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  1. Sandwell Wolf

    Sandwell Wolf Just doesn't shut up

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    Bare with me here, as this is quite long winded but you'll see my point at the end.

    Going on Wikipedia, we currently have 35 first team players on our books. 4 are without a squad number (bomb squad). 5 are out on loan, which leaves us with 26 current players to compile a match day squad with.

    With that in mind I have compiled two teams. Our first XI, our second string XI and finally a list of any other players.

    My First XI.

    ----------------Ikeme------------------

    Iorfa-----Batth----Stears--Golbourne

    --------McDonald------Price----------

    RVLP------------Afobe-----------Sako

    ------------------Dicko-----------------

    Second String.

    ---------------Kuszazck----------------

    Doherty----EEL-----Hause----Ricketts

    ----------Evans------Edwards---------

    Henry-----------Jacobs-------J.Graham

    ------------------Doyle-----------------

    Looks pretty strong doesn't it?

    Now going through that squad, predominantly looking at the 22 players from the first XI & second string... ... ...

    Can somebody please explain the panic? I look at our squad, and I see a lot of quality, decent cover in every position, and a fine blend between experience and youth.

    The one area we look short in could possibly be central midfield, however we have been unlucky with Tommy Rowe's injury record and George Saville's lack of discipline or ability to recapture his form from last season at Brentford. A loan midfielder will cover this.

    Remainder of squad;

    McCarey, Flatt, Margreitter, Saville, Rowe, Boukari, Sigurdarson, Eusebio, Keita, Ismail, Clarke, McAlinden, Cassidy.

    Bare in mind, a match day squad needs only be 18 players. We have 30, or 35 if you include players out on loan.

    Please, stop panicking. We have more than enough. I have seen comments such as "no ambition", "wafer thin squad", "worst squad in the division", "better squads in League One" etc etc. What a load of nonsense.

    Jackett has previously stated we will only sign players who can improve the starting XI. Rightly so. We have enough cover for injuries and suspensions.

    There is no need to panic. No need for wholesale changes right now. A midfield general on loan is, in my honest opinion, all we really need. A striker would be a nice addition if we loan out Doyle (along with the other 5 strikers we have on our books).

    Our squad is more than good enough for the play offs. With a bit of luck we could even scrape the top 2. Get behind 'em!
     
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  2. reanswolf

    reanswolf MolMix's Manchester United Cheerleader-in-Chief

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    Except you forgot one key point - we have watched the best 11 play all season. They arent good enough (quite) to make the play offs.

    We could easily have been with that key extra addition.
     
  3. NewarkWolf

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    There isn't a panic at all. That squad is good enough for play offs, is it utilised to its best potential?? No I don't think so. But yes al the moaning and crying about transfer deadline day was way OTT. Retaining sako, adding afobe, bringing in great keeper cover, young talent in graham, the emergence of landell and hause have all been massive positives over the last few months.
     
  4. Erick1011

    Erick1011 MolMix Poster of the Season 2012-2013

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    Boukari is permanently injured.
    Clarke and Sigurdarson are on loan until the next window, meaning they can't be recalled.
    Zeli is out for the season.
    Cassidy is also out on loan until the next window, I believe.
    Keita, Eusebio, Flatt and Graham are hardly experienced.
    Margreitter, more than likely, will never make another appearance for us.
    McAlinden and Saville are out on loan.
    Doyle hardly ever scores and Jacobs seems to be really out of favour.

    I'm not panicking, but it's clear we needed reinforcements, so now it's a matter of getting the scraps of the transfer window, a la Sagbo and Graham.
     
  5. NewarkWolf

    NewarkWolf Just doesn't shut up

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    Good morning to you all though. Early bird and all that :)
     
  6. Sandwell Wolf

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    We're a point off the play offs.

    We missed Dicko when he was injured, we now have excellent cover in Afobe.

    We missed Sako the last couple of games while he was at the ACoN. Now he's back, I can't wait to see him click with Afobe.

    Our front 4 of Sako, Dicko, Afobe & RVLP is frightening!
     
  7. Sandwell Wolf

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    That's the idea of a SQUAD though.

    I still think our match day 18 is quality, don't you?

    ----------------Ikeme-------------------

    Iorfa-----Batth----Stears--Golbourne

    --------McDonald------Price----------

    RVLP------------Afobe-----------Sako

    ------------------Dicko-----------------

    BENCH; Kuszazck, Doherty, Hause, Edwards, Evans, Henry, Doyle(?)

    Quality in this division, IMHO.
     
  8. Erick1011

    Erick1011 MolMix Poster of the Season 2012-2013

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    I do think our squad is quality but we seem to be lacking ideas, which is why we were asking for a playmaker in the transfer window.
    No one in our team seems capable of unlocking those defences that are happy to sit back.
    Let's hope we have a great run in during the second half of the season, because the more we stay in this division, the harder it will be to get promoted.
     
  9. Sandwell Wolf

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    I think our 2nd half of the season will be far better than the last 5 months.

    Our front 4 is gonna be enjoyable to watch. Mark my words when I say that.

