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Hoddle’s Interview

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  1. PL jaspa888

    PL jaspa888 Has a lot to say

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    Interviewed on the Wolf, he talked about the £2m to spend as mentioned on another post.



    He also was as damning as I have yet heard him to be about the team.



    Said that many didn't want it, as we lacked the killer instinct again.



    Talked about getting some new players in ASAP, but would be limited by the £2m kitty.



    Talked (again) about the 3 games in 5 days....blah, blah.





    My points are:

    1) Why talk about the killer instinct missing? We knew the squad in
    August wasn't good enough, so should Hoddle. He decided not to
    spend any dosh as he said we were good enough. Don't whinge now you
    square-chinned tw#t.



    2) This is his team now. I bet he still doesnt know his best XI and best formation.



    I am sure he will get it right one day in the future, but I feel we are
    where we were under Colin Lee. £20m+ spent and still not good enough
    for the top 6. We need to get it right before apathy truly set
    sin.
     
  2. Taffywolf

    Taffywolf Just doesn't shut up

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    How can we get it right with only 2 million to spend and someone in the back ground bleeding the club dry???
     
  3. What else he can do??? We played 4-3-3, 4-4-2 and 3-5-2 during this f!$**** year. We have not got a striker with killer instict and we have a board who give him 2m. to bring players in. What he can do? Wear a Wolves t-shirt Mr Hoddleand play as a striker...even at your age you would be better than Leon.[​IMG].
     
  4. PL jaspa888

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    He has had a year.

    He has had a transfer window, and chose to do b#gger all.

    He picks the team.

    He chooses the formation.

    He persists with the same old faces.
     
  5. Markwolf

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    You dont need mega money chucked at it to be a success in this division. Look at Reading.
     
  6. dazmanwolf

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    Once again the mystery of the disappearing Camara £3.3Million raises its head![​IMG]


    "All money raised from the sale of players will be re-invested into the squad!" Jez Moxey August 2005[​IMG]


    £2 Million is nothing in the current climate. Time to cash in on the under performers and spend what we can generate from them on top of the £2 million.


    Lets hope we get some hungry lower league talents in for the rest of the season.
     
  7. Err...we don't do "hungry lower league talents" at this club!
     
  8. Jack Bauer

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    That's where you're wrong.....


    Ivar Ingimarsson.[​IMG]
     
  9. BlahBlah

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    He should have known exactly 12 months ago, because most of the
    bloomin' fans did......that long unbeaten run where we dominated but drew all those
    games through not having the right partnership up front?

    It's ok to have faith (Hoddle pun), but blind faith is ridiculous and bordering on negligence.



    We had ALL summer to get a clinical striker in, right up until
    September's transfer window.....and even after we'd started this season
    by missing chance after chance, game after
    game, we're still piddling about in January trying to prise away an unproven striker from the team at the bottom of the league below us.
    This is with 25,000 crowds, 19,000 STH's, a £7mill cheque in June and a £3mill cheque in August. Unbelievable. Can't wait to see what rubbish they put in the Earlybird begging letter this year.
     
  10. Why is everyone getting worked up over money? As already pointed out by Markwolf, you don't need a lot of money to be successful in this division. In fact, I prefer it the way it is rather than what happened under DJ.


    Further, the 20M plus was spent under DJ. It's history now. Get over it.


    What matters now is that we turn our dominating perfromances into wins. How GH goes about it will be crucial to our play off hopes. We're in for an interesting month...enjoy the ride. [​IMG]
     
  11. BlahBlah

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    Everyone's getting worked up over money because the one position in the
    team that always costs money is attack. What's the point of building a
    team if there's no end product?


    Even Reading spent a record £1million on Leroy Lita in the summer,
    who's far better than Izale McLeod who're we're getting pushed up to
    paying £1.3 - 1.5 million for.



    You could have written this last Xmas. What's changed since then?
     
  12. Blah Blah,


    We have money for a striker...what's the problem?
     
  13. Black Suit

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    Money generated from the saleof former players is not 'ring-fenced' but put in the pot to run the club, surely?


    So totting up the figures of the fairy tale that was the Camara affair means nothing. I don't remember being promised that the entire profit would go towards the transfer budget.
     
  14. I.D.

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    Imagine if Ipswich or Leicester had all of the money that they have
    recently recieved in transfers to spend bringing in new players, they
    would be spending big money.



    I wonder why those two clubs had to sell all of their best players and
    Ipswich still managed to record a loss of £3million in the last
    financial year.
     
  15. singwolf_1

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    In any case, even if we had a gazillion pounds, we'd still end up playing the way we do. Thats because we don't buy the right types of players. And while I'd like to think that the managers tend to go for a quick fix - usually paying over the odds for average players - its also partly due to the expectation of the fans. And in that respect, we are no different from fans at Leeds, Forest, perhaps Ipswich- all teams that have won stuff or have been in the top division for extended periods of time.


