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Joey Barton and Kevin Nolan

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by Ampho8, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. Ampho8

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    Rewind to this time last year. Newcastle had appointed Alan Pardew and he went and sold two of their best players (were thought of as that at the time) and all the fans were upset.

    Along came in a dozen foreign players and the fans were extremely worried about the next season. What happened next we all know. But I liken it to what is happening at Wolves. Sometimes you have to go a step backwards to go a few forward. Give Stale some time and I'm pretty sure we will be looking back at these sales like Newcastle fans do now. He needs to bring in his own team.
     
  2. Hoganstolemywife

    Hoganstolemywife Just doesn't shut up

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    :congrats: well said.

    Let's hope Stale produces something similar here for us.
     
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    Over the last 2 years, Newcastle are a fantastic example of how successful a team that exploits the over-priced English market (and has excellent overseas scouting) can be. West Brom and Wigan are similar success stories.

    For the potential £24 million that we're getting for Fletcher and Jarvis, Newcastle could have bought Cisse, Ba, Santon, Ben Arfa, Tiote, Cabaye and Anita.

    For the circa £18 million that West Brom got for Davies, Greening(!) and Valero, they were able to purchase Odemwingie, Foster, Olsson, Mulumbu, Dorrans, Long, Yacob, Morisson, Brunt, Ridgewell and still probably have money left over.

    Excitingly, it seems that we're adopting this strategy too. Of course, it can go completely wrong but, if it works, it tends to work far better than the policy that ourselves/Norwich/Birmingham followed in the PL
     
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    We do not and u.dersyandably cannot pay the level of wages they paid ladt season so no one should get carried away
     
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    Only small spanner in your post is that Newcastle had just been promoted back to the Prem after keeping all their best players in the Championship. Then they sold them.
     
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    shhhhhh!
     
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    When they went down, they got rid of Owen, Viduka, Martins, Duff, Bassong and Beye - each of whom were 'key' players. Their squad was still far too good for the Championship though.
     
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    Also another spanner (Be a tool box soon)
    They not got Uncle Jez giving Money away.
     
  10. Yes, but the vast majority of players on foreign leagues will be earning a lot less than your average Premier League or even top end Championship players.

    Whilst we may not be able to compete if many PL teams come knocking for the same players, if it's us against Foreign top flight teams, we may be in with more of a chance.

    And as for Newcastle, they had the same problem as us in that sense. They wanted to sign players whose wages they couldn't afford. Last January transfer window I remember looking on their forum when Elokobi was randomly linked with them out of nowhere and they were complaining that there's no way they could afford to compete with QPR on Samba's wages when Samba was linked to QPR.

    Now their top earners would have been on £20k or so more than ours, but it's the same scenario really. They looked further afield and got FAR greater value for money.

    Even now our wage bill is surely higher than Norwich's? There were a few teams in the PL we were ahead of last season, probably only 4 maybe, but still. Plus we spent more on transfer fees than quite a few, bearing in mind we weren't selling anyone. So just imagine Stale given PL money to spend on new players. I hope to God he gets the chance to show it here...
     
  11. Their squad wasn't too good by a long shot. Some players were far, far too good for the Championship, but their squad had some gaping holes in it. They had no firepower. Nile Ranger was useless, Ameobi was his usual hit and miss self and usually injured. I expected Carroll to step up and shine, but in all honesty, he didn't really. He only started looking decent when they were back in the Premier League. Not £35 million decent, but decent enough.

    Jose Enrique was head and shoulders above anyone else though, and Colloccini, Gutierrez etc.
     
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    The best signing Newcastle have made is thier chief scout Graham Carr father of comedian Alan Carr
     
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    Newcastle looked abroad for quality players and it's paid off for them massively without having to pay massive transfer fees. This is what we are starting to do and hopefully it pays off for us in the same manner.
     
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    I much prefer the term "wrench";)
     
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    Spaniard?

    (J Lennon 1965)
     
  16. Ampho8

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    ha! I can't believe how off course the thread goes. I did not mention their team in the championship. All i'm saying is is that most people had them down for relegation. But players like cabaye, cisse etc helped to erase the memory of their best players like Carroll, barton and nolan.

    I was never saying our signings would be as good. But maybe as good in a championship comparison. Doumbia has already shown qualities that look too good for this level already!
     

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