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Kevin Thelwell - January Transfer Window appraisal.

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  1. SanFranWolf

    SanFranWolf Transfer summary thread supremo

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    With the end of the window now only two days away, would anyone else like to hear what the person responsible for recruitment of players at the club thinks of the job he's done during this window and the last few windows?
     
  2. Bumbamuffin

    Bumbamuffin Just doesn't shut up

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    He's a youth team chief scout and a 'screen' (patsy) for Moxey.

    He's got no real influence and therefore isn't the real problem.
     
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    I think it would be good for the club to come out and say something. We brag about the new structure with Thelwell and the scouting structure but then don't really sign many players. The summer was similar.
     
  5. WednesburyWolf

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    Thelwell identifies good players.

    Perhaps the people who control the wages and finances should be appraised instead?
     
  6. Leigh72

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    $$$$ blanket for the board
     
  7. wanderer24

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    I've got no doubt players have been identified. It's the negotiation of the deals that's the problem.
     
  8. Floydstreet

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    The hunt for a scapegoat continues, sad very very sad
     
  9. Rhoswolf

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    Hopefully not on performance related pay or he'll be relying on food banks.
     
  10. northnorfolkwolf

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    It's got to be SM who makes all the final, big decisions. I think he's putting all his faith in the academy and is willing to wait for a predominently young, Wolves-produced side to get us up. Thelwell just does what he's told.
     
  11. wanderer24

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    Fixed it.
     
  12. SanFranWolf

    SanFranWolf Transfer summary thread supremo

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    Is that all he does? I can do that sat here.

    What exactly are his responsibilities?
     
  13. SanFranWolf

    SanFranWolf Transfer summary thread supremo

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    The hunt for accountibillity is a fans right.
     
  14. purplepault69

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    I would suggest that it is the target player that makes the final big decision--we don't know what has happened as to why our targets or supposed targets have not said "oh yes please I want to play for Wolves "--the club have demonstrated that money is available but nobody can force a player to come to us--we obviously have a limit for everything inc fee , wages etc etc and long may it continue.
     
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    I dont think that Morgan puts his faith in anything. He probably just hopes that something will come good.
    He is extremely non pro active. He inherited Mick who was the main reason we got up and then got no further. Morgan rode it out.
    He inherited Moxey and has kept him.
    He has failed to surround himself with a board whose members have the resources to make a successful club.
    I dont think I have to repeat what has happened since Mick left up until Jackett. It was Kenny who turned the team round and it is Kenny that is likely to keep us at this level.
    Bringing in youngsters on its own will not bring us success without a change of thinking at managerial level.
     
  16. Barnet Wolves

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    For me there's one question that needs to be answered first before we all get our pitch forks out, namely:

    Is it the case that the salaries of Doyle, Rojo and the others, that blatantly refuse to leave, are having an impact on the budget made available for new recruits? If the answer is 'Yes' then we just have to wait til the summer.

    If the answer is 'No' then light em up.....
     
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    I know I/we keep repeating ourselves on here but we are realistically in touching distance of a top 6 finish and then a 1 in 4 chance of promotion to riches which this Club can only ever have dreamed of. I don't think I will ever forgive SM if we now don't make the pos, then sell Sako and spend yet another season at this level. FFS let's at least have a go and give KJ an decent chance.
     
  18. Bumbamuffin

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    This is key for me.

    I hope that it is the big earners that have been the cause of 2 $$$$ poor transfer windows.

    If it isn't,we may as well pack up and go home.
     
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    jackett confirmed there will be nobody coming in but there may be movement of players going out. makes him look a bit like he doesn't get much of a choice in what happens after his comments on tv recently, unless its a cheapy which wouldn't improve us so there would be no point in signing them. the kids we have been getting in are cheap and that seems our way forward with the new improved setup moxey has cobbled together. suddenly jacket is saying the players he has can and are able to improve as the season continues. largely the same mantra from all the coaches and managers over several transfer windows. the club will run in the mould of a club with no real ambition and scratch along in the middle or lower reaches of the championship. sad to see a great old club being treated like a cut price bargain store.
    the statement was made in his after match interview.
     
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    If the movement out was Johnson, Doyle and Clarke, that in itself would be a result... If we did get shot though we would be silly not to try and get someone in. Shan't hold my breath on either front.
     
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    Someone's to blame, but without knowing the ins and outs, it's difficult for anyone outside the club to point the finger and have it land on the culprit.

    Very disappointing 2 windows now, though.
     
  22. JOSWolf

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    Crap if you ask me.
     
  23. Floydstreet

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    But the facts used are often wrong, and the basis for them emotional
    I'm surprised the man who has been behind much of our academy development is being critiqued.
     
  24. JOSWolf

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    So Kenny confirms there will be no one coming in.
    What an absolute joke.
     
  25. Floydstreet

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    Afobe ?
    There's hardly loads of movement anywhere is there, never much value in the jan window, so perspective and comparison.
     
  26. SanFranWolf

    SanFranWolf Transfer summary thread supremo

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    I doubt anyone would criticize him for his role in the development of the Academy.
     
  27. JOSWolf

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    Lets see who is active before the deadline. I'll bet plenty are and we are sat twiddling our thumbs.
    No 10 needed. We only have bloody Edwards who was shoved on left wing today.
    The squad is too weak. Three defenders on the bench and no striker?
    A golden chance to get top six this season and we will blow it due to our inactivity.
    A few injuries and we are stuffed.
    Poor by Wolves. Very poor.
    The hierarchy at this club will never learn.
     
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    It's all about finance not the identification of players.
     
  29. SanFranWolf

    SanFranWolf Transfer summary thread supremo

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    That's fair Floydstreet.

    What I just don't get though is why after we identify a target there isn't a conversation with an agent long before with window opens to see if there's any interest back from the player.

    We seem to put a list together on January 03rd, spend one month haring around after players getting disappointed after getting turned down left right and center and eleven months asleep on the job.
     
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  30. SanFranWolf

    SanFranWolf Transfer summary thread supremo

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    I don't agree, I think it's:

    1. Identification of players.
    2. Convincing the player to play for Wolves.
    3. Transfer fee.
    4. Personal terms.
     
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    One signing, a signing that should have been made in the summer is very poor. Even the likes of North West Wanderer who I would consider to be a major defendant of the board said they'd deserve all the abuse they get if no one else came in.

    The club made all the right noises prior to January but have sold us short when it comes to actions AGAIN.

    Let the excuses commence.
     
  32. JOSWolf

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    Oh well another deadline day coming up where we do $$$$ all and others strengthen.
    Typical Wolves. Useless.
     
  33. JW

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    Everyone but jackett to blame?!!
     
  34. Edgmond Wolf

    Edgmond Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season Runner Up 2011-2012

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    We seem to fail on most of them.....:mad:
     
  35. Edgmond Wolf

    Edgmond Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season Runner Up 2011-2012

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    Jackett has made it clear publcally what he wants....so yes everyone but Jackett
     
  36. JOSWolf

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    Thelwell what are you doing?
    All these lists and dossiers. What has happened to them?
     
  37. JW

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    Where's he said that then? And why hasn't he identified any players,
     
  38. Edgmond Wolf

    Edgmond Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season Runner Up 2011-2012

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    It has been posted on this forum....twice
     
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    Link
     
  40. Edgmond Wolf

    Edgmond Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season Runner Up 2011-2012

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    No idea

    Do a search
     

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