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Are we really fickle?

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by Mugwump, Sep 22, 2007.

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  1. Mugwump

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    I dont think wolves fans are fickle. I think we have had years of football mercinaries ripping us off with rubbish performances and an obvious lack of effort. We as fans just got sick of it. Its no different to when man united were not winning things, or liverpool were having lean times. Their fans moaned about what was going on, but were they called fickle? I dont think they were. If things arent going how you want them too people moan. Its a fact of life. I dont call that fickle.
     
  2. duanepipe

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    Poetically, this thread sits sandwiched between 'Mick has 4 games left' and 'How long would you give Mick'.
     
  3. Ash_D

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    my old man always said that wolves fans are the most fickle fans ever.
     
  4. I'd be interested to know what he basis this on.............Unless he's spent various seasons watching other clubs from the their terraces?

    Its an urban myth
     
  5. Space Wolf

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    I don't think we're more fickle than any other club. Then again, it's hard to tell. I don't know about anyone else but I don't look at every clubs message board after every game and judge the reaction.
     
  6. glasgowwolf

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    Some fans are more fickle than others.

    We are amongst the most fickle.

    It is a regular comment Keep it tight for 20 mins and Wolves fans will get on the teams back... Last season the fans didn't guee what we had a good season, this year they are and we aren's
     
  7. Ash_D

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    spent a season in london covering the firemans stirke, so managed to take in gillingham game sand charlton games.

    when the regiment got posted to chester we took in chester games.

    when the regiment was in cambridge, (before i was born) he took in cambridge and peterborough games.

    that's all i know, and I'm sure as hell I can't ask him anymore.
     
  8. Mugwump

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    But dont most managers say that about keeping the fans quiet when they play away from home? I dont think its a wolves thing.
     
  9. Fair enough Ash D.
    However I still believe its not just us!
     
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  10. Toon Wolf

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    It's a known saying amongst acts doing the stand-up/ club circuits that if you get a good reception in Wolverhampton then you're made- Wolverhampton is known as very tough audience to please. In football terms, it is no different. Wolves fans are notoriously fickle and it is a reputation that has been earned not created out of nothing.
     
  11. How many years have we been slopping around in this division 20..23? Whatever it is it's more than enough to tax the mind of any loyal fan.

    The Wolves have been the "almost" team for practically every moment of that time.. we almost get into the playoffs..we almost get automatic..the only thing that surprises me is that we still have a good fan base. In many another city the ground would be empty for most of the season.

    Far from being fickle, I think our fans are the most loyal in the country..sure they get on players backs and get fed up with the weird managers but most of that is supreme frustration at 90% of the fare that is served up.

    If Wolves don't want "fickle" fans give us some Jesus H football to get the adrenalin running. There is nothing like the Mol in full cry..when it gets going opposition teams are looking for somewhere to hide. Fickle? I think not..Frustrated? Damn right we are!!!!!!!
     
  12. Essex Wolf

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    Every team has fickle fans but you obviously notice your own more because you are among them to witness the moans and groans.

    And I agree with GW's comments above. Considering the number of years Wolves have been the nearly club and then failed I'd say the support is still pretty good all things considered.
     
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    THE NEW BREED OF FAN......

    YES.

    Just look at the posts on here of late, THREE bad results and we are struggling to make mid table.
    Then suddenly ONE win and we are promotion candidates.

    This is not the first time I've see this fickle response on here (or the old MM) or in my local or at work in the last five or six years!

    So IMHO YES.
     
  14. thekentwolf

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  15. Spot on.
     
  16. wanderer24

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  17. Are wolves fans fickle? Sure we are.
    Are we any more fickle than other fans? Don't believe so.

    Maybe because I'm some distance away you get a slightly different perspective but I can't remember another time when a manager gets us to the playoffs one season against all expectation and with a squad formed on a very modest budget and who's job is apparently on the line after only six games of the next season. That seems unusually fickle to me.
    The manager has a proven track record at this level. He's buying predominantly young british players - exactly what we've been screaming for for the last ten years or more. The players by and large graft a lot more than the teams that went before them and the manager is painfully honest in media interviews.
    It's not even close to Christmas yet and there are threads here calling for his head. If that's not fickle I don't know what is.
     
  18. Mugwump

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    thats the point i was trying to make i guess harbury, but i didnt get it right. I dont think we are any more fickle than any other teams fans. We just seem to have been let down a lot.
     
  19. Toon Wolf

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    No-one has put things better than this. Well said Harbury.
     
