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Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by dr cool, Dec 10, 2008.

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  1. dr cool

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    i think jez and co need to look at trying to fill the ground for the second half of the season, its so important...

    we need a few deals to entice the casuals..

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  2. I agree.

    I'm pretty sure Birmingham would have been a sell out, had it not been on TV.
    21,000 last night is a little lightweight but i can understand it, and for this division on a Tuesday night i guess that can still be regarded as a 'strong' crowd compared to most.

    Still, a few 'promos' and 'specal offers' from Jez would go down a treat. Especially if the casual fan STILL isn't going when we're top of the league. But he needs to make sure he doesn't upset the season ticket holders.

    On another note, i'm pretty sure the stat geeks will be able to dig up some figures on average attendances for the Championship as a whole this season. I think they'd all be down on the usual average - is it the so called "credit crunch" having an effect?
     
  3. itsonlyagame

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    I can't think of a better incentive for any "casual" than a team top of the league having their best season for years, playing on the whole, great entertaining football. What would a couple of quid off a ticket do to better that?????? Plus, and this is a big plus! We'd have every season ticket holder on here moaning about how unfair it is that non season ticket holders are getting discounted prices..... "it's not fair"! ;)
     
  4. wwfc9

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    crowds will rise after boxing day any way im sure of it i would be surprised to see gates under 25000 after this 1500 have got half sts i think this will rise to over 2000 with a few getting them late with their xmas pay packet.
     
  5. Wolf Pack leader

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    Me and mates discussing this after the game.

    I konw things are togh at present, but we are top of the league and scoring loads of goals.

    I would expect 24,000 for every home game

    Am I being realistic ?
     
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    Considering for years of underachievement in this division we regularly averaged 24-26,000 it's shocking now we are flying we are only just getting over 20,000. Even with the kids deal on Saturday I think it will only be 22,000 odd.

    I know it was bought up at a fans parliament and a straw poll on here seemed to suggest that the majority of season ticket holders wouldn't mind a few offers a season to attract more fans in but other than the family offer there hasn't been anything so far.

    Personally I think they need to do more to attract adults back, if you haven't got kids basically the matchday price is bloody expensive. I think if we did do an offer and people came back and saw what was on offer they'd be inclined to try and come back in future even with the more expensive prices.

    Also I think Jez and co need to take a great deal of care when they set the early bird and subsequent matchday prices next summer.
     
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    Not sure i agree, it's the casual fans who were fickle enough to stop coming in the first place, they are probably the same fans that groan and boo when things aren't quite going to plan. Sod them, i'd rather have 22,000 positive fans than a full Molineux with $$$$s who boo.
     
  8. Visage Wolf

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    I suspect that the price cuts needed to entice the apathetic are so big that its not worth the backlash that would be created.
     
  9. Elephant Pyjamas

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    Oh and we had the highest attendance in the Championship last night, we also had more than Roma in the Champions League.
     
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    I disagree ep, the majority of the south bank are season ticket holders and that's the stand where most of the booing/moaning/general yobbish behavior originates.
     
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    Would you go if there was a price reduction?
     
  12. duanepipe

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    Hoddle's to blame.

    So many people who just decided not to renew who were waiting to see if HE was staying, possibly for the first time in their lives as a Wolves fan, once they realised what life was like without a season ticket, picking and choosing etc they just didn't feel a need to reinvest. Many of those people would be attending now because they'd be season ticket holders but as it is, it's certainly not the team or the manager keeping them away, it's the financial climate. That season ticket money would have been budgeted but now the price of an individual game for a Dad and his two kids is way harder to justify on attending midweek games against Derby. All in the timing - who knows, if Hoddle had resigned or been sacked at the end of the season we might have more seats filled now.
     
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    Yep I think so, guess times are hard, and people pick/choose games. I looked at all other crowds last night, and some were as low as 10K burnley @ home
     
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    I think the crowds will pick up after January. If last nights game was played in the middle of Feb and we were top of the league you could add another 3000 on the gate. Christmas is only 2 weeks away so i'd imagine the little disposable income most people have is already spoken for.
     
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  15. PabloWolfo

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    i know it's only a one off, but I'm pretty sure the Boxing Day match will be a near sell out. I went to get 4 more tickets yesterday and there weren't that many seats in the Southbank available at all, even S1 and SL1.
     
  16. Visage Wolf

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    Nope, since price isnt what keeps me from games.
     
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    Is it mainly the price that keeps others from going then or something else? As an example, what's the reason you don't get to go very often?
     
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    Agree, the crowds will be bigger in the new year as I believe we will sell a few more thousand half season tickets when the glory supporters come back.

    Personally I enjoy the lower gates, less idiots, in and out quicker and I know were winning alot more but the atmosphere seems to be better, 06/07 compared to 07/08.
     
  19. Visage Wolf

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    For me its the distance, combined wit the fact that weekends are the only chance I get to spend a decent amount of time with my boy.

    I just dont think that knocking a quid or two off the price will suddenly see an extra 5k turn up. If you knocked a tenner off, maybe, but then you'd (not unreasonabvly) have pelple up in arms who've paid hundered of quid for a season ticket..
     
  20. DoomWolf

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    Certainly was a huge factor in my case. I was a season ticket holder (along with my wife) until the end of Hoddle's last season. That season was mind-numbing and I especially remember the 1-1 draw against Preston where I'd just stopped caring and found myself thinking of better uses of my time.

