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fretting about reading and bloose

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by saigonwolves, Dec 10, 2008.

  1. saigonwolves

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    Why bother? If we really deserve to go up/finish top, it doesn't matter who's chasing us, we'll do it anyway. If it turns out we're not quite good enough, then so be it. Discuss...
     
  2. Wolv3nsam

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    It doesn't bother me as long as we keep doing what we are doing.
     
  3. Carlos#5

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    In many ways, the chasing two will keep us on our toes and hopefully keep the momentum going.
     
  4. After our match finished last night I watched a bit of Reading and Blackpool opened them up a couple of times.

    They don't look convincing.
     
  5. WolvesAreBoringOnCeefax

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    In another sense, we've had surely one of the best starts in this league ever (actually, how many times has a team got to 50 points faster than 22 games?) and yet don't really have much to show for it, in the sense that it's still really tight at the top and we could so easily end up outside the top 2 while still being above the 2points/game ratio later in the season. That would demoralise me as a player, would seem like whatever we did, never making any headway.
     
  6. Wolvesthrunthru

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  7. This is why I feel we need to get a few experienced lads in.

    The Reading players have done it before.

    The Blues players have done it before.

    Our lads have lost in the play offs, thats it.
     
  8. FLEET WOLF

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    Yes and we need one of them to start slipping a bit to give us a cushion for at least second place, because I think the next lot of teams in the play off positions will all drop more points than we do.
     
  9. OCD Wolf

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    I worry, if it goes on as it is seeming to we could be the only team to finish with 90+ ponits and not get top two. Then it's play-offs and that's a lottery.
    And, we still have to go to the Madjeski and St Andrews.
    Most years, with our current points haul, I'd be disappointed if we weren't 12 or more points clear of third. Being chased down by one team doesn't worry me but two, experienced, capable and recently relegated teams does.
    What doesn't help is that Blues got hammered last night and scraped a win, and they've done that a lot this season. Reading have started to hit some consistency and I don't think any team can live with them when they hit top form.

    All we can do is what we are doing, but yes I am worried. Three bad results could see our great start mean very little...
     
  10. But just look at last night's results in the Championship - two matches were drawn, six finished as one goal victories and we won three - nil!

    I bet all other fans will have looked at that and thought 'they will take some stopping'.

    I know why we worry, but surely we are in danger of taking this a bit too far.
     
  11. If we keep winning they won't catch us.

    Now to the real world.

    Birmingham and Reading still have to play each other twice.

    If either of them win both then surely the loser is out of the race?

    There will be a few shocks along the way.......let's hope they don't involve us.
     

  12. My mates a blues sth and he says they have been poor all season but keep grinding results out.

    So what happens when they hit form then?
     
  13. greco wolf

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    Reading did in 2005-2006:

    P W D L F A GD Pt
    1 Reading 22 16 5 1 41 11 +30 53

    And in 2002-2003:

    P W D L F A GD Pt
    1 Portsmouth 22 16 4 2 47 20 +27 52
     
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  14. Bedford Wolf

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    I don't think the players will be fretting at all. They'll all be taking things one game at a time. I don't think MM would allow anything else.
     
  15. I also remember Reading coming to the Mol on Boxing Day and playing us off the park.
     
  16. Carlos#5

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    They won't. It would have happened by now. They will continue to grind out results but thats it.
     
  17. wolf of sedgley

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    Maybe their luck will run out and they will get what they deserve? Who knows!
     
  18. saigonwolves

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    which brings me back to my original point of 'why bother'? If can't be arsed with worrying about how they got on - if we are the real deal, as some on here have tried to assure me, then it doesn't matter who we're up against. If we're not the real deal, there's no point worrying as we're wolves and things will inevitably go wrong...we may as well enjoy it all while it lasts. Either way, it's better for the stress levels.
     
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    As long as we get in another winger in January (Carlos Edwards?), keep Mancienne for the rest of the season and bring in another central midfielder (or see Mark Davies come back match fit, red hot and in form) I am pretty confident we can outpace the other two (although it will be close).

