Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by markb, Mar 24, 2006.
those been pre-match things are normally pretty inaccurate though.
but fingers crossed kennedy and anderton are nowhere near the squad
Official site says Kennedy's expected to be in the squad.
I'd rather have him in the team than Ince.
i seriously wouldn't want him instead of ince. i still don't think he is capable of the role in front of the defence, it allows him to disappear all to easily. Ince may not be the player he was but somehow he tends to lift the team, moreso than kennedy.
Kennedy's a better distributor of the ball, is more mobile and has more stamina. I genuinely don't think Ince is worth a place in the side any more.
$$$$ Kennedy the slow crab is back in the squad.
surely after seeing how fast and mobile we are without him he won't pick him.
DW Can't believe you want Kennedy over Ince.... WTF...
Kennedy more mobile, He is far slower. Kennedy has not tackled once this season. We need someone to sit in front of the back four. Break up play, tackle, lift the team, read the game.
not someone to slow our play down to crawling pace. Make 20 sideways passes. IMHO Kennedy gives the team nothing in central midfield.
Originally Posted by Winelord
Official site says Kennedy's expected to be in the squad.
I'd rather have him in the team than Ince.
I think you know that's absolute boll*cks.
I think were pretty lightweight midfieldwise whoever plays, as long as Anderton is no where near the team i'm happy.
No DW it is not. Kennedy will never be a tackling midfielder. He is not a defensive minded player. He makes Naylor look bad when out wide because he refuses to come back and help, therfore leaving 2 on 1 against Naylor.
Defensive midfielders in the club has to be Jackie Mac (When fit) 1st choice, Ince, and Gypes. Kennedy brings nothing to the team as a defensive midfielder.
I just spat half my chicken sandwich out after reading that.
For someone who professes to have such an indepth knowledge of the game you don't half talk some b ollox!!
You made the nonsensical statement that he hasn't made a tackle all season. I'll bet you Â£50 here and now that I can find evidence of him making a tackle. I'll also bet you that I can find verdict threads from earlier in the season where Kennedy, playing in front of the back four, got consistently high ratings.
Ince was our worst player against Cardiff (but a great team performance generally). Kennedy has shown occasional bursts of good play of late, but the sooner that he and Anderton are replaced, the better.
is glasgow vs deutsch the new imab vs vis?
Let me get this right then...
DW, and Basher think that Kennedy should be the defensive midfielder against Sheffield Wednesday, over Ince.
Unbelievable...... Ince has more drive, more pace, reads the game far better, tackles better.
Kennedy passes better. however most of Kennedy's passes are simple, and sideways, Ince looks forward and tries to spring attacks.
High Rankings from Who people that even when Lescott was playing poorly still gave him top marks. Who give players 4 when the papers mark them as 7. Kennedy had a reasonable start to the season, not good but not bad. We need someone who will cover the the defence Kennedy will not, Ince will. Kennedy's natural game is to join the attack, we need someone who is disciplined to stay where he is.
Are you taking the bet on, Leon?
Your right there mate, he was getting good ratings on here.
Personally, I and many others for that matter, did not understand this. I think it was due to the fact that we were boring, not scoring goals but he did nothing wrong and thus stood out. He was seeing alot of the ball but doing jack all with it, hence our low scoring tally.
Although Ince is nowhere near his best it's his drive and determination which rubs off on other players. We should however be looking at replacing him with someone of a similar mould.
No, when I think DW is right i'll agree with him. as I have done several times.
I just disagree with him on this one and Clarke.
The quicker Kennedy moves on with Anderton the better.
The quicker Jackie Mac takes over a defensive midfielder with Ince as back up the better.
Is that what I said??
I just stated that for someone with such indepth knowledge of the game, you talk a lot of b ollox!!
Your critique of Kennedy in your previous statement was just the usual reactionary ******** without any basis in fact.
How dare you slag off Kennedy, call yourself a supporter? This great club doesn't deserve fans like you. I really hope he starts tomorrow and scores a hat-trick of own goals, that'll teach you!!!
DW you find a game where he has made more tackles than Ince when the played in the same full game and i'll give £50.00 to Charity.
Kennedy may have made the odd tackle, but not as many as Ince.
The reason they are different players, kennedy is not a a player that will steam in and win tackles, Ince is. Ince will not put a real quality ball across from a set piece Kennedy will sometimes
That wasn't the statement you made. Stop digging.
I take it from all of this we agree Ince and Kennedy cannot be in the same team
How can you say that??
