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If we go up.....

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by glasgowwolf, Dec 15, 2008.

  1. glasgowwolf

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    Portsmouth and West Ham (there are a few others) are in dire need of money.

    Realistically which players could we cherry pick from the clubs in need of money.

    How much do we think Morgan will make available.

    My gut feeling is Morgan will allow MM to spend what MM wants / says he needs to keep us up.


    My requirement would be a left Back, 2 central Midfielders and a striker.

    Looking at West Ham yesterday, I would love to see a serious offer for Scott Parker..... I think he would offer that bit of class in central midifeld. I don't see why we could not get him.

    Who would yours be.
     
  2. Moira Stewart

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    I don't think it's so much the transfer fee's, they will need to get these players off their wage bills so we may be able to afford a player of Scott Parkers ilk, but it's their wages that will be the problem.

    Parker would be on £60k per week and I doubt would take a drop in wages.

    Firstly would we be able to afford that kind of wage, and secondly if we can how does it impact on team spirit when the majority of the rest of the squad are on a fraction of those earnings??
     
  3. tomhughes395

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    If we go up we will need to get as many qualilty players in as possible, an example is Hull getting Geovanni. Half of our current team will not be in the first team.
     
  4. Parker would move 'up' not down to our level. I'm afriad we will be competing with the likes of Bolton, Stoke, Hull etc. for players should we get promoted. Going foreign is usually the way for newly promoted clubs but this would concern me given Micks and Wolves record in this area. Cherry picking the cream of the championship would appear to be the only option but even then competition and transfer fees would be high.
     
  5. Jonzy54

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    The PL is based on high tempo football with players who can add an injection of pace. We can and do play with tempo and do have pace in the centre of the defence (Stearman and Mancienne),but none in central midfield (other than Edwards)and no-one would say we have blinding pace up top,although we do have power. Admittedly we do have pace out wide. Hull have added pace with the introduction of Mendy and King. Stoke have continued to play their familiar robust game,and Albion have tried to play pretty football but with no end product. If we do go up very careful thought will need to be made to identify and obtain those players who first and foremost can keep us up but ultimately take us to the next level.
     
  6. The Bear

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    We'd have to follow Villa's recruitment methods in identifying good British players who can either make the step up or already have experience in the Prem.

    But lets actually get there first eh?
     
  7. Wolv3nsam

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    Scott Parker is far, far, FAR too good for us.
     
  8. Uncle Festa

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    Regarding pace in central midfield - Henry is the quickest by a mile - a lot more than Edwards. The best midfielders in the World don't need to have pace. Name me one lightning quick central midfielder -it isn't a position that warrants pace - its all about reading the game and vision.
     
  9. Wolf Pack leader

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    Are any of these realistic:

    Ryan Nelson - Blackburn CH
    Nedum Onhua - Man City CH
    Sammy Hyppia - to do an Emlyn Hughes at the Mol ?
    James Collins - West Ham CH

    Pedersen - Blackburn
    Papa Bouba Diop - Portsmouth - Midfield hardman
    Mark Noble - West Ham - young midfield dynamo

    Apart from Hyppia ( rtoo old for Liverppool next year) are at clubs that need cash

    Are these the type of player we should go for , or am I aiming too high ?

    Discuss !!
     
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    I'd bloody love it if we signed Noble or Parker - both are class - but I'd be living in cloud cuckooland if I thought we had a great chance of signing either.
     
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    I've also wondered about some of these players you mention.

    I'd've thought that Pedersen is too good / on too high wages, likewise Papa Diop. Both great players IMO.

    Hyppia could be a good call, though he's getting regular games for Liverpool again now. Other richer clubs would probably fancy him too.

    Mark Noble reminds me of our own Mark Davies and is a player I'd love to see come our way. But I'd imagine West Ham will be looking to build around their players of his age / caliber once they start ditching some of their gravy-trainers. Same problem with James Collins probably, another player I like the look of.

    Out of all those, all things being equal & not waking up from la-la-land, Mark Noble would be just the player to really push us on now. One can but dream!
     