    Now that does not excuse the (sometimes) poor buying record, but thats a malady that affects all managers in the modern game - look at Souness at Newcastle, Houlier at Liverpool (and Rafa to be honest until that Cup win) - although its coming right for Rafa now, Fergie's latter day record, Wenger's coming a bit unstuck - although he probably has one o the best records, O'Leary - for all the money he's spent has done nothing, ManC before Pierce - that season we were in the Premier league - had Camara scored in a few ore games, we'd have stayed up - and they had spend something like 30M quid ! Even Bolton and Middlesboro have spent vast sums to be mediocre. And what of Everton ?


    Hoddle says that you have to pay $2M to get decent players who can score goals ! Even then they may not be as good as the players we have. And he has a point - neither Ashton nor Johnson has been setting the league alight and Cort is still #6 - 3 off the top - although he hasn't played in 2 months. So therein lies the dilema. We pay over the odds and get a mediocre player, who may or may not score goals. We pay small money and get a player from the lower divisions who may or may not score goals. Either way, if the gamble does not pay off, the fans will bay for his blood.


    I think we have seen the players playing some very pretty and exciting football this season. If Miller puts on his scoring boots - like in the promotion season - and Ince can bring some stability to the midfield, I think we are in for a good run. But as a gamble, I'd scour the lower leagues for a (hopefully cheap but effective) strikeror two.
     
  16. wolfie smith

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    damning the players as they dont have the killer instinct, its taken long enough.


    i for one can accept him saying the squad was good enough, wait, let me finish before you slag me off[​IMG], we had gone on a long unbeaten run and at the end started to win some games, the addition of mcnamara and ricketts would only go to improve that, we all know there are no spectacular teams in this division so glenn quite rightly thought i wont waste money ill see how it goes. then the problems begin, we won 3 drew 2 and lost one of the first months games 11 points from 18 a good return to start with, then injuries kick in as the window closes and we go into slump, 6 wins in 4 months and 10 draws, that says to all of us the lack of a decent fit striker has killed us off. i dont believe changing to 4-4-2 would have made a difference as we'd still have had clarke up front, enough of the past we all know whats gone on!


    the 3 games in 5 days is bulls!$*, its the same for all clubs, we should be fit and able to take it like men not girls, if they aint fit and rested after each game then someone is doing something wrong.


    money shouldnt be that much of a problem, as others have said it hasnt cost reading and sheff utd millions, there are players out there who could do us a job, rosa hasnt cost much, other deals like that and well be in better shape, get iverson in and get rid of the players who dont "want it" if he know who they are they should be dropped and youngsters put in their place.


    happy new year to all
     
  17. Oldgold Wolfcub

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    I liked your post Wolfie. It was interesting to hear Stuart Pearce talking yesterday about the Festive programme. He basically was saying as you did that it is the same for all clubs and that if you tell them that it is tough they will believe it.
    One of our main problems is that we are masking the problem by believing it is just a striker we need and all will be well. The problem is all over the team. Hoddle needs to look at himself and his staff first and then lead by example. We need to be hungry. Hoddle cant talk about the lack of killer instinct unless he can show the players he wants it. I heard his words yesterday and I was not convinced.
     
  18. PL jaspa888

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    That's my point wolfie. Hoddle knew that the window now applies
    to CCC, and that he should have a contingency in place for injuries and
    suspensions.



    While other managers are blowing their Board for more funds, GH decided
    to bide his time even when funds were available. Excellent strategy if
    we didnt get injuries, but then not really fair of GH to use small
    squad size as an excuse when those injuries inevitably do happen.
     
  19. singwolf_1

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    C'mon Jaspa, at the start of the season we had 3 fit strikers and 2 that were expected to become available. At one point we actually had 5 fit strikers. To get another striker unless it was a top notch buy would have been irresponsible.
     
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    In this case though it has been fairly common knowledge that Hoddle has been after another striker all season.
     
  21. Axle

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    I think if we go back to October, we'll see on these boards that we didn't need any strikers - Miller was playing well and Cort was scoring in gluts, we had Seoland GaneaN'dah, Clarke etc waiting in the wings. We've been a little unlucky, but to be honest perhaps only three of the above have really performed for us this season. We do need another striker - preferably a goal hanger in the Lineker, Owen, Fowler or evenCole mould.
     
  22. PL jaspa888

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    SingWolf



    We sold Camarat on the eve of the season, without replacement.



    Miller refused to sign an extension, therefore leaving open the possibility of him being sold for a cut-price deal.



    Cort was bought for £2m, but was once worth £7m. The reason for
    the low price? 2 years of injury. So are you surprised that he
    has been out this season?



    George? See Cort...



    Leon? Young and inexperienced. Can't base the whole team around him yet.



    Vio? Ageing and been out for a whole season.



    Non-replacement seem so clever now?
     
