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Neanderthals Nabbed

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by MobNet Wolf, Dec 12, 2008.

  1. MobNet Wolf

    MobNet Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    Look at these bunch, they look like a group of absolute divs. Shame all clubs (definately including us) have the same sort.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7778417.stm

    Any idea what type of abuse it was? It doesn't actually mention racism, but I guess that is what is being suggested, for it to be a criminal matter?
     
  2. Racist and homophobic chanting, I think. Morons
     
  3. kidder_wolf_II

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    Its believed to be racial and homophobic chanting
     
  4. Daytripper

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    I don't think its to do with race, i think they were questioning his sexuality!
     
  5. Mr Wolf

    Mr Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    I think this has all gone way over the top once again. So what if they shouted gay racist taunts at Sol Campbell, it's words at a football match not kicking his face in, in front of his family.

    Their have been plenty of worse things done at football matches this season.
     
  6. What do you mean, so what? Nothing wrong with a bit of racist phomophobic chanting then? Jeez :rolleyes:
     
  7. What Campbell did was foolish. What these fans have done is unacceptable, disproportionate and there is no place for it in football.
     
  8. Toon Wolf

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    "All it takes for evil to triumph in the world is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke.
     
  9. Mr Wolf

    Mr Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    It's verbal abuse, at a football match, from opposing fans, one time, at one player. Things could be alot worse.

    The coverage this has had for what imo is a minor offence is a farce. Every player gets abuse at some sort of level, weight, hair, nationality so on and so on.
     
  10. Mr Zuki

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    If you're serious then you are a fool. Do you not understand that bigots like this need to be prevented from spreading their vile thoughts, at football grounds or anywhere else.
     
  11. Mr Zuki

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    You're right and Karen Mathews, what the hell did we lock her up for? After all it was a one-off she didn't imprison all of her children and it's not like she killed anyone. Time she was let out.

    And that Hitler bloke wasn't all bad was he? He loved kids, well blonde blue eyed ones anyway and he was a vegetarian you know, never harmed an animal. I can't see what all the fuss was about,.
     
  12. Although i disagree with what the people in that specific article have done, I'm inclined to agree (to an extent) with what Mr.Wolf is getting at.

    How many of us on this board, in the heat of he moment, have shouted something you don't mean at a football match? I imagine it was much the same here, however, they should have been more aware that there is a line there somewhere... and it seems they crossed it. They probably didn't expect to be caught - but that doesn't make it right.
     
  13. He is talking about fans giving out stick to an opposition footballer.
    In this case, racism and or homophobic chanting were used and it's correct to make an example of these few 'fans' in order to send out a message to anyone else who 'may' consider doing it in the future.

    Bringing Karen Matthews and Adolf Hitler into the equation only makes you look like a tit i'm afraid. Please be realistic in your arguments if you're going to jump on he high and mighty bandwagon.
     
  14. Mr Wolf

    Mr Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    When have I said don't punish them? I just think shouting verbal abuse at a football match is not that bad a crime to what I have seen growing up over the years. But feel free to compare it to mass murder Zuki.

    I bet over the years most people on this board have shouted/singed abuse. Maybe not on the touchy subject of race or homosexuality but some sort of form.
     
  15. Polish Wolf

    Polish Wolf Senior Member

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    homophobia?

    LMAO :D

    1. there is no such thing - who the hell has got a fear of homosexuals (and that's what the phobia means, isn't it?)

    2. far away over the top - football is emotions and I bet everyone of us shouted during the game something he wouldn't shout on the street
     
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  16. Space Wolf

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    I expect the Police to take action against anyone who has ever shouted "Sheep! Sheep! Sheep *******!" in the direction of Cardiff or Swansea fans.
     
  17. Polish Wolf

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    zoophobia you reckon?
     
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    Taking the p*** out of someone about their weight or hair colour is a little bit different to racial abuse!

    [ame="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=i91KQs12-q4"]YouTube - Stewart Lee - Belligerent footballers[/ame]
     
  19. Mr Zuki

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    I am being realistic. In my opinion there can only be zero tolerance for racism and homophobia. The point I am making is that Hitler wasn't a bit of a murderer, Karen Mathews didn't imprison her daughter a bit and these people aren't a bit racist and homophobic.
     
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  20. I see what you mean, but theres a difference between shouting one thing in the heat of the moment, and shouting racist abuse.

    Of course footballers should expect to get a certain amount of stick, but there is no room in the game for this sort of mentality. I'm sure the Spurs fans in question will claim they were only joking and that they arent really racist. Whether they think they are or not, you shout it, your a racist in my book.

    Polish Wolf - I'm pretty sure there is such a thing as being homophobic!
     
