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Jez Moxey: 20 Year Performance Review

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  1. Bill McCai

    Bill McCai Just doesn't shut up

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    Reading the minutes of the FP earlier and thinking some of the comments sounded familiar it made me consider our CEO and his position. Traditionally, I have been of the opinion he must be doing OK - as both SJH and Morgan were/are clever blokes. Yet I think - after twenty years in situ - it is probably worth asking the question - have we progressed in that time as a club? Jez is very well remunerated for his role and has some notable achievements ( securing Morgan, the DJ promotion, the MM era ) but also some awful times ( McGhee taking us to 20th, a double relegation ). No doubt we can blame some of this on the managers of the time or the players - but Jez has remained steadfast, seemingly untouchable. You get the impression he runs Wolves without too much hassle, though there have been times when both Morgan and SJH have clearly decided to get involved. At that point I'd expect a top CEO to council an owner and exert that influence.

    Five years into his tenure, Jez became a board member, strengthening his position within the club. We can all acknowledge football clubs are run differently to normal companies but is there some sort of benchmark we can measure against. Previously Jez worked at Stoke who are now seemingly light years ahead of us. Other clubs have - in the twenty years since - gone backwards. Is standing still acceptable? The academy is on the up - from what we hear - so perhaps good times are round the corner?
     
  2. Smithy

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    Before any additional comments I think it's worth pointing out that Thelwell and his team now run footballing matters rather than Jez, who's main responsibilities are probably PR and finances.
     
  3. Bill McCai

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    Thelwell reports into Moxey and was his appointment. Part of the 'copy West Brom' manifesto we decided to employ in 2012. I'd love to have seen the Wolves reaction when Peace ditched Irvine, Kiely and Downing to appoint Tony Pulis, Dave Kemp and Gerry Francis!
     
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    So you don't think he's on the 'committee' then?
     
  5. Smithy

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    Yep but I don't think Moxey has now has too much influence on say managerial appointments whereas in the past it was probably generally his call, is all I'm saying.

    It is a very interesting post though and I'm sure will spark a heated debate somewhere along the line :D
     
  6. Bill McCai

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    I think after twenty years it is worth posing the question.

    As for Jez not being involved on the football side, I would be amazed if he has no contact with Thelwell, Webber, Jackett et al considering he was the person who was responsible for instigating and embedding that structure - based on something Jeremy Peace had done years previously.
     
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    Absolutely I don't disagree but all I'm saying is once those appointments were made, I would assume he would take a step back from those matters afterwards.

    I'm sure they have contact regularly as ultimately he's probably their boss.
     
  8. Rhoswolf

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    As CEO of a football club to suggest he is not involved in the core business is quite frankly ludicrous.
     
  9. Smithy

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    ... If you actually read my posts I don't suggest that in the slightest.
     
  10. MolineuxMixer

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    Jez does oversee and tests the pies
     
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    Average operator.Some better,some worse.
     
  12. Smithy

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    :d
     
  13. Rhoswolf

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    Referring to your original post suggesting that his main responsibilities are PR and finance then I would suggest he is failing totally
     
  14. Bill McCai

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    If you look back over the time Jez has been here we have had several different strategies under quite a few managers.

    We had McGhee with 'sign all the Leicester players/trolley dash for Robbie Slater and Steve Claridge', Colin Lee where we sold Keane and spent on Akinbiyi - only to sell him at a profit - not much dosh. Dave Jones 'oven ready PL players', Hoddle 'the Anderton' years, McCarthy 'young and hungry', Connor 'older and not hungry', Solbakken 'out with the old', Saunders 'back with the old' and KJ 'young and hungry'. Recently we've aped WBA with the 'structure' change. We very rarely seem to be ahead of the curve a la Swansea or Southampton ( or WBA to be fair ). As mentioned earlier - some teams have regressed in 20 years whereas we are around about where we were back in 1995. Some might say we should count our blessings we are not Oldham or Barnsley I suppose, others might rue the fact we have not made the progress WBA, Swansea or Southampton have made. Given we have 20 years of evidence to go on, does anybody really see our fortunes changing much regardless of what we may put out to the press?
     
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    Similar to my school reports...could do better!
     
  16. Smithy

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    In what way failing totally? PR is debatable, I wouldn't say he's totally failing but then again I'm not an expert as I don't give a flying $$$$ about PR, and as for finances... Are you joking?
     
  17. Tring Wolf

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    - Good financially and decent negotiator.