    Since then I've been once, against Sunderland two years ago when they ran a price promotion because the match was on Sky on a Friday night. I now find that I can't justify the cost and my time has been filled with other things. On top of that, I'd probably jinx them. ;)
     
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    i think you will find much bigger attendances from boxing day, when the half season tickets are valid from. i think alot of those fans who decided to stay away and not renew at the start of the season will be back. so bigger gates will be expected after x-mas.
     
  22. I believe if we beat Barnsley convincingly we will potentially break the 18,000 season ticket holder barrier.

    That will cause the gate to rise by 4,000?

    A big factor is the price for 2 adults to go and watch their team. £62.

    I digged out a ticket stub of the Portsmouth match in '99 when Bully announced his retirement and it was, although we didn't know it at the time, Robbie Keane's last match also.

    Price anybody?


    £17 ADULT - in the Billy Wright upper.

    Forget expanding the stadium. Gates will start falling with these prices.


    Take my parents for instance. My mum said the other day, I wouldnt mind going down and watching the Wolves every other week but at the prices they are charging they can forget it.

    At the turn of the century they used to go and watch us pretty much 2-3 times a month.

    These are the people we need to get back through the turnstiles.
     
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  23. They've sold 25,000 seats already I believe.

    Only W1 and W9 are available in the top tier of the Billy Wright and the Steve Bull is very similar.
     
  24. Broseleywolf

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    I also gave up my season ticket because of Hoddle. I now just buy a ticket for the game when I fancy going. Fortunately, since MM took over this is quite regularly and I haven't missed many games this season.

    Another reason why some do not buy season tickets (has been mentioned elsewhere) is that there is no student season ticket. My other half is doing a PHD and when she buys a ticket with me, it costs nearly half of what it would cost if she were to buy a season ticket. I feel this deters many potential student season ticket holders.
     
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    I really think its economy - we had the highest gate in the championship last night - sheffield wednesday - who have very loyal support only got 14,000. its across the board at virtually all clubs at the moment.

    Price offers would help and may entice people back - doubt the additional season ticket sales will help much I bet the people buying them are going regularly at the moment.

    If only I lived closer I'd be a season ticket holder and make sure my kids went as well!!
     
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    Sheffield United let students in for a fiver as long as they go in the home end.

    Surely we could attract a few if we did the same.
     
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    Our gate was the highes in the Champoinship last night.

    Some of the attendances were poor i.e. Burnley 11,230

    However Forest who are struggling got over 19,000
    and Charlton who are bottom had only 900 less than us !!!

    That is a tremendous gate. I do not believe that they have many more STH'S than us so what are they doing to get the crowds up ?

    Im summary Charltons attendance last night puts us to shame
     
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    That is so very, very true. My sons both had season tickets in the Hoddle season and I found that towards the end they were making excuses not to come, they wanted to go and ride their bikes or play with their mates. the early bird came and went the following season and it is only know that they have got a little older and the football has improved that they are showing some interest again.

    The half season ticket on sale at the moment is good value £150.00 for an adult 70 for a junior, the four for £40 offer (2 adults and 2 children) also isnt a bad offer. I wonder what prices will be if we are promoted?
     
  29. Wolf Pack leader

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    Season 2008/9 Attendances

    Wolves average 23,628

    Blues 18,657
    Charlton 20,942
    Sheff Utd 25,484
    Norwich 24,276

    Derby 28,839

    We are 4th - not bad - discuss ?
     
  30. Toon Wolf

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    I do think the prices are over the top. For me, £30 for a ticket, plus around £50-£60 travel costs (if you're travelling from up here), plus food and drink make for an expensive day out, especially in the current economic climate as a small businessman. I simply can't afford to shell out that much all that often.
     
  31. MobNet Wolf

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    Hmmm, not great. We are (arguably) a bigger club than all of those listed, plus with our form etc, I'd expect us to be higher in the attendances table than 4th.

    Derby's is very impressive.
     
  32. itsonlyagame

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    But prices aren't set on the basis that fans will be travelling from Durham!! If they choose to because that's where they live, that's up to them surely! :rolleyes:
     
  33. SaleWolf

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    Derby have just come out of the Premier League though, all teams who come down generally still keep their high attendances for a season or two once they've come down. Apart from Blose but their not a big club.

    Price and the current climate are not a good combination. Tuesday night, 2 weeks before Xmas and no one has any money. Its dissapointing but completely understandable.

    Will be interesting to see the early bird prices though. I truly hope they reward our loyalty and freeze them again. I think we deserve it.
     
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    If we stay at the top we should be on Sky a few more times before the season's end and that will certainly put of the casual supporter.
     
  35. £60 for two adults to watch Wolves is ridiculous.

    Shooting themselves in the foot imo.
     
  36. Mr Zuki

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    Depends where you sit, behind the goals is £48 for two adults and good value for money I think. Plus nobody seems to mention kid's prices which are very very reasonable at £11 and £8.
     

  37. The areas behind the goals usually sell out first. Price the reason? Quite possibly.

    The areas of the stadium that let us down are the flanks of the BW and SB stands.

    Why don't they charge less for these seats?

    Would an introduction of match ticket banding improve things?

    Have a bronze gold silver type of thing? Charge less for bronze and people may think hmm, i'll go to that gold match next week and pay £31 because I was impressed with them when they only paid £24 last week to watch us play Doncaster.
     
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    I can tell you why I didn't go last night - I live 90 miles away :)

    Consider some may live or work away and find it hard to get down for games in the week, consider Christmas being 2 weeks away, consider the hardest financial times in 17 years.

    Consider half season tickets starting Dec 26th too.
     
  39. Couldn't creative use of the loyalty point system be used for discounting products and tickets for next season, for example? Shouldn't offend anyone and could improve cash flow.
     
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