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Is this the best time to go up and consolidate.

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by glasgowwolf, Jan 2, 2009.

  1. glasgowwolf

    glasgowwolf Just doesn't shut up

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    Looking in the premiership, and the number of clubs that are not as financially sound as they could be, is this the best time to go up and try to consolidate.

    I am not on about keeping outr better players, however a lot opf clubs are having to sell players over the next 12 months.

    West Ham - All players available
    Portsmouth All Players up for sale.
    Everton need to sell before they buy.
    Chelsea need to sell before they buy.

    It seems the only clubs that can buy players freeley, are Arsenal, Man City, Liverpool, and Manchester utd, Sunderland and Villa.

    In reality we are only really competing against Sunderland for players, and we may be able to pick up some of there cast offs. The same with Man City, they have huge amounts of money available will we be able to pick of the likes of Sturridge, Elano etc.

    WIth the credit crisis affecting the majority of the premier clubs I don't think there is a better time wo go up.

    If a club has the funds available this can be the best time to go up and consolidate.

    We have already seen some of the clubs getting closer, I don't think I have ever seen the Premier league so close at both ends of the table, more so the Bottom half.

    There used to be 3 divisions with in the premier league, there is now only 2.

    I think there will be little real movement in January.

    Man City will be the major buyers.

    I think the big big movement will be in the Close season, where there will be lots of comings and goings as clubs try to balance the books.

    We may be in the perfect place to capitalise
     
  2. Good post glasgow.

    I have to agree - though there isn't really a bad time to go up, is there? (I don't buy all that rubbish about Derby 'not being ready' 2 years ago. You don't go out to play football hoping not to win, do you?)
     
  3. Deutsch Wolf

    Deutsch Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    There can be a bad time to go up if you have an ill-prepared squad and your board lose the plot with money. See where Derby and Watford are now for details. Watford are not a million miles away from administration despite still receiving parachute money this year - Derby may well be in the same position next year. Hence why they're trying to go down the cheap route of employing Hutchings despite him being a disaster in both of his previous managerial roles (they've said he has two games to show what he can do - one is against Forest Green at home).

    I hate the perception that "the bottom club in the Premier League gets £60m", you can just see some of the stupid names that people would bring up if and when we do go up. FFS, Elano's even on this thread!
     
  4. glasgowwolf

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    I know what your saying DW, I meant to say as well, I think a lot of foreign players may be leaving the Prem.

    The strong Euro will be a hinderence for any club buying abroad.

    Players may well have to take a drop in salary to stay here. I have no idea when Elano is on I mentioned him because he his highly unlikely to stay at Man City.

    And not many teams are able to buy players at present.
    I am aiming to finish higher than Bottom, I would like to finish mid - table.

    And with the financial difficulties currently affecting some of the clubs in the premiership it is not a beyond the realms of possibilities.

    Hopefully we should be able to capitalise on these clubs having to sell.

    We all know the top players are out of our range, but some of the players at Portsmouth, West Ham, Man City, that will be replaced, that need to be sold should not be out of our range.
     
  5. Deutsch Wolf

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    I agree with what you say, it was just that Elano will go to an Atletico Madrid rather than a Wolverhampton Wanderers.

    It is a good time to go up, not only because of our relatively large cash reserves and low debt compared to a lot of clubs, but also because there are a lot of mediocre teams in the Prem at the moment. You look at the Everton and Man City sides who stayed up above us in 2003, and compare them to Middlesbrough, Blackburn, Sunderland etc today.
     
  6. Haggstone

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    It sounds obvious but all we need from our first season back is to finish higher than three other teams. With Steve Morgans money, our large fan base (relative to most lower premiership clubs) and the fact several clubs will be forced to sell over the coming seasons, I see no reason why we cant establish long term.

    If we had gone up in MM's first season it would have been too soon IMV. As good as we looked that season there is far more depth to our squad now and our young players have that extra bit of experience.

    I feel the continuity provided by championship football also helped in the buidling process. It brought us some time. We were never in danger of going down last year so Mick was allowed to go about fine tuning his squad of players, moving people on where neccessary. Would he have been afforded such time if we were struggling in the premiership with a high wage bill? Blackburn gave Ince less than six months!!!

    Its not exactly now or never but I feel now the time is right.
     
  7. Mugwump

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    If we go up this season we have to make sure we stay up. This side has a lot of talent and provided mick brings in the right players we could establish ourselves again with morgans backing. The credit crunch is going to kill off teams like west ham and i believe chelsea who wont be able to compete in the top 4 without romans billions. They dont bring in enough cash and rely on their mega rich owners to provide them with funds. Its rumoured west ham are letting lucas neill leave on a free to get him off the wage bill. As long as we dont mess it up this season, i think we can look forward too a bright future.
     
  8. Black Suit

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    Is Mr Morgan as wealthy as he used to be?
     
  9. IrchyWolf

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    Glasgow, it's not a strong euro - it's a weak pound. The euro will soon soften in the short term but not against sterling. Either way it will have the same effect so your point remains valid. It won't so much be a mass exodus; rather it will be fewer European-based players entering the Premiership.Those here already wil not be given such generous terms elsewhere, regardless of the fact that their earnings will have fallen in real terms measured against their home economies. TV revenue and companies willing to advertise/sponsor will be the real sticking point for life in the Premiership. With tight budgets, fewer companies actually regard the Premiership as A) value for money and, more importantly, B)capable of developing a healthy association in the minds of consumers with their own products. Too many unhealthy and immoral issues are raised in the public consciousness by the behaviour of the players, clubs and administration (FA) at the moment.
     
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    Not bad logic glasgow, and I agree that this might be one of those "Tides in the affairs of men" that Wm. S. spoke about.

    The one proviso is the question posed by Black Suit, i.e. how much has the global financial crisis affected Morgan's fortune. He could have been severely compromised, marginally affected, or he might have filled his boots and made more millions from the fall out.

    Henri camara seems to have inside info:rolleyes:
     
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    It is somewhat daunting for any promoted side when you hear very average PL players like Boa Morte at WHU are on £35K a week. Hopefully the credit crunch will bring some sanity to the wage structures of most clubs.
     
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    One thing that will help should we make it, compared to last time, is the lower quality of the Premier league as a whole. The Big 4 (and Villa to some extent) have pilfered most of the best talent now from the others.

    Last time we had to compete against Everton (with Rooney), Leeds (with Viduka, Kewell, Smith, Pennant, Robinson) and Man City (Anelka etc) at the bottom. We could feasibly have the likes of Hull, Stoke, Wigan and Middlesbrough to compete with next time.

    In 2003/04 even a club like Fulham had Van der Sar, Malbranque, Saha, etc, now they've Bobby Zamora and Simon Davies.
     
  13. glastofreak

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    Do Liverpool have the money to spend with the owners in an argument with each other? Will Arsenal have money if they don't make the top 4? Newcastle would also be up for some cash if offered as well.
     

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