    I also think we'll get a very good central midfielder and possibly striker on loan. That's all we need.

    I'm confident.
     
  10. NewarkWolf

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    The ideas come from the manager.............
     
  11. Edgmond Wolf

    Edgmond Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season Runner Up 2011-2012

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    I think considering we only really added RVLP in the summer we have done really well to be in touching distance of the play offs. Credit to Kenny for turning us round.

    I am delighted we kept Sako and added Afobe which does give us cover for a key area.

    However we have missed an opportunity. Derby have shown the sort of ambition as a club that i had hoped Wolves would do....we failed at that.

    We are short in two areas

    1. A quality number 10 to help unlock defences and get us goals against defences that park the bus

    2. An experienced midfield general to push us on in games. We tend to play with two DEEP lying midfielders to protect our defence and they rarely cross the halfway line. We need to improve in this area.

    With a bit of guile and experience we would have greatly improved our chances....every game we delay getting these in we lose points and make it harder
     
  12. Sandwell Wolf

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    1) Although not a number '10' in it's natural sense, I really feel Afobe will help. He seems to naturally drop deep to pick up the ball then drive forward. He'll help us hugely.

    2) Many top teams play with 2 deep lying midfielders these days. Real Madrid, Chelsea, Munich. They all play that way.

    As long as the front 4 have plenty of creation, flair and obviously goals in them (which ours do)... The two central midfielders simply need to keep the ball ticking over whilst covering the back 4. It's an understated job but ours do it well.

    Our lack of goals/creativity has been down to;

    A) no back up for Dicko whilst he was injured, and

    B) Sako away at the ACoN for the last 3 games

    We now have Dicko fit, Sako back and Afobe a new addition. Superb!
     
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  13. Edgmond Wolf

    Edgmond Wolf MolMix Poster of the Season Runner Up 2011-2012

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    Sandwell you have seen me post on here for years...Mr Positive right that's me BUT today frustrated we have missed an opportunity

    I strongly believe Kenny wanted to strengthen...the number ten and no I am not sure Afobe can do that role
     
  14. North West Wanderer

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    Edwards will play ahead of Afobe IMO

    Agree with most of this but feel we are 1, perhaps 2 short

    Refuse to join the hyperbole and constant moaning. That's not me.
     
  15. Wolves in Limerick

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    What has Steve McClaren ever done in football to suggest he is a top quality manager. I see someone is commenting on the Derby have shown ambition. I really don't rate this guy. Someone will undoubtedly say he managed England, so did Glen Hoddle and frankly I believe that Hoddle was far superior to him.
     
  16. North West Wanderer

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    He's absolutely top class as a coach

    I do think they should be streets ahead in this league as on paper they are the strongest quite comfortably.

    He won Holland's top division with an unfancied team.
     
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    We'll see how good our forward line is when they start scoring a few more goals. Frightening is not a word I would use to describe them.
     
  18. reanswolf

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    I respect your view and would love my pessimism to be proved unfounded. The signings which you refer to in the loan market are exactly what us pessimists crave for and who could indeed make the difference.
     
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    I always think there's too much emphasis on new signings. If a club has signed four, five, six players then there's something wrong. You can't integrate that amount in to a team.
    New signings doesn't mean success.
     
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    Yes, a team that scores so few goals has a frightening attack. Fantastic logic.
     
  21. JW

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    Is Jacobs still here? Wouldn't have guessed.

    Afoebe has to be on bench sat I'm afraid IMO
     
  22. Tring Wolf

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    If Afobe can play the Number 10 role (which I think he can), it would make a huge difference to our prospects of promotion.

    I think the frustration lies with the fact that this may be the best chance we have of getting out of this division for a few years. If we don't go up, we lose Sako (and possibly others) in the Summer and then other teams will be coming down with huge parachute payments just as we lose ours. I don't think we are that far short and a couple of decent acquisitions to strengthen the squad in key positions could make the vital difference.

    We were playing extremely well around the time the window closed last time, but then suffered with injury and loss of form almost immediately after. There are certain squad players (Jacobs, Ricketts and even Doyle) who Jackett seemingly isn't going to use at this level so we need to make sure we have quality competition in all areas, especially up front given Dicko's hamstring problems and Afobe still finding his feet.

    A quality loan striker and midfielder would make me feel a lot more comfortable about the situation. If we get them and we still don't make the play-offs then fair enough. The worst crime would be to look back at the end of the season and think 'what if...'

    Two loans won't break the bank. And our activity in loaning Clarke, Sigurdarson, MacAlinden and Saville, whilst also releasing Johnson and Foley makes me think that the club is making room for a couple of additions.
     
  23. JW

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    What makes you think he can play no.10 after 2 games

    He wouldn't track back enough, I don't think you realise how much Edwards supports McDonald and price . Yes he isn't the most creative but he is one of first names on team sheet at the moment, it's the last 20 mins when were level and need creativity that Jacobs should come on or try afoebe in no 10 then.

