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Kevin Thelwell

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by Dougan was king, Mar 26, 2015.

  1. Dougan was king

    Dougan was king Senior Member

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    What's the point of having a head of recruitment when we very rarely recruit.
    Surely another way Moxey could save money.
     
  2. andyc225

    andyc225 Just doesn't shut up

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    Not this thread again.
     
  3. Dougan was king

    Dougan was king Senior Member

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    Well why don't we add to the squad ,crying out for a good midfield player all season.
     
  4. Sammy Chungs Tracksuit

    Sammy Chungs Tracksuit Just doesn't shut up

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    Well we recruited Afobe and I am thankful for that. It was always going to be tough to attract Williams when he had already had two loan spells at Ipswich.

    Overall I still cant figure out if Thelwell performs a useful function or is he just a fall guy in for when anything goes wrong.
     
  5. WS10Wolf

    WS10Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season 2013-14

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    He does far more than just 'recruitment'. Go down to have a look at the new Academy, you'll see how far we've progressed as a club since Thelwell took up his new position. Not saying it's all down to him, but he does have a great track record with youth development.
     
  6. ginboomerang

    ginboomerang Just doesn't shut up

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    Anecodotal information and what are you measuring to decide 'how far we've progressed'

    For example, we have great facilities, arguably, we are outside the play off positions in the second division - fact

    If Iorfa and Hause are Thelwell proteges then there may be a case for Thelwell. I think he's the club cat.
     
  7. Mr Wolf

    Mr Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    He mostly signs the youth players, it's Kenny's job/final say on players for our first team.

    All I know is there had better be some serious improvements on the squad in the summer.
     
  8. goldeneyed

    goldeneyed Just doesn't shut up

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    His track record is in youth development I am not convinced he has the contacts and nous needed to recruit more mature players, deal with agents etc who are being hunted by other clubs with perhaps more experienced recruitment teams.

    In the end he has to be judged by who comes in and how successful they are. This season, bar Afobe, its been a shambles.How much is down to him, how much to Jackett and how much to Jez Moxey is very hard to tell. But overall it just isn't working. If we fail to get in the top six questions need to be asked - but they won't be, it will just be spin, spin, spin all the way as we watch Sako go and hear more hollow rhetoric from the club in the summer.
     
  9. northnorfolkwolf

    northnorfolkwolf Just doesn't shut up

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    I wonder how he fills his day?! Rolls in around 9.30, has a chat with Jez, 11's, chat with Kenny, lunch 12 till 2, chats with someone at Compton, afternoon tea, final chat with Jez and heads home around 4.30 - nice work if you can get it!
     
  10. ginboomerang

    ginboomerang Just doesn't shut up

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    He has perfected his nod and nervous eye shift to an art form.
     
  11. wanderer24

    wanderer24 Just doesn't shut up

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    I don't know who is to blame for our appalling recruitment but its all a bit tedious and predictable each window. If Afobe is the only defence for 2 permanent and 2 loan windows, then you really are clutching at straws.

    Bring on the summer blah blah blah fob off routine.
     
  12. Big Nosed Wolf

    Big Nosed Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    There will be no top flight director of football set up until the tired and failed set up above KJ is renewed with younger, fresher and more cost effective personnel.

    KT is probably head of youth development only while the CEO still pulls the strings on budget/transfer dealings.

    All dandy if the club bubbles under in the second tier. The sensible way to build now is for the structure above KJ to be restructured. A real DOF could be installed for a fraction of the cost of the current CEO and bring real top six thinking if the right appt is made.

    KJ has put the club back within touching distance of the PL. Morgan now needs to stop 'hiding' behind the current advisers and make good his 'ambitious' talk.

    Unless of course his ambitions are realised already. No one really knows.
     
  13. JOSWolf

    JOSWolf Just doesn't shut up

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    I wouldn't say it is just his fault but collectively our recruitment leaves a lot to be desired.
    Will we hear excuses in the summer as well as there always seems to be excuses for us not to sign players?!
    There should be no excuses in the summer!
     
  14. JOSWolf

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    I agree wanderer. Excuse after excuse!
     
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    I don't understand why we need to sign players for the sake of it though? Take for instance Kenwyne Jones. Would a big, lazy oaf like him really improve our team, had we have snatched him from the grasp of that footballing behemoth AFC Bournemouth?
     
  16. Wolf316

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    You mean the behemoth that's currently top of the leauge?
     
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    Yes, I do mean the plastic club that's top of the league.
     
  18. Bumbamuffin

    Bumbamuffin Just doesn't shut up

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    Glorified youth scout employed solely to deflect flak from Laurel and Hardy.

    It's working by the looks of this thread!
     
  19. JW

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    We don't know who is to blame.

    It could be jacket Thelwell moxey or Morgan . So no point in pinning blame on one unnecessarily . If we don't go up I would LOVE an explanation why we haven't signed anyone and I think us fans deserve one. If someone isn't doing their job then get rid.
     
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    If he was coming in and hiding under his desk, he'd be out on his ear. Everyone seems to be happy with him apart from clueless fans.............look at him he looks like Harry Potter....yawn.
     
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    It strikes me that Moxey is in place to deflect blame from Morgan and Thelwell is in place to deflect blame from Moxey if things go badly wrong again.

