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Lack of injuries... down to luck or the Antonio Dias effect?

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix' started by Skrilla, Dec 17, 2017.

  1. Skrilla

    Skrilla Just doesn't shut up

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    We've fielded a very consistent starting eleven so far this season, and aside from Ayeh who was injury prone before we'd even signed him, we've experienced little to no problems with injuries. In past seasons it's felt like we've always had 2-3 injured for any given game, yet now that just isn't happening.

    What do you think the difference has been? A backroom of staff from top European clubs (Porto/Valencia) with a clear attention to detail in every aspect? An increased importance on recruiting industry experts of analytics? Or the unconventional approaches of Antonio Dias (some of which we've seen prematch)?

    All of the above? Is one more important than the others? or is it just down to pure luck and merely a coincidence?
     
  2. JadeWolf

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    Think it's everything really. You always need a little bit of luck when it comes to injuries, and some of the tackles on Jota particularly could have caused really bad injuries. But I think the whole club has stepped forward this summer, we've even got a rehab coach now to help players recover during and after the game, so that will obviously help too!
     
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    You’ve said it now haven’t you!
     
  4. Nige100

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    Bit of both I reckon injuries are a lottery but you can give yourself a chance of not getting one. Looks like we may have given our players that chance with the staff at the club. Happy Days long may it continue.
     
  5. grumpy old wolf

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    Looks a lot like tempting fate this thread Shhhhhhh
     
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    When you look at some of the tackles flying in on our front three I'm amazed one or more of them hasn't had a long term injury. So I think we've been a bit lucky.
     
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    Think this comes into it but I also feel the whole set up and way things are done is more professional.
     
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    hope you haven't cursed us
     
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    Now you've cursed it!
     
  10. Skrilla

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    If we get any injuries against Ipswich you know who to blame :D
     
  11. Skrilla

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    Hadn't realised we now have a rehab coach, that could certainly be a big reason for it. Pre- and post-match preparation are essential especially in this league when the games come thick and fast.
     
  12. De Wolfs Mullet

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    This indeed. Think we've been very fortunate that some of our players haven't been nobbled.
     
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    Close this thread down please.
     
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  14. WonderWolf

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    Agree.

    Could be though them 'geezers are also made of more tensile stuff. :)
     
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    The more successful the team, the fewer the injuries, I reckon
     
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    All of the above, also, I was always suspicious of how someone that spent their entire career injured was our fitness coach
     
  17. sedgwolf1980

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    On the flip side, 2 out of our best 4-5 players have missed about half the season so far, and we have a summer signing not yet to kick a ball.

    By injuries, what people really mean is Neves or Jota haven’t got injured yet.
     
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    I reckon frostbite will be our biggest concern. :)
     
  19. Skrilla

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    Not really, but who are these 2 players? Costa and...? Also remember Costa was injured before Nuno arrived, so that's a long standing injury.
     
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    Improved coaching method and coaches has clearly helped keeping our number of injuries down compared with previous seasons/regimes....:):)
     
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    Boly, Douglas, Bennett, Hause and Costa have missed several games from injuries to be fair. Add to that, Gibbs-White, Ennis and (I think) Ronan as well.
    We've also got a player with Leukaemia which is not exactly common.

    So I wouldn't say we've been luckier/better than anyone else in the injury department.
     
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    Has there been clarification on what's up with Douglas?
     
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    I think the sky comms said he got a hip injury against Sunderland.
     
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    thought the comms said he was suspended?
     
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    Boly would be the other one
     
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    Or Barnsleyosis, Tuesdaynightitisis or even Burton Nervosa. Our foreign contingent may not have any immunity.
     
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    Costa & Boly
     
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    Apart from the pre-season when they spent a lot of time running to regain fitness but also learn the new formation, they arent overloaded in training. The whole british way of the previous regime of trying to have the fittest team in the league mean they arent being flogged to death. Previously so many of our injuries were "pulls" in training.
     
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    I think also in the past we've been more willing to sign players who had talent but also had a questionable injury record as they were cheaper than some other options, some paid off some didn't.


    some of our past teams have also been of the hard working over talented/highly skilled type and therefore probably playing at closer to maximum physical effort each game, that can take its toll over a season. Where we can now retain possession more and pass the ball better there's less chasing/closing down to do. Don't think there's any one big thing, lots of little factors that all add up, and a bit of luck too.
     
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    The change of fitness coaches might have made a difference but it's way too simplistic to say because of Dias we've had less injuries (implying that more players would have been injured under Tony Daley) - that's pure speculation.

    If you go back to our League One season we suffered virtually no injuries either.

    As a wider example, Ngolo Kante played just about every minute of every game for two seasons in a row (Leicester and Chelsea) then just a few weeks into this one, he got a hamstring injury that kept him out for a month or so - I don't think you can use that as evidence that Chelsea's medical staff are suddenly worse!

    Moreover a lot of our long term injuries (Graham, Zyro, Dicko) were caused by extremely bad tackles on the pitch - there's nothing a medical team can do about that - that's bad luck. If you're questioning the treatment of their injuries that's one of the few areas that the staff have remained the same - Phil Hayward as head physio, Matt Perry as Club Doctor.

    Sorry, long post but I'm off work and already bored today! In essence stopping injuries is all about managing risks - some risks to some players regarding some injuries might be lower but it is one of those areas that we can never know for sure...
     

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