This site is supported by the advertisements on it, please disable your AdBlocker so we can continue to provide you with the quality content you expect.

Jarvis - available for selection tomorrow

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by glasgowwolf, Dec 5, 2008.

  1. glasgowwolf

    glasgowwolf Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    11,176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2005
    Club Text

    On The bench hopefully gove him a 20 minute run out
     
  2. Ulver

    Ulver Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    4,176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2008
    why is that worthy of a club text lol :confused:
     
  3. Redditch Wolves

    Redditch Wolves Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    2,957
    Likes Received:
    2
    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2007
    Because the bloke is class and worthy of a club text lol

    Anyone know how many tickets we have sold for tomorrow?
     
  4. andy-in-seat-190

    andy-in-seat-190 Moderator

    Messages:
    3,585
    Likes Received:
    80
    Joined:
    May 7, 2007
    Great news - let's not rush him back too soon though - I would hate for him to break down again!
     
  5. glasgowwolf

    glasgowwolf Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    11,176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2005
    I think it will be 4 or 5 games before he plays 90 minutes.

    I think it will be 3 games before he starts.

    Muscles tend to go when you are Cold or tired.

    He will definately be warm and stretched before he comes on.
     
  6. Toon Wolf

    Toon Wolf Guest

    The thing with hamstrings is that if they aren't rehabbed correctly they can go again or cause all sorts of other injuries- back and knee in particular. Michael Owen is a prime example of a player who had a hamstring injury and came back too soon and reinjured it and it led to a succession of problems for him. However, Jarvis has been out for a while (6-7 weeks?) and I have a bit more faith in the current medical/physio staff than the previous ass-clowns, so I reckon he should be ok.
     
  7. glasgowwolf

    glasgowwolf Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    11,176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2005
    Jarvis out 9 weeks

    Owen's problem was not his hamstrings.

    It was eventually identified as a weak core.

    He worked hard on strengthening his core and has not had hamstring problem since
     
  8. Toon Wolf

    Toon Wolf Guest

    Thanks doc. BUT I think his initial hamstring problem was less to do with core strength and more to do with an imbalance between the strength of his quad muscle and the hamstring. Take a look a few years back at the size of his quads, they're ridiculous. A lot of quad weights and insufficient hamstring strength to counter balance it caused his hamstring to go. Once the hamstring was injured for the first time core strength in the rehab is very significant and doubtless contributed to the succession of subsequent injuries. Once the core strength was addressed during rehab his hamstring problems went away. However, the initial source of his problems was his hamstring NOT his lack of core strength.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 5, 2008
  9. glasgowwolf

    glasgowwolf Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    11,176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2005
    Thanks, I do know his clore was blamed for a lot of his subseqeunt ham string strains.

    You are correct that his Quads were huge (as Most Footballers are).
    I did not realise his initial injury was down to the mismatch in Quads.

    I had the opposite problem, my Ham strings, and outer thigh muscles were huge, My Quads were small.

    This lead to problems with my knees, it was pulling everything out of line.
    I had to build up my quads. Now I have stopped playing football, I get less issues
     
  10. jabbawolf

    jabbawolf Guest

    Freak!
     
  11. Dorset DeWolf

    Dorset DeWolf Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    3,401
    Likes Received:
    1
    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    be great to see him involved again, he was a bigger threat than kites before he got injured, i bet our next few opponents will not be pleased to hear they've got him back to contend with on the left, as he obviously offers a significantly bigger threat than Gray
     
  12. northnorfolkwolf

    northnorfolkwolf Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    18,741
    Likes Received:
    3,277
    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2006
    I'd definitely have him on the bench tomorrow. Edwards or Gray on the left.
     
  13. Denmead Wolf

    Denmead Wolf Guest

    It will be like a new signing when he returns, and weve done pretty well without him! So, for me, with the lead as big as it is for now, and 6 games in 22 days coming up, I wouldn't worry about bringing him back tomorrow.
    Be great to have similar threats on both wings again, as it prevents teams doubling up on both wingers
     
  14. SaleWolf

    SaleWolf Guest

    Edwards, no contest.
     
  15. Atlas 1951

    Atlas 1951 Guest

    It would be great to think we'd start marauding teams again a la Forest and Preston with Jarvis back. The defense and midfield have ground out some impressive performances of late but it's not hard to imagine them losing a couple on the bounce as things stand. Another prong to the attack could be just at the right time, IMO.
     
  16. Mauling? or we'd be a marauding team?

    other wise agree, Jarvis is better than just having the player, threats on both flanks means more space for Kites and there'd be danger on both flanks, as opposed to Gray, or an out of position Keogh.
     
  17. glasgowwolf

    glasgowwolf Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    11,176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2005
    Hmm interesting....

    Gray for me more defensive.

    though he was $$$$ poor last week
     
  18. Dewsburywolf

    Dewsburywolf Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    39,109
    Likes Received:
    105
    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2007

    Keogh?
     