    No way can you drop Edwards just to accomadate your news signing . One of jacketts problems is his persistence with new signings and we've seen this with Saville , Rowe and now it's lookingg like afoebe this season. Yes he wants them to which is good but I question his management of this particular part of the game
     
  24. Tring Wolf

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    Just based on how he naturally played a little deeper than Dicko and ran at defenders from deep.

    I completely understand how much Edwards does (I started threads advocating him signing a new contract) but I also feel there are certain games where we need a more creative outlet in that position. Jackett obviously doesn't feel that Jacobs is that option, which leaves you only with Afobe and Henry based on Saturday's selections.
     
  25. Dewsburywolf

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    Our front four (if RVLP, Afobe, Sako, Dicko --- even Edwards is pretty nifty) should be frightening pace wise but we don't seem to be utilising it properly. Opposition defences are supposed to be terrified of pace (ours definitely seem to be) but our frontline seem to be isolated most of the game which tends to leave us hamstrung
     
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    Beyond Sako - we have bugger all
    Beyond Edwards - we have bugger all

    Our other options in other positions go from very good to average.

    We were short in the summer, we been short of goal threat all season and another window has gone and we are still short.

    We will do well to make the play offs. A fact we knew before the season started if we didn't make the required investment.

    Nobody should be surprised and it shouldn't come as a shock in the summer to be preparing for another season in the championship.

    It's not negative, it's not hindsight, it's hard faced reality.
     
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    For me Afobe is a striker and should be played as a striker, not shoe horned in to the #10 or wing.
     
  28. JW

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    Like I said, start with Edwards and if it's not happening I.e charlton, use afoebe there for last 20/30
     
  29. Tring Wolf

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    Agreed.

    The other option if we're chasing a game is to go 4-4-2 and possibly have Edwards alongside McDonald. Worked quite well against Bournemouth at home until the RVLP sending off.
     
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    I would take off McDonald and leave on price in a 4 4 2. Leave us a bit less vulnerable to counter attacks with prices pace
     
  31. reanswolf

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    A midfield without McDonald - even with him struggling- would be shocking for me.
     
  32. FLEET WOLF

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    I agree Tring and I hope you are correct about possible loans, but based on things that have happened over the past few years, I wouldn't put any money on that!
     
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    The one thing that does concern me is if we get an injury or two complimented with some suspensions then we will be in a world of trouble. Imagine (yes this is an absolute worse case scenario) if on Saturday, Dicko's and Afobe's injury problems come back, Sako gets rushed back and takes a knock and one of the midfield get sent off. What on earth would we do against Huddersfield?
     
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    Interesting debate but since the squad lists miss out three quarters of the U21 squad who are pros and who have figured in pre-season and friendlies it isn't a concise analysis. The top scorer in the u21s this season in all competitions isn't even mentioned !
     
  35. FLEET WOLF

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    In answer to your question, park the bus, with just Edwards up front, on his own?
     
  36. Big Nosed Wolf

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    I will continue sticking out the neck on KJ.

    A bit more speculation based on intuitive experience on WWFC.

    KJ will manage to grind out enough results to ensure play off place in spite of having to work with less than he wanted. I still think the interviews earlier betrayed his real thoughts.

    I believe still that KJ is a very good fit with potential to do well in the barmy league.

    God help him if he does manage promotion though because it should be clear by now the place where 'young and hungry' has been ignored is in the structure alongside and above him.
     
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    Of all the players to have appeared for us this season we've got 20 left now.

    Rowe is injured, Ricketts is available for loan and Jacobs looks like he will never get a game for us again so that's three you can arguably knock off that count.

    You can see how short the squad is simply by looking at the fact that you've shoe horned Afobe into the no.10 role, Edwards in to a deep lying role, playing a kid that's been signed for the u21s on the wing and Doyle up front.

    The bench for Saturday is most likely to be;
    GK, Doherty, EEL, Hause, Evans, Henry, Afobe.

    Does that show a balanced squad with plenty of depth to you?
     
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    The problem we have (as I believe others have mentioned/agreed with) is who is going to come to us (on loan or pre window shutting sign) to play second fiddle to Dicko? Afobe's already being spoken of as maybe that alternative or switch the system to 4-4-2/play either of them wide of the 3 behind the lone striker & we allegedly paid £2 million for him. Do we really expect to pay out yet more money on a reserve/back-up option or do people want Dicko (who most of our play is seemingly based around) dropping to the bench to be used as an "impact sub"? Ditto with this alleged midfield enforcer, who gets dropped to accomodate him? Just playing devil's advocate here as I'm as frustrated as most on here but I can also see the dilemma that KJ's got, ie upset a happy camp by bringing in "better" players. Weren't Johnson & O'Hara meant to be that a couple or so seasons back?
     
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    Overrated massively IMO.
     
  40. JOSWolf

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    One of the three defenders is not needed on the bench and total waste of time Jacobs should be there and get him on in the no10 role if Edwards plays poorly. He is here now. Use him.
    My thread a few days shows my hatred for three defenders on the bench. I bloody hate it!
    If not Jacobs then have Eusebio, Graham, Reid, Wilson, Keita etc there.
     
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