he could have done better.

    It wouldn’t bother me at all if Ruddy started against Chelsea.
     
  2. Perton Wolf

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    Ruddy isn't the answer, he made plenty of mistakes last season that people are seemingly forgetting.

    Patricio is a definite upgrade.
     
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    Would you like to list the plenty of other goals he could have done better? Last time I asked this I didn't get a response. I would argue though that without him we'd have been 1-0 down against Man City, 2-0 down against Man United, 1-0 down (at least) against West Ham and wouldn't have beaten Palace.

    Been told that Paterson blocked him off for the goal tonight, not seen it on the TV but I'll have a look at some point over the weekend. I still think he should have done better, but I'm pretty certain that Ruddy isn't the answer
     
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  4. those were the days

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    His shot-stopping and reactions are great. The best I can remember at Wolves in the last 30-odd years including Murray

    He doesn't come off his line well that's true, but Ruddy isn't much better at that either. He's an upgrade for sure

    Caught in no-man's land tonight but, that said, wasn't helped by his defence who didn't take responsibility for dealing with the up-and-under. Ironically, if he'd challenged with more power and fouled Paterson, a foul would have likely been given in his favour I reckon.
     
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    One of the top 10 goalkeepers in European football and people are questioning him because he made an error.
    Allison for Liverpool, Kepa for Chelsea already made a couple each, it is what keepers do.
    We are lucky to have Patricio here
     
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    Top 10 bit of a stretch pal

    But yes, he is one of the better keepers in Europe and above wolves current position
     
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  7. RuncornWolf

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    Whilst he is better than Ruddy on the whole, Ruddy organises the defensive line better and relays what he wants to Coady which I don't see Rui doing. We would be much stronger at the back if he spoke to the defence more during games, making adjustments to help him.
     
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    Patterson block is a foul in a lot of European countries but not in England.
     
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    And rightfully so IMO, very little in it.
     
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    Top 10 goalkeepers in Europe? Come on.....
     
  11. Jamwolf

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    In recent weeks, the Arsenal equaliser and the Huddersfield second.
     
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    Patricio should have jumped into him and then flopped. Free kick for sure.
     
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    Agree - he should have done better with the Arsenal cross and his lining of the wall for 'udder's second was poor even allowing for Neves' cowardice.
     
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    Yes he should have done better with the first but so far I seen threads about him,Costa and also Nuno out.Are we going to have threads about everyone?
     
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    Most foreign keeps struggle at times during their first season, remember Da Gae when he first came over? Now the worlds best?
     
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    Being an ex keeper he was blocked and shoved to one side. I would have expected a foul to have been given.
     
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    Two mistakes. Don’t panic
     
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    I still don’t understand how their first isn’t a foul.

    Their lump of a forward takes two looks at Patricio and just blocks him off. It’s a decision that keepers get 9.9 times out of 10.
     
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    He was absolutely blocked for their first. I said it at the time, but is extremely rare thats let go in todays game. I'm not blaming our current issues on bad luck, but there is no doubt a lot decisions have gone against us lately.
     
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    I think he has been generally a bit off it since the first international break.
    There are a lot of long shots going in at the moment and not many saves.
     
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    He's not playing at the standard we need and has made more game changing mistakes than saves. I can't see Ruddy is the answer but it is a concern.

    Likely psychological. We saw a few of the foreign guys struggle as winter kicked in last year and it looks like the same is happening to Patricio, Moutinho and Jimenez this season. Patricio in particular has a lot of baggage given the mess over his transfer.
     
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    Patrico has to improve his kicking, but apart from that he has been excellent - except twice. And one of those was a blatant foul on him.

    When a keeper costs a goal, he is crucified all season long.

    When somebody misses forty chances over a season, nobody bats an eyelid. If they do they are widely lambasted - *cough* Bonatini Costa Raul *cough*

    This is why keepers have to be ever so slightly unhinged to choose to be one.
     