  21. haden-wolf

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    whilst I agree with the kick it out campaign -

    I really do think this is the thin end of the wedge for an assult on the traditional antics of your average supporter.
    Those of you who enjoy a bit of a comedy chant at the expense of an overweight keeper had better enjoy it whilst you can.

    A warning from the club - definate

    A club ban for this lot - maybe

    Police being involved ?..... OTT and an expensive chance for people to have their 15 minutes
     
  22. Uncle Festa

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    I better stop shouting you fat $$$$$$$ to the opposition keeper in case I hurt the feelings of the poor sensitive soul.
     
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    I assume English isn't your first language. It is a contempt for homosexual people that is often displayed by violence/verbal abuse.

    These morons would have known exactly what they were doing and probably loved every minute of their 'witty banter'.
     
  24. Mr Wolf

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    "Barry Hutchinson, 49, pleaded guilty to an offence of racist or obscene chanting during the Magpies' 0-0 draw at Middlesbrough on 29 November.

    Hutchinson was fined £270 with £45 costs"

    Lets see what happens to these spurs fans with all the media coverage it's had. BTW that guy was singing "Mido's a pedo and he's got a bomb"
     
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    Brilliant.

    The whole point is that whatever they were chanting was heard by children. Whilst I accept that swearing at players and officials is part and parcel of the game (although over the top in some cases), racist type chanting is clearly unacceptable and has to be stamped out (but preferably not by Rooney!).
     
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    A funny thing happened at Ayresome Park during the pre match build up of our first game back in this league in 1989. A black Boro fan was trying to goad our fans and in retaliation we started singing " You're so black its unbelievable" , his face was a picture.
     
  27. Bend It Like Dennison

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    I cannot see how they are going to prove this in a court of law.

    Complete waste of time.

    What next?? Banning 'she fell over' chats??
     
  28. haden-wolf

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    Probably the only time you could have called him an expolsive forward this year!
     
  29. haden-wolf

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    As i said bild, the thin end of the wedge in the complete gentrification of football
     
  30. glastofreak

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    I agree with Stuart Lee
     
  31. Mr Zuki

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    CCTV footage and witness statements or to put it another way, evidence, the same as they prove anything in a court of law.
     
  32. MobNet Wolf

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    I disagree with the thin end of the wedge argument. Do you think the powers that be are unable to distinguish between racist, xenophobic and homophobic chanting, and 'you fat $$$$$$$'?

    I love goading opposition players and fans, and a bit of profanity is a great stress release ;), but equally I know where the line is when it comes to racism and homophobia. I don't see why some of you can't.
     
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    So they're gonna bring in a team of lip readers then??
     
  34. Mr Wolf

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    Careful, thats how Hitler started off. You try and have a laugh on a message board and bang before you know it your leading 350,000 on a racist march into Poland burning effergies of Sol Campbell.






    p.s I do not condone racist remarks from anyone and those who do should be punished but not OTT.
     
  35. Agreed.

    For anyone to suggest that "a little bit of racism" that "accidentally" comes out at a football game is okay needs to open their eyes, buy a calendar and see what $$$$ing year it is.
     
  36. Mr Wolf

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    NOBODY is saying it's ok. Everyone agrees they should be punished but some people feel the media, fans and whoever else have gone a little bit over the top thats all.

    It must be nice to be perfect like some of you.
     
  37. If you can prove 100% that a certain person was guilty of racist or homophobic chants, I dont see that banning them is over the top. I don't want to hear it, and I'm sure clubs would rather have an empty seat than a fan shouting racist chants.
     
  38. That's what the media does is go over the top.

    This sport has been tarnished by a minority contigent of morons for too long and I am glad to see some idiots being made an example of.

    I hardly think that speaking out against racism and homophobia is indicative of "perfection".

    Sol Campbell did the most foolish thing he ever could have done when he went to Arsenal and imo deserves to be reminded of that decision by Spurs fans. I don't have a problem with that. As MobNet said, there is a very clear line between chanting humorous songs at someone on one hand and involving unecessary and offensive abuse on the other.
     
  39. dazmanwolf

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    Every campaign against crime has to start somewhere.

    By highlighting these individuals in the national press and showing the world that you can't hide anymore has got to be a good thing.

    I'd think twice before calling anyone a name knowing that I may have my picture splashed on the news and being labelled as a racist or whatever they deem to print about.

    Negative publicity is a scary tool and a great weapon for the Police or FA to use against these people IMO.
     
  40. haden-wolf

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    NOBODY here I would imagine is condoning racist abuse - Least of all me, I fully back the kick it out campaign but to answer your question Mobnet

    No I don't

    So we both know were we draw the line... at the moment our line is maybe a good way behind the line of others we sit near to, but the general line is hurrying towards ours every year, a point will come when our current line is beyond what is deemed to be OK by the powers that be.
     

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