    - Does work extremely hard and acts in what he feels are the best interests of the club (even if they're unpopular).

    - Very mixed record with Managerial appointments.

    - Poor long-term strategist. Flitted between various approaches with differing success.

    - Has probably earned more than £10m during his time here. The fact he received a £2m 'one-off bonus' for getting us promoted still rankles when you consider the lack of investment on the playing side the following season.

    - Should have resigned after the double relegation which saw a number of management and staff behind the scenes lose their jobs.

    4 out of 10 for me.
     
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    Good CEO Not a footballer - good profit this year
    Keep it up Jez
     
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    Finances - joking? No actually, SJH is rightly lauded for writing off £70m in debt, SM has put in £30m plus. Most of this, if not all, was during Moxey's watch so what actual financial wizardry has he brought to the club?
     
  20. BrummieNick

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    He's full of $$$$. No better than those slimey parasites at Westminster. He's earnt millions at Wolves I've seen one cup QF ,two promotions ,3 relegations and 4 crap seasons in the Greed league. Failure apart from his renumeration and pension which is have been quite the success. Keeps us all squabbling though aye. Divide and conquer.
     
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    Year 2025...

    ... Today Sir Steve Morgan (services to construction/charity) officially unveiled the final piece of his Molineux redevelopment with the opening of the £40m 'Sir Jez Moxey Stand'.

    Speaking at the opening ceremony, Sir Steve said "Two years after his knighthood (awarded for services to football) it is a pleasure to be able to recognise a man who has masterminded WWFC into the finest era in its history".

    "It may have taken 19 years to see his vision start to come to fruition but I always thought that his strategies were ahead of his time".

    Among the guests at the star studded event was FIFA president Sepp Blatter. Blatter (now 88) said that the 25,000 capacity stand was "a fine tribute to such an outstanding football administrator...I'm just glad that he didn't run for the FIFA presidency against me in 2018!"

    One thing is for sure, the 500,000 Wolves Socio's look forward to another 25 years under His guidance.

    Head Coach Robbie Keane also paid tribute and said "the Champion's League win was nothing to do with me. I can't lose with Jez's strategies in place.

    Further plans to commission a statue of 'the People's CEO' was abandoned after a worldwide shortage of bronze.
     
  22. Space Wolf

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    Struggled to get rid of the "Bomb squad" in a timely manner. I think he's still living off the Henri Camara deal from over 10 years ago.
     
  23. Ercall Wolves

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    About sums it up, I do believe he should have resigned after the double relegation, as it says in your last paragraph a number of staff lost their jobs
     
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    Er... hasn't Moxey "only" been with us since June 2000?

    He had nothing to do with the McGhee/Golden Tit era.
     
  25. Bill McCai

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    Correct, it is his 15th year at the club!
     
  26. northnorfolkwolf

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    Why are we reviewing his 20 year performance 5 years early?!
    His 15 year review from me is overpaid, overweight, greasy,slimy, wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him, the club have just stood still under his watch, no progress, half a ground, lack of player investment, bad decisions and should have gone in May 13 along with other staff he fired. Don't like him, never will.
     
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    Come on Norfolk stop pulling those punches and tell us what you really think of him
     
  28. Tony

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    Was that all tongue in cheek?
     
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    I could not care less about the CEO, the FO the DOF it won't change one thing on the pitch.

    Do you think West Brom & Palace have turned their seasons around because of backroom changes. Do you think after 8 years in this league Derby are where they are because of the CEO & Ipswich even more.

    Yeah but the CEO appointed them blah blah $$$$ off.
     
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    You all seem to think if we appoint a new CEO it will go back to the 'magical' 70's.
     
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    So not 20 then. OK. I just don't like Jez Moxey, to be honest.
     
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    As my sig has said for some time, I want him out. We will not progress properly, as we should, as a club until he is out the door. He's been here far too long. As Tring said, he should've resigned in May 2013, but the greedy $$$$ didn't so he could carry on picking up his huge wage packet. Just go, Moxey.
     
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    He's a great businessman in many respects, but he is not suited to a football club, well, not us anyway.
     
  34. morosewolf

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    Decent administrator, does not and will not REALLY understand football or its traditional fan base. The best example of the former I can give is the sale of Jarvis and Fletcher. Everyone knew they were going to go in the Summer of 2012, yet he hung on and hung on trying to squeeze as much as he could out of the deals. From a strictly financial perspective this was absolutely the right thing to do, hence my point. However, it unsettled the squad, undermined the new manager and left us with a trollley dash recruitment policy after the season had started, so from a football perspective was the wrong thing to do.