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    Probably doesn’t trust the players in front of him anymore and in turn his performances have also dropped.

    No surprise really though we have some championship/prem relegation standard players still in the squad and some of them featuring regularly
     
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    Spoken like an ex keeper :D
     
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    It was a foul, not bothered what pundits or anyone else say, Paterson looks at him twice then purposely blocks him off, zero intention of challenging for the ball, this isn't American football.
     
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    Short memories. People were calling for ruddy to be dropped and time for NORRIS last year.

    Before last night we had the joint best defensive record outside the top 5 so NO Patricio doesn’t need dropping. Get a grip
     
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    For me, it wasn't a foul on Patricio last night for the first, he started to come, almost saw he was going to be blocked and went back, if he had carried on towards the ball I think he would have got the foul for blocking (IMV - as pure opinion)
     
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    100%, burst through the players, if you don't make it , its always a free out for the keeper.
     
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    I was going to add...is this the same Patricio who has been outstanding in other games? It is the keepers lot, you either look great or **** up, no in between. The goal is either saved or not. All things being equal he has done more good for us than bad.
     
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    I thought at the time it was Patricio's mistake, but also his defence was nowhere to be seen. In hindsight I can see it probably was a foul, but bloody hell it was a poor one to concede.
     
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    Rui not been at his best in the last 2 but then again who has? Only Coady probably.

    Rui has won us points this season. West Ham, Man City & Man U games spring to mind. Think we would have lost those games with Ruddy between the sticks.
     
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    definite foul for their first in my opinion,ad said Patterson had looked for rui then gone into him with no intention of playing the ball, in fact the ball wasn't there ..and wasn't ending up in that space, to even be challenged, so his only intention was to prevent rui making any attempt to get to a position to attempt to claim the ball.
    That said, it was poor positioning from the keeper and he didn't look like he wanted to move towards the ball anyway.
     
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    Foul or no foul, Rui with his arms outstretched is 3 feet taller than Paterson. Had he jumped, he should have been able to punch the ball away before Morrison could head it on. If Rui comes, he HAS to win the ball. He decided to half come, felt a touch and half retreated. Caught in 'no-man's land'. Poor mistake for a keeper of his experience imo.
     
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    yes he's made a couple of mistakes, but on the whole he's not were the problem has been in our poor performances.
     
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    Yes, three Cardiff players left in the clear! Because three of ours all ignore them and run back to the goal line instead. If Patricio had brushed against Paterson, you can guarantee he would have collapsed like a sack of spuds because the slimy cheating turd has been doing it all match. And that would have been a penalty.
     
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    Never a foul in a million years.
     
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    It wasn’t brilliant but he only had to come because the entire defence had vacated the area where the ball was going to drop. If one of the back three were with Morrison he wouldn’t have had a decision to make.
     
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    Probably alone in this but I’ve had doubts about him all season. He’s made some excellent saves no doubt, but he should have done better with Everton’s second and he’s been beaten by shots from the edge of the box v Leicester, Man U, Watford where he didn’t even dive, Huddersfield x 2 and Cardiff. Add to that he let one tamely underneath him v Spurs, and his refusal to command his box from aerial balls in cost us goals v Everton, Man City, Tottenham and again last night.

    His distribution is very poor too. At this moment I don’t think he is adding anything more than ruddy would, Nuno will never drop him though
     
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    You’re not alone.
    But be prepared that he is a Portuguese International and made great saves against West Ham, Sterling, Lingard and Kane meaning he is beyond reproach.
    I don’t like the double standards of some, where last season Ruddy was crucified for less. Ruddy is by no means the answer but you’d think he has one arm missing considering some of the reactions on here.
    Patricio is accountable for a lot more on field fercups than the majority want to admit.
     
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    He’s decent. Doesn’t control his area enough, or boss his defence as the real top keepers do. Capable of producing a miraculous save, also capable of making an absolute **** up. More concerned with other areas of the team at the moment, but sure he will do well for us over the next couple of seasons.
     
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