  20. reanswolf

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    Surely we are no different to other fans except we have had to put up with continuous underachievement. Expectation is indeed poisonous, even the self proclaimed "best fans in the world" down the road were affected by it last season.

    And you look at other clubs - Manu, Liverpool, Tottenham, Villa, Blues, Stoke, Leicester, Cov, Man City, M'boro, Sunderland, Sheff Wed & Utd, and especially newcastle - who vocally must be the most fickle in the world.

    As for Wolverhampton audiences being hard to please - that was years and years ago, things have changed and in every respect (bar footy of course) this town/city is loved by those who come here to perform for being one of the most responsive.
     
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    reanswolf MolMix's Manchester United Cheerleader-in-Chief

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    In response to post 21, these websites always generate extreme views, go to those of any club and you will see the same. Go to West Brom and see how their views have suddenly changed. They wanted Mowbray out and he got them to the playoffs so stop perpetuating the myth that we are any different cos we are not.

    We are very vocal however, bit like the north east teams - and just like them this can manifest in positive or negative ways.

    And To be fair, MM has been his own worst enemy this preseason. Just when we seem to be progressing, he fails to see the obvious frailty which is scary.
     
  22. Well said Essex , I agree 100% !
     
  23. ROVERT47

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    A lot of contributor's to this forum are.
    Luckily,as was shown at the Molineux yesterday,by the fans that actually get of their arses to support the team.
    The silent majority are not.
     
  24. Essex Wolf

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    If to emphasis the point in question was speaking with an Ipswich supporting mate in the local last night.

    He'd seen Ipswich thrash Coventry 4-1 but was moaning saying how Ipswich should have had at least 2 more and that Coventry's only goal was a wonder strike they didn't deserve.

    Now that's fickle IMV and shows that other clbs have fans who are picky as well.
     
  25. PeteWolf

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    Ok, what about Chelsea. Unbeaten for 50+ home games, trophies won every season, 2 points off the top of the table and their fans are moaning about not being good enough.

    Ditto Spurs re. Jol, Liverpool re. Houllier, Blouse and Steve Bruce.

    I go to games all over the country standing with home/away fans of all levels, and Wolves fans are no more fickle than any others. If a team plays poorly, they get booed, it happens everywhere.
     
  26. Uh oh! You're in grave danger of being called clueless. ;)
     
  27. duanepipe

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    There's a lot of descriptions in this thread which don't describe fickle. Negative in general would be a better description. Fickle as far as I understand means to flip flop, change opinions based on the wind. I've seen that at Wolves in spades.

    I'll bet the same people who chanted for Craddock's return were some of the same people who booed his name being announced last season.

    Similarly, Paul Butler who I felt was a solid player for us, one who never shirked a challenge and would always stick his head in where it was needed, hit a bad patch and then got subbed to massive cheers. Disgraceful 'support' - properly fickle. To compound it, when he came back and regained his form there was outrage when he wasn't offered a longer contract. Fickle.

    I'd also suggest that there'd be some Wolves fans who don't go to all the games now but would gladly pay to get in should we draw West Ham in the cup JUST so they could spend the 90 minutes booing Henry Camara. Again, a lot of them would be the same people who voted him player of the year a few seasons back.

    We have fickle supporters. No getting away from it. So do other clubs but that wasn't the question posed in this thread.
     
  28. MK Panther

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    Like every supporter there are more opportunities to voice our concern. If we lost in the 60's & 70's and 80's the chances are we would not have the chatrooms and forums to voice our opinions. Only down the pub would we be tempted to show our dipsleasure and chances are after downing three or four pints the world would be a better place.

    So we are very fickle like every supporter in the land, also we had good times and the supporters are fed up about hearing about teh heroics of the past. We want success again and its coming oh so slowly!
     
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  29. SOUTHBANK_BULLY

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    wolves fans are fickle , last season we were all saying how bad craddock was and now he returns from stoke as the saviour

    the craddock song says it all really
     
  30. I'd gladly pay to fly back and attend any game we play v The Rat and boo him. Above anyone else I blame him for where we are today...if he'd stayed DJ would still have a job and we'd have gone straight back up. ;)
     
  31. He will be again Highlander.....
     
  32. JR's Boots

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    Spot on.

    The fans that watch the Wolves were right to be concerned at the poor performances so far this season but there's no mutiny against MM. The supporters yesterday were right behind the manager and players and responded to a much improved showing.
     
  33. reanswolf

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    No problem in accepting we have some fickle fans, cos we do. But no one should perpetuate the myth that we are any more fickle than the next bunch of fans.

    Simple as that for me.
     
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    What about the Wolves fans who sang his praises last season?
     

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