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    I would hardly say Henry had pace. With regards to midfield players,you need a mixture of pace and guile-able to pick out a pass but also able to break at pace. Gerrard and Fabregas are certainly quicker(and obviouslybetter) than anything we or anyone else has got.Touch and pace are the two key attributes. Touch gives you time,pace gives distance. We are going to need these in abundance.
     
  13. Axle

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    How about Gary Neville from Utd? His contract is up and it doesn't look like he's getting a new one. Would offer the experience that we need and we have precedence in this area after signing Irwin.

    Not the most popular player I admit, but I think he would be an excellent acquisition.
     
  14. Mr Zuki

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    So you don't think Foley's good enough then?
     
  15. Jonzy54

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    He can be shop steward to negotiate the fabulous new salaries and media rights. He's good at being Bolshy.:D
     
  16. Axle

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    Yes I do think Foley is good enough, but so is Elokobi and look what happened to him.

    He'd proabably too expensive and would want to play every week. If it meant that he played in lieu of Foley then he wouldn't be worthwhile, but he's the kind of leader who might be useful in the dressing room.

    Just a suggestion anyway.
     
  17. Mr Zuki

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    Put like that I fully agree. Can't see any way he'd come and play second fiddle though.
     
  18. Broseleywolf

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    Everton want to sign Neville. We are never going to compete with the likes of them, we need to be realistic.
     
  19. Funny someone else should mention it. I thought about Scott Parker coming to Wolves too - especially if West Ham are in another relegation dogfight this year.

    But like many have already said, i think that'd be to good to be true.

    Morten Gamst Pederson is another great shout for the left wing, especially if Blackburn come down. Him and Jarvis competing for the left side would be quality.

    Whilst we're on Blackburn, how about a cheeky bid for Benni McCarthy if they go down ;)

    If we can't get Scott Parker, how about Nicky Butt?
     
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    5 experienced pros is what we need in my opinion. We have the youth, so I would hope a couple of defenders (a Hypia and Luke young type) and midfielders (ince/Rae type), and a Benarbia) + 1 striker (Beattie?). 2 years experience of the top flight preferably the Premier League, failing that Italy or Spain.

    I dont think these players would a) break the bank or b) be unattainable.
     
  21. Axle

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    I like the idea of Pedersen, he's always been a class act whenever I've seen him play. I've always advocated Hyppia too, but I'm not sure if we could afford his wages.

    What about Wayne Bridge at LB?
     
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    I'd stick with the policy we have at the moment. Young and hungry with something to prove. Picking experienced players who play for a sub standard Premiership team or are on their lastr legs would take the club backwards in my opinion.
     
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    I thought about mentioning Wayne Bridge as I'd love to see him play for Wolves but he's out of our league. MGP is in the same bracket.

    West Ham will only sell their fringe players.
     
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    Also you have to remember if we go up, then one of Birmingham and Reading won't. Hopefully Reading as they have some good players. As much of a $$$$ he is Stephen Hunt would be a good signing. James Harper too.

    Redknapp will be looking to get rid of a few squad players too.
     
  25. PabloWolfo

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    Unless via the playoffs, which in all fairness is a complete lottery.
     
  26. glasgowwolf

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    People saying Parker is too good for us.....

    Lets look at who we are in competition with.....

    Top 4 forget it he ain't gonna do that again.

    Villa - possibly if Barry Leaves
    Everton - Skint can't afford to buy, if they do get some money they will be spending it on a centre Forward (Doyle anyone)
    Tottenham - They are above us and he is better than what they have. So it's a possibility.
    Newcastle again out our league and he is better than what they have, however club is in turmoil, will they spend much.
    Man City - again out of our league, and well capable of spending money, but will they be looking for Better.

    Which leaves the rest, all competing with us for players, and all competing with us for survival.

    Portsmouth Skint
    Fulham sell before Buy
    Wigan Skint
    West Ham skint

    It's not too far fetched of an idea
     
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    I seriously doubt West Ham would sell him.
     
  28. glasgowwolf

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    They don't have a choice.....