  23. Hoddle says the £2m includes wages, so that'll be a free transfer you're looking for.
     
  24. SOA Wolf

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    We had money in the summer and could not sign anyone.....now we are an also ran as opposed to a favourite for the title, we are less appealing to a good player....why do you feel so convinced that Hoddle is going to get in anyone who is any good now if he could not do it throughout the summer?
     
  25. Papa

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    What you dont realise is that players will go to Wolves and be prepared to play for £500 a week. They've got a posh training ground with their own lockers and a jacuzzi now you know.
     
  26. G-Wulf

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    Does anyone else find it annoying that whenever transfer budgets or money in general are mentioned in official statements the facts and figures never tally? The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing at Molineux and it hasn't done for a very long time IMO.


    Fans have been questionning the whereabouts of roughly £10 million revenue this season and as yet have not even received a hint of an answer. I've been saying for a long time now, If Wolves can average crowds of around 23,000 at premiership prices then it must be a very poorly run club if it needs extrarevenue to subsidise it's general operations.


    As far as Leon Clarke is concerned I don't think anyone can blame thekid for what's going on - he's going out there and putting his best in. Fans shouldn't be placing responsibility on his shoulders but on the shoulders of the coaches whothrew him to the Wolves far too early.He's simply not ready for football at this level. Why the coaching staff can't see that remains a mystery. He is one player who is crying out for a loan toa lower league club.
     
  27. The Bear

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    Why?



    £1m fee + 2-year contract at 10k per week = £2m.
     
  28. Goldwolf

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    Care to back that statement up with any evidence? I suspect our prices are average for the Championship and significantly less than the Premiership clubs charge. Feel free to provide evidence that proves me wrong.
     
  29. wolfan

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    I think you'll find that Villa, Blackburn, Bolton, Man City, Sunderland
    and Wigan all charge less to watch Premiership football than our
    cheapest ticket of £23.
     
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    Apart from Wigan with Whelan's £££'s they are either deep in debt or
    have very little money. They couldn't afford the risk of reducing
    crowds even further by putting up their prices.
     
  31. wolfan

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    So what? The fans of those clubs still get to see top quality football
    for less than we have to pay to watch second rate
    s!$*e.
     

  32. You forgot the fat signing on fee. That reduces the wages to below 10K. Who are you going to get for that that's better than what you've got now?
     

  33. I'm not convinced we'll sign anyone and to be honest, this may sound strange, I'd rather we waited for the right player rather than take a chance on a player we aren't certain of. We've bought so many average players for over a million that I'd rather we built a team and added slowly than going for a quick fix.


    If we sign someone in the window then great, hopefully it will work out, but if not, c'est la vie. You know, part of me almost wants GH to say to Clarke, "I'm not signing anyone, this is your chance". What a boost to him that would be. It's unlikely to happen I know but I'm not convinced by any of the names we have been linked to.
     
  34. G-Wulf

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    When we were in the Premiership I paid roughly £1300 for home and away season tickets for my son and myself. The previous season I paid roughly £700 for the same. The season after Premiership I paid in the region of £900 for home and away season tickets, only the away season tickets were by now only worth a third of their Premiership value - £5 per ticket as opposed to £15 in the Prem (£460 total over the season).


    Add to this Wolfan's damning indictment that there are a dearth of current Premiership supporters paying less to watch a better class of football than us and I think you'll have all theevidence you need.


    I trust I won't be receiving evidence to the contrary? [​IMG]
     
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    They'd be charging more if they could get away with it believe me. We
    still have a large fan base who attend matches and Moxey realises he
    can afford to lose a few fans by putting prices up.
     
  36. PL jaspa888

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    It will be interesting to see exactly how many people will be prepared to pay £420+ next season up front...



    The last time I felt such apathy aroung the Mol was in Colin Lee's
    time, when we seemed to be going nowhere, became a selling club, and
    had nothing to look forward to. Jones was then given £20m to spend,
    reviving interest again.



    Apathy also set in in Turner's penultimate season. In the pre-season, we then signed Geoff Thomas, David Kelly and Kevin Keane.



    If we do not get promotion this season, then I feel we need some
    interesting activity in transfer market or else we will lose 5-6k off
    the gate.
     
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    20-20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. As someone suggested, in Oct, with Cort scoring 9, and some of the other playing well, and Vio, Ndah etc at the wings, it didnt seem like we needed another striker. The other thing is that there is no point getting any old striker in. We need one who can do the job - and if this player is not available, what does a manager do ? I would love to see someone like Andy Cole playing for us. Will he come ? I think not.



    Clever ? Perhaps not in hindsight.
     
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    Unfair. There were many on this and the previous MM who pointed
    out our lack of transfer activity, and lack of squad depth in August.
     
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    I was 1 of them that was saying our strikeforce needed strengthening, But it never happened and now we are seeing that.
     
  40. I.D.

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    You were saying that our strikeforce needed strengthening when we had
    the leading scorer in the league playing for us, are you Derek Acorah?
     
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