  19. Ulver

    Ulver Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    4,176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2008
    no way.
     
  20. astraltrader

    astraltrader Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    13,936
    Likes Received:
    5,868
    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2005
    Hope to see Jarvo on the bench and get a 20m run-out...
     
  21. Dewsburywolf

    Dewsburywolf Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    39,109
    Likes Received:
    105
    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2007
    Did we not play with more threat last weekend with Kightly on the left and Keogh on the right? Not that I'm advocating playing this way all the time but just pointing out that Keogh is just as good an option as Gray and Edwards is better played as an impact player from the bench. Or at least in his favoured centre midfield position/playing just behind the striker.
     
  22. Ulver

    Ulver Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    4,176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2008
    I wouldn't play him on the left though. We'd get murdered on that wing.
     
  23. Dewsburywolf

    Dewsburywolf Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    39,109
    Likes Received:
    105
    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2007
    Hence the comment re Kightly on the left and Keogh on the right.

    Not too sure I'd advocate playing Kightly there every time but it seemed to work second half last week.

    You could also advocate playing Gray there for his customary 60 minutes and then bring Jarvis on as a replacement. I'm guessing that might terrify them a little.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 5, 2008
  24. Mark Rankines Lovechild

    Mark Rankines Lovechild Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    10,452
    Likes Received:
    3,685
    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2008
    It worked because he didn't have to worry about Quedrue kicking him into the stand every time he got the ball. Definitely not Keogh for me....david Edwards and perhaps Jarvis for a 15-20 minute cameo
     
  25. Womble19

    Womble19 Guest

    He will come out for a bits of football until we get closer to christmas when he will come back to be the jarvis we all know and love and rip teams like sheff utd apart on boxing day :)
     
  26. trybalwolf

    trybalwolf Groupie

    Messages:
    348
    Likes Received:
    23
    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2006
    Interesting stuff lads - makes me think ........is their some fundamental imbalance with Matt Murray which makes him systemically prone to injury?:eek:
     
  27. Ulver

    Ulver Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    4,176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2008
    I thought we'd established many years ago that he was unfortunately born with popadom (sp) legs?
     
  28. Not far off 1500 when I rang the ticket office earlier.
     
  29. trybalwolf

    trybalwolf Groupie

    Messages:
    348
    Likes Received:
    23
    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2006
    pillock - i was trying to make a serious point if ther is some basic issue with his muscles/core/spine alignment etc. etc. then until that is sorted he will never have a real chance of a comeback :rolleyes:
     
  30. Dewsburywolf

    Dewsburywolf Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    39,109
    Likes Received:
    105
    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2007
    Didn't someone say on one of the Matt Murray Threads last week that his upper body strength/physique was out of proportion to his lower body physique? Uneven weight distribution?
     
  31. He used to get the urine ripped out of him for having "chicken legs" by Mike Stowell.

    I agree, certainly uneven weight distribution.
     
  32. Ulver

    Ulver Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    4,176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2008
    Lighten up... x
     
  33. trybalwolf

    trybalwolf Groupie

    Messages:
    348
    Likes Received:
    23
    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2006
    so if correct then the correct training would be to put him on the bikes and turn him into Chris Hoy thus preventing a recurance and giving him a real chance of a future :D
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 5, 2008
  34. Nah introduce him to our rather toned left back. ;)




    Doh, he's suffering from a similar injury too:(






    Our fitness coach, what kept him on the sidelines during his career at Wolves.................:rolleyes:
     
  35. Kightly was much better in the second half but how much of that was down to brum playing an uncomfortable centre mid there at left back? Dont get me wrong he isnt bad on the left but he is much, much more effective on the right.

    I hope Jarvis gets 15/20 minute run nothing too strenuous just enough to get feel for things again. And just for the record i would prefer Edwards over Keogh n Gray.
     
  36. Dewsburywolf

    Dewsburywolf Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    39,109
    Likes Received:
    105
    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2007
    Do you want to edit something there Evo? Kightly on the left wouldn't be up against Brum's left back surely?
     
  37. Mr Wolf

    Mr Wolf Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    21,389
    Likes Received:
    5,403
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2006
    He will only come on if were struggling, other than that no point even risking him.
     
  38. Adrian_Monk

    Adrian_Monk Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    11,431
    Likes Received:
    2,029
    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2006
    Give this man a job, he's spotted something that various manager/fitness experts/coaches/sports scientists/people who've been involved with the game at a higher level than any of our fans all failed to.
     
  39. glasgowwolf

    glasgowwolf Just doesn't shut up

    Messages:
    11,176
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2005
    Nope.....


    I saw an interview, and I think it was reported from the Parliament, that Matt's body is actually is very good shape, and it is just bad luck.

    If it was always the same injuries I would possibly think it was his body.... However it is not.
     

Share This Page