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Banning over the ball challenges.

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by kidder_wolf_II, Dec 21, 2008.

  1. kidder_wolf_II

    kidder_wolf_II Just doesn't shut up

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    This weekend we have seen 3 awful over the ball challenges by players trying to sheild the ball with their body. To be fair to the players involved neither Julio Arca or Emmanuel Adebayor (twice) seemed to go out of their way to "do" the player but were still very dangerous acts of play (Arca's challenge on Andrew Johnson was sickening).

    All three challenges resulted in yellow cards when they should have been red cards. Studs were showing in all 3 challenges which would normally result in a red card in todays game if the tackles had been sliding tackles on the floor. These fouls were half way up the skins so are worse imo.

    Its time these tackles were taken out of the game before someone gets seriously injured.
     
  2. MobNet Wolf

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    Couldn't disagree more.

    Arca's was obviously a red, but I thought Adebayor's was harsh. He is just getting his body between the ball and the opposition player. This can be done without it being an over the ball challenge. IMO he plants his foot between the oppo's legs.
     
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    Your right he did just that in the 2nd challenge but like Arca by the time his foot goes over the ball his eyes are fixed on the ball and not where his foot is or where his opponants leg is.

    The only difference between the two tackles were that Arca's made contact with the players leg and Adebayors found the floor. Neither had a clue where their feet were going to end up as they were watching the ball.

    Fact is they both put their feet with studs showing in a very dangerous position.
     
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    Only saw the Arsenal incident and none of those challenges even warranted a card. This is a contact sport where injuries will happen. You take the physical element out of the game and you might as well go and watch women's football.
     
  5. wolfie smith

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    it depends on how the injured player reacts, if he rolls for 20 yards red is more likely, ive heard more screams this year from players who've taken a kick on the shin, it almost is ladies football at the minute. saying that chris morgan is coming here this week, lets hope he gets some shocking treatment by a ref.
     
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    Let's just make it a foul to lift your feet higher than the ball, even when you're running, no arguments then.

    Haven't seen the Arca one yet but heard about it, Adebayor's two bookings yesterday though were totally ridiculous. It was almost akin to Zola's 'stamping' red card against Nigeria in 1994.

    In both of Adebayor's carded tackles, he didn't even tackle the player, the ball was falling to him through either mis-control or a bad pass, he just put himself between the opposition player and the ball. Sending people off for what he did yesterday, you may as well turn it into a non contact sport.
     
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    I think you really need to see the Arca tackle to fully understand how bad and alike the two challenges were.

    I guess its all down to opinion though as the sky sports team (yes Hoddle was one) thought Adebayor's second challenge was dangerous yet the bbc thought it was harsh.
     
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    That instantly makes them wrong!!:D
     
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    Both Arca and Adebayor could have made those challenges without their studs being thrusted towards their opponents legs.
     
  11. Gratters

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    Absolutely nothing wrong with Abebayors challenges at all and to compare the two is ridiculous ! If Adebayor was leaning into me over the ball I might think twice about putting my shin in front of him. I'm not saying the defender wasn't entitled to go for the ball but its a physical game (or should be!)

    The crowd got at least 3 players booked - we need to train some refs up who have got the nuts to stand up for themselves (see away team Old Trafford penalty count!)
     
  12. Agree with most of the above - the arca challenge was a straight red for me - the adabayor ones weren't even bookings. The difference is in the contact in my opinion, there shouldnt be cards for challenges where there might be contact if something happens, only for where there is actually contact, or intent to make contact.

    Neither of those apply to adabayor, he shielded the ball, intended no contact, made no contact.
     
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    Too right PQ, there should be either contact or clear intent. Adebayor was unlucky to have fouls given against him yesterday let alone receive two bookings.
     

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