    For the latter I give you the infamous pie and the pint. Now this has been discussed at length on numerous occasions, but let's assume he had no choice and had to give the South Bank to Albion. A well intentioned gesture of goodwill, was so far wide of the mark that it antagonised supporters so much that they still talk about it the best part of a decade later. He does not understand the mentality of the fan base he seeks to serve.
     
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  35. reanswolf

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    I'm definatley with Mr Wolf on this one.

    A CEO has no influence on how we do on Saturday, he has no influence on the teams performance in anyway.

    I rest my case. The rest of you can **** off :D
     
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    Other clubs of similar size have majorly improved over the last 15 years, we havent. He's "earned" around £6million or so ( thats a guess !) in 20 years to achieve very little.
     
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    Love to know what his wages and bonuses have been? The one year alone it was over half a million, more than Villas and iirc Utd's CEO which is laughable!!
     
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    So what has been achieved under his guardianship over 15 years? On the plus side two promotions to the Premiership. But in each case a complete failure to establish there. Four seasons in the Premiership in 15 years and all those seasons were simply a backs to the wall struggle - heroic sometimes but never ever convincing. Other clubs such as mighty Wigan (bar this current season) and Swansea have a far better record and lets not even mention West Brom, Stoke, Southampton etc. Promotion from the Third Division in first season a plus including appointment of KJ (4th time lucky) but what the Hell were we doing there in the first place?

    On the debit side the double relegation and down to the third division - a huge humiliation for the club and its supporters - gross mismanagement, confusion, utter amateurism. Otherwise, second division stagnation mainly. Apart from McCarthy's first three years a catalogue of poor managership and poor managers - and most important very little good football barring those two promotion pushes. As for the Cups a complete joke. As for the Youth set up, one FA Youth Cup semi-final, that's it.

    The ground - some re-building but currently lopsided and the grand plan unveiled currently on hold, probably for several more years. On the plus side the new Academy set up.

    Financially - well we havn't gone bust. But the revenues received in the three years in the Premiership have been wasted on the wages of the bomb squad plus many poor signings (going back Blob Taylor stands out for me plus the Polish missing piece of the jigsaw - £3M literally down the drain. And how much did we lose with Johnson and O'Hara especially when wages also are taken into account? Good profits on Fletcher and Jarvis but elsewhere transfer dealing pretty damn poor. Good deal on the Camara loan.

    Crowds have remained reasonable despite what has been mainly a period of abject failure or stagnation. Wolves are lucky to have such loyal supporters.

    As for Moxey's supposed financial expertise. Where would we be without the incredible generosity of Sir Jack and then his deal with Morgan which injected £30m into the coffers? Where would we be without that under Moxey's 'guidance'. In the poor house. The fact that Stoke supporters were so glad to see the back of him says it all. And where are Stoke now? Of course Coates's money has played a big part but have Stoke missed him? I think not.

    As for the man himself, imv after the double relegation he should have resigned or been sacked. He has hung on over all these years often subtly or not so subtly passing the buck when things have gone badly wrong. Policy has veered all over the place during his term, where is the vision? Yes the attention to the Academy now and getting in younger, hungrier players is at last the right one. But to depend pretty much solely on Academy products to get us through in the future is entirely unrealistic. The failure to add that extra 5% to the first team this January is classic 'falling short' territory which we have seen from Moxey again and again. We have to assume Morgan is following his guidance mainly.

    No he doesn't pick the team, he doesn't play Edwards on the wing or decide the system we play. But he plays a large part in every other aspect of the club as CEO, particularly in the choosing of managers and in financial decisions on transfers. They are his responsibility and he has been paid a fortune over the years to produce results. SJH and SM presumably have found him a useful servant to them so from their point of view he must have done something useful as an accountant/administrator. But he has a poor relationship with the supporters, is not trusted and his reputation for spin is well earned. No doubt his mother loves him and he has many good aspects we don't know about - supporters always tend to shoot from the hip. But if you expect the large rewards of being a CEO you have to accept you are going to be judged on results and achievements or the lack of them. In the 'real' business world would he still be around based on his record thus far? NO

    Sorry not impressed and never have been.

    PS Can the mods change the 20 years at the top of this thread to 15? Thanks.
     
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    With bonuses try doubling that. He had 2 million one season.
     
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