You've no idea how badly the injury will have affected Jackie Mac's game.
Jim difference is Kennedy has been playing first team football for 11 years. I am saying he should not play, certainly not as a defensive midfielder.
in a 4,4,2 I would play him left wing without hesitation.
Basher, the thing is if he plays defensive midfield he can sit in front of the back 4. it will be easier on his knees than twisting and sprinting 40 yards out wide. if it has affected his game that bad then he won't be able to play as full back
Ince isn't as good as Glasgow makes out but neither is he as bad as DW makes out. they're just too happy chewing each others bums to meet in the middle where the truth is.
Ince has more bite and Influence with it than anyone in our entire squad so i'd start with him maybe bringing Kennedy on for ricketts or someone with 20 to go. He doesn't bring anything in particular anymore which is a shame but he might whack one in like the good old days.
I think one thing we can all agree on is Andertons welcome abcense from the team. No offence dazza but you're shot and as a result of that....$$$$.
If you're looking for replacements for Ince to play the defensive midfield role then Gyepes would be a better option. His comfortable on the ball, distributes it well, and has played there at international level.
If he plays defensive midfield he'll have to do more twisting and turning than he does at full-back. He'll be covering the left and the right, mainly the left if Naylor is still in the side(It is okay to slag off Naylor isn't it, he's had 8 years in the side so I thought it would be alright to?).
Full back would be the easier of the two positions to play when returning from serious injury, and my contacts within the game have confirmed this.
Kennedy shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the first team, as FB LW or substitute. The fact that Ince as a DEFENSIVE midfielder has scored more goals and played less games speaks volumes about him. I've never been a great fan, but he's been OK in the past and although he lead with some ability in Ince's abscence, it's the end of the line.
At least he contributed to Wolves in the past. What can be said about sicknote? He's the biggest waster since Corica to pull on the shirt.
Ince hasn't been brilliant this season, but I think he's offered more to the team overall than Kennedy. MK takes the easy/safe option too many times for me, and doesn't get stuck in enough. Yes he can pass the ball forwards when he wants to, but he rarely does for fear of getting slagged off by the fans.
Ince has scored more goals (a couple of them match winning goals), and defensively he reads the game much better than Kennedy. People slag him off vs Cardiff because he didn't drive forward much, but his defensive game was excellent that day.
I'm still of the opinion Ince should hang up his boots, but for the role he plays he still does it better than Kennedy does.
Kennedy has been one of Wolves most consistent players this season - FACT.
Whilst we struggled to find any kind of form Kennedy stood out... I lost count of the number of Wolves fans that I chat to saying how well he'd played from August thru till January... and I know a very large circle of Wolves fans.
For whatever reason, there is a section of Wolves fans that still can't stand him - fair enough... it's your opinion, BUT out of all the dross we've seen this season I (and many others) still maintain that Kennedy has been one of our better players.
No he isn't a defensive midfielder in the Ince mould - again fair enough.
He has been playing an unglamourous role for Wolves this season, he has scrapped away in midfield (yes - scrapped) - I am amazed at how many times i've seen him make tackles as I wouldn't ever regard him as that kind of player... he picks the ball up and KEEPS POSESSION... he has looked a lot fitter than the last few seasons and has covers a lot of ground in midfield and defence - something Ince can no longer do.
No - he isn't playing on the wing - don't think we'll see him there again... not under Hoddle anyway.
Yes - he gives the ball away sometimes, but then again - name a Wolves player that doesn't.
Take the blinkers off - all you Kennedy haters... he isn't having a bad season at all. Most of you just need a scapegoat... whereas when Lescott plays badly (as he has a lot this season) he is never jeered is he!
Kennedy has always provoked a 'reaction' from certain quarters... probably the same lot who insist on calling him 'boozer'. Sadly he is never gonna cast off that old label.
And as for GlasgowWolf... have you actually been to a game this season? From reading all this ***** you come out with i'd assume that you listen to the Wolf every week! Am I right?
What? No sarcasm...
I may have been a little harsh towards GlasgowWolf though... lol.
Knowing that Anderton is out is the best news the squad could have.
Now that I DO agree with.
Everyone was rejoicing when Kennedy was out and Ricketts came in, Ricketts had one half decent game and then he was back to his normal anonymous self. Let's face it, we've got a few mediocre mid-fielders.
If Jackie Mac can play defensive mid-field, then our best mid-field is probably him with Rosa and Davies. That's assuming that we stick with having 3 in mid-field with a manager that played Miller as a wing back.
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