    Tevez is costing them millions.

    Ferdinand went
    Every West ham player is effectively for sale, the fringe players are not going to fetch enough
     
  29. Wolv3nsam

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    Even if West Ham DO have to sell their players I'm sure Parker is one of the last they would get rid of, and even if they did I'm sure there would be plenty of more interesting clubs to choose from than Wolverhampton Wanderers.
     
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    I am sure there would be, how many of those would be able to afford him
     
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    If we go up I'm expecting a change to the transfer window. For the first two weeks only Wolves will be allowed to buy players - we will have no competition from other clubs wanting the same players, and clubs will have to sell to us at a fee of our choice. The players involved will have no option but to join us, and no say in their wages. Sorted!
     
  32. Mr Zuki

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    Are you Jez??????
     
  33. Arsenal need a holding midfielder and he could fit the bill perfectly - experienced, inexpensive, proven.
    Villa - yes
    Everton - they are 'skint' by Prem standards but not by ours. They could afford £4m for Parker
    Tottenham - yes
    Sunderland - yes

    It only takes one of the above to be interested to take us out of the game.
     
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    It only takes one of them and we are out the game I Agree

    Villa - Barry? If he goes yes. If he stays, they will not be interested.
    Everton Totally skint, cannot afford to get a replacement for Yak, Moyes has said Loan, because he has no money, to buy.

    Spurs, and Sunderland would and have the money ( I left Sunderland out because there is no guarantee of Premiership football next season).

    However Nothing stopping a cheeky bid...
     
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    We will need a partner for Stearman in the centre of our defence (unless MM signs for us) and at least one central mid-field player, other than that I think individually our first eleven are individually capable of holding their own at premiership level. We will still need to sign to improve the squad. One or two of our younger players may start challenging for places Gleeson and Davis for instance, Little if he has recovered well from his injury and may become fringe players. I've said elsewhere we will need at least six new players and that is a minimum. I expect Mick to be looking at the relegated clubs, any teams that lose their parachute payment at the end of the season and teams who are struggling for cash at the top level. I have no doubt he will continue the young and hungry policy also.
     
  36. Super Hans

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    We will not sign Scott Parker for several reasons. His wages will be £60,000+ a week. IF we go up the highest wage for a player at Wolves will be a lot nearer the £25,000 mark. Secondly he will cost around £5-6 million and we won't spend more than £4million on a single player IF we were to get promoted. Thirdly, we all think we look like a great prospect of a club to sign for but to other players and fans we won't be anymore appealing to sign for than West Brom, Stoke or Hull looked this year, all of whom did well in the transfer market this year it must be added but nobody signed anyone in the quality of Parker. Players like Parker would view a club like Bolton, Pompey or Fulham a far safer bet than us. Finally, Parker is English therefore this will raise his status and attract more clubs to him. We will need to look at pulling off a deal like Geovanni, but a club like Hull were only able to get him largely because he was foreign.

    I'll admit occasionally I've thought about us getting promoted! And think these would be affordable/realistic targets:

    Paul Scharner - Wigan, approx £2 million
    Sean Davis - Portsmouth, contract expires next summer - wages affordable I'd have thought.
    Adriano Basso - Bristol City, £2 million - assuming we sell either Hennessey or Ikeme
    Shola Ameobi - Newcastle, approx £1.5 million - good target man next to SEB. Not getting a start every week now.
    Chris Samba - Blackburn, £2.5 million - not out of our wage structure assuming Blackburn go down.
    James McFadden - Brum, £3 million - we know he's good enough, but we could only afford him wage/price wise were Birmingham not to go up.

    Six players that would make our squad look very strong in the Premiership all for around £10 million in total and I believe we could afford their wages. IF we go up!
     
  37. Wolv3nsam

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    I would take all of those bar Ameobi.
     
  38. Very sensible post, well done!
     
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    Funny you mention him - I was actually thinking last night it might be worth a cheeky bid in Jan.
     
  40. Attracting players to Wolverhampton will not be a problem this time round?

    If it happens that is.
     

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