    I still maintain that moving on Jez and bringing in a quality replacement with both financial and footballing nous (on a fraction of what Jez gets paid) would be the best way for the club to move forward into a new era. It is all getting very tired and predictable under Jez. He has been here for 15 years and we are now ranked lower relative to other clubs than when he arrived. If we dont go up will be be ranked amongst the favorites for promotion next season? I doubt it, yet we were perennial promotion favorites in the years before Jez rocked up and so we have gone backwards relative to other clubs on his watch.

    If we fail to go up after next season then I think Jez will have to leave on financial grounds anyway as the parachute money will have run out.

    As to Thelwell's actual role then only those inside the club can really know how important or unimportant he actually is.
     
  22. Coshamwolves

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    ...is that the Development squad I think has won one game this season.
     
  23. WS10Wolf

    WS10Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season 2013-14

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    I was thinking more of the Under 18s and below, they're the ones who mainly use the new academy. They haven't done too badly this season.
     
  24. Rhoswolf

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    Clueless fans, the ones who spend their hard earned you mean, guess you must be right, nice to know you despise your fellow fans so much:embarassed:!
     
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    He's not the head of recruitment.
     
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    Plastic club with a very rich Russian investing in it
     
  27. ginboomerang

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    Okay, I'll admit to being there; but I had nothing to do with our double successive relegation and our flirtation with financial ruin a mere 18 months after 3 years of Premier and Sky money. Phew, hate to be responsible for that :rolleyes:
     
  28. Mr Wolf

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    Football development & recruitment.

    Until Moxey goes this club will never be anything, wheres the Lescott money gone :rolleyes:
     
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    I think the point here is, you think we need a midfielder and maybe KJ doesn't.
     
  30. ginboomerang

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    The CPS knows.
     
  31. Big Nosed Wolf

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    Well there is an argument for asking why Morgan didn't act after it became clear MIck was allowed to run the show way too much and after two successive relegations. Until the reality of the second one being helped generously by Morgan's foray into sidestepping his adviser is recalled. He couldn't really do much after that.

    The CEO should be recognised for his role in getting Jackett in but that not enough to maintain his position now. He should, if the 'business' is a serious one, be treated with dignity and respect he himself has not always shown to the club's fan base, and removed from his position. Too long in the job and nowhere near cost effective enough. The club is still second class and I think it fair to speculate that KT isn't the answer to the question.

    That the team has performed so well yet still might not make play offs is testament to second rate thinking which saw little intent on 'recruitment' when it mattered. Afobe being a good addition but half way through the season was too late.

    Now is the time for Morgan to show his intent. The coach has done everything asked of him and so the players now. He must change his thinking and those he listens too (allegedly) if the club is to become a serious modern top league outfit.
     
  32. Rhoswolf

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    Hi Pete you clueless $$$$$$$ reckon we've clocked up over 2000 games each home and away, so think we're not only clueless but clinically insane:embarassed:!
     
  33. Mr Wolf

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    BNW you've missed 'top 6 material' 'Chief advisor' & 'expert advice' but you managed to get the rest into your third post of the same thing today.

    Sing after me 'Nowhere, Moxey is going nowhere'......
     
  34. Big Nosed Wolf

    Big Nosed Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    I still wonder why every time I post something you feel the need to try and be clever, fail to be, and are allowed to stalk my posts with borderline poster not post attacks on threads I post on and those I don't.

    Having yourself posted anti Moxey posts it can only be an unhealthy forum thing you are obsessed with not the argument.
     
  35. Mr Wolf

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    You post virtually the same thing over & over always on the same subject, you contribute nothing to the forum other than 'Chief Advisor' out posts.

    It's like having a West Brom fan come on here waiting until Wolves get beat then coming on here & posting Wolves are $$$$ then disappearing again until the next defeat.
     
  36. Big Nosed Wolf

    Big Nosed Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    You are telling another poster what they should or should not post. You do this virtually every time I post and the irony is your attacks on my posting the same thing is exactly what you do. It is tedious to me, other posters and your view I add nothing to the forum is neither interesting or necessary.

    As I understand the forum rules wherever possible posts should be challenged on argument alone. What you do is take every opportunity to try and belittle my posts and fail.

    You consistently break forum rules but as far as I aware no action is taken.
     
  37. Mr Wolf

    Mr Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    No I'm not, I'm saying you post the same thing & it's annoying, I don't think thats against the rules. I haven't said your opinion is not valid its just never anything different & any thread around that subject you twist into 'Moxey' out.

    We've beaten Sheff Wed & Derby last week & not a peep but a thread about the head of recruitment/development & somehow you can get all your cliches out about Moxey & you're there. It's like that person on the radio who only calls in when we lose a game.
     
  38. Big Nosed Wolf

    Big Nosed Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    You wouldn't be annoyed if you ignored them.

    The reason I reply is I really do believe you have an unhealthy obsession with my posting.

    Any poster who needs to bring another in on threads they have not posted on is a cause for concern. You have done so and your pedictable responses to my posts on here is also becoming a cause for concern.

    There seems no need for your constant attacks other than you get a kick out of it.
     
  39. Dougan was king

    Dougan was king Senior Member

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    We must be Nick actually expecting our club should go up.
     
  40. Mr Wolf

    Mr Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    Nope, I get annoyed with someone posting nothing but negatives about my club. Especially about things that are in the past.
     

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