    I expect Birmingham to strengthen in January whether its Bowyer or others while Reading should hold on to their best players while perhaps not bringing in anyone significant. It will be neck and neck and a lot may depend on luck with injuries. If SEB or Kites were to get injured for any lengthy period of time we could be in trouble. Daniel Sturridge on loan would be a handy substitute for SEB but I expect he will go to a Premiership team.
     
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  23. It's the old cliche isn't it, "one game at a time".

    For everytime we have looked at their results and been $$$$ed that they picked up three points, how many times do you think their fans/players/manager etc have done the same thing with us?

    We could lose 3 out of 4 games this season against Reading and Birmingham and still finish above them and i wouldn't care.

    There are other teams in this division as well and if we beat the others we'll be fine.
     
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    I personally think Reading will keep up the pace and Birmingham will be the ones dropping off.
     
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    It does make me nervous that they both keep winning.
    I'd just like both of them to have a bad three match run - then I would feel a lot better.
     
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    if blues fail to beat preston saturday and reading win against norwich i think blues will start to worry about reading alot more than we are!!!!!
     
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    Watching Sky discussions/matches the commentators describe the other 21 teams as at best trying for the pos - never going for promotion. Already I think the pundits see this as a 3 horse race for the top 2 slots - which as a very ancient Wolves fan is extremely worrying - guess which position history dictates we'll occupy come May?!
     
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    I think Blues will keep scraping wins whilst they remain in touch - what we need to do is increase the gap and that might increase the pressure.

    If we can manage to do this their self-belief (which must be very high at the moment given the way they keep winning despite playing poorly) may start to fall and then they could slip away like Watford and Cardiff did last year. The only problem with this scenaio is it needs us to keep winning! They have a lot of experienced players and if they remain in touch this could be to their benefit. Mind you we won't see what our boys are made of until they have to cope with the pressure of the run-in - it would be nice to think they'll come through with shining colours.
     
  29. JR WAS KING

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    I feel that the Blues v Reading match on the last day of the season could be vital to us. We only have to be 2 points in front of both teams going into the last day, and it will be mission accomplished.
     
  30. The difference between this season and last is Reading and Birmingham are damn good teams.

    Watford and Cardiff weren't really were they.
     
  31. Ponty

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    Can't disagree but my point was that if a team is under pressure it can effect their performance - at the moment Blues must feel they can win regardless of how they play. A bit like teams doing well first year when in the Premier. Look at Ipswich and Reading - top 10 finish to relegation. I don't think many of us would be too surprised to see Hull a lot lower in the league this time next year. I suppose what I'm trying to say is the form of some teams sometimes changes season to season, and sometimes it can change dramatically within a season. I think it's more likely to happen to Blues than Reading - if we can keep the pressure on.
     
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    Birmingham's next few games look hard ones to me. I can see Preston & Reading beating them for starters. Ipswich away will be hard, too. They could be miles behind by 2009.
     
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    :confused:

    If they keep winning how do we increase the gap?
     
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    The way i see it that reading at the moment are as good as us if not better, but a lot depends if they hold on to there star players like hunt, we have the dollars to go and get quality in which they dont have.

    Blues will chuck money at the squad all season and after january will prob be a lot better team.

    As it stands now with us 3 it will be very tite, if no changes to any of the squads then reading will prob win it, and we will be challanging blues for 2nd.

    I think we have come to far and im sure morgan and co will agree and i see january us bring in real quality and moving on to bigger and better things.

    wolves 1st, 101 points

    birmingham 2nd, 88 points

    reading 3rd, 87 points.
     
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    Their record so far is W 14, D 5, L3 so they are unlikely to win all there forthcoming games! We just need to drop less points than they do if that makes it easier for you to grasp my point.:)
     
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    The pressure is on them to catch us so they need to be more worked up about us keep winning than the other way round.

    At the moment it's still in our hands and there for us to lose.

    We just need to stay focussed and carry on doing the job well as we did last night.
     
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    they play each other so will lose pts
     
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    Surely, that is putting an equal amount of pressure on us?
     
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    Somebody is making far too much sense.
     
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    Have I got the fixtures wrong?
    We also have to play both of them also and, therefore, win those games to keep a points gap.

    Or is my ancient mid 60's A level maths out of kilter in this high tech age?;)
     

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