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a 90 minute fan !

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by awsworth wolf, Jan 3, 2009.

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  1. hi all
    set off this morning with no idea that the game was in doubt , spent a bit of time in the town before catching the train out to bordesley.
    god what a hole the station is, walked up to the ground and thought it was a bit quiet, but still a number of blues fans about , but didn't see any of you lot so I thought you had turned up in disguise like me.:D
    at the ground I was told game off.
    brilliant , thinks I, what a waste of time and money on my train fare.
    then it hit me, albions at home too, back to the station and up to the hawthorns , 2.50pm arrive and find out I am a peterborough fan [could have been much worse].
    I must have looked out of place as a steward asked me if i was an away fan and pointed me in the right direction, £15 later and i am in.
    are albion fans always this quiet ?
    the posh fans were well noisy for nearly all the game, even when they went 1 down , albion very quiet.
    as for the game, i thought it was great, in my view posh should have won it and i was clapping and cheering when they equalised.
    my first visit to the hawthorns, i got the impression i was not the only wolves fan there [?] and maybe now i am at last a season ticket holder, i may even get a ticket to see wolves there.
    thanks to the posh fans, i hope they beat albion at home.
    p,s. STILL wolves until i die :)
     
  2. rincewind

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    Many years ago I went to a match in the SE (Can't even remeber where) in the old lower division days. Our game was off but having travelled for 4 hours we found another game and joined the away fans who were Hartlepool! Brilliant day, I remember talking to some Pool fans who could not at first believe how many fans they had brought down!! Chant was Hartlewolves I remeber.
     
  3. Adrian_Monk

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    My old man used to watch albion and cradley heath whenever wolves weren't playing, i think it's a generation thing, you'd struggle to get twins in paying one and a half jumping over the turnstiles now though. Glad you enjoyed your afternoon at the hawthorns.
     
  4. BlahBlah

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    Couple of my mates got as far as Brum so went to Albion as well. Said they were terrible.
     
  5. RichRalph

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    This is what football fans used to do. If their team were away and they couldn't go or if they had no game, fans would pay to go to other games. The reason this happened this weekend was because it was £15 and £5. I would suggest that nobody would hae paid £25 to go to WBA v anyone else.

    Football clubs please take note.
     
  6. Dragonwolf

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    I did much the same about ten years ago when i lived in Stirchley and our game away at Sheff Weds was called off because of snow, i walked to watch albion v. tranmere, trouble was they wouldnt accept pay on the gate at the away end so i had to sit in the scummie road end. i was lucky to survive jumping up when aldo scored.
     
  7. northnorfolkwolf

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    Here's one for the stattos! I remember driving up to Wolves from London (70s?) to see us play Liverpool and I am sure it was a night match. It was pay on the door then and there was such a big turn out I could not get near the ground and got turned away! I seem to remember listening to the game on the car radio and IIRC we lost. From the clues given any idea of the date and score?
     
  8. PeteWolf

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    It's part of the reason why clubs used to get such huge attendances. Small capacities and the season ticket culture that clubs have cultivated post-Taylor has killed this (and helped justify price rises).
     
  9. Atlas 1951

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    I think a certain tribalism had already affected the amount of floating support by then, to be honest.
     
  10. PeteWolf

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    To a certain extent, I agree, but I think the hooliganism of the late 70s and 80s had as much an effect on that as it did normal support (everyone's crowds were way down during the 80s). If all the West Midlands clubs still had big capacities (40k+ each) and ticket prices in line with other entertainment, then I think you'd see the same big attendances for big games now as then.
     
  11. Atlas 1951

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    Factor in live games on TV as well though, Pete. If you fancy seeing a game as a neutral, a pint in the pub is as good a way to enjoy it as any, for a lot of people.
     
  12. PeteWolf

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    True, but at £5-15 for tickets then that's the sort of money people are prepared to spend without thinking too much about it.
     
  13. Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)

    Very Proud (AKA Still Proud) Prouder than a proud thing in Proudville

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    April 1976 lost 3-1 I queued in Mol Alley with my dad and when we eventually got tpo the turnstile found it abandoned and had to climb over. Spent the game being passed around shoulders of Wolves and Liverpool fans.

    Cheered when the Tank gave us the lead and cried when they won! Blues drew which meant we were relegated and Liverpool won the League in front of 48k (more like 60k+) crowd which included the QPR team.
     
  14. Atlas 1951

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    But would they bother travelling to Birmingham or Stoke in order to watch a game they have nothing invested in, when they could just as easily go to the pub with friends and see a game on the box?

    It is curious that the price of football has risen in inverse proportion to the demand, but even if ticket prices were lower, I'm not sure how many people would make the effort to see Birmingham against Reading when Man Utd are playing Liverpool at 5.15. Before the nineteen sixties or seventies, a working man had a straight choice of entertainment for a Saturday afternoon: watch football or have an afternoon session in the pub (before the obligatory evening session). Things have changed; there are many more distractions.

    Non-league football used to get quite a bit of floating support; I don't know if that's still true. At eight quid or so to stand at Marston Road, Stafford, I wouldn't bother these days.
     
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    Hey SP, thanks for that - what a memory. Knew it must have been a big game for me to get to Wolvo mid-week in those days. Shame I coudn't get in!!!!!
     
  16. PeteWolf

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    Oh, I'm not saying it would be every game they do it, nor was it the case back then, but when the Man Utd's, Arsenal's, Chelsea's, etc. come to town, or a passionate local derby then I think people would happily go along to that given cheap prices and knowing you can turn up on the day and get in without having to arrange tickets weeks in advance. Allocated seating is another hurdle, but with sufficient capacity, then not one that can't be overcome.

    Regarding non-league, attendances have quite dramatically dropped compared to what teams used to average. Unfortunately non-league clubs are in the awkward position that as a percentage of income they rely on money from the gate far more than league clubs do, so it's a case of needing to keep prices relatively high, but at the same time that is something that will turn away the casual fan. It's catch 22 really.
     
  17. leedswolf

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    I was there too. I left Stone at approx 4pm and got my car eventually parked at 630!!!!!!!!!!!! The roads were packed with cars heading south from Liverpool.

    The ground was packed and the turnstiles shut. I climbed the gate at the end of The Waterloo Road Stand/North Bank corner.
     
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    After a jaunt around jockland many years ago travelling back down south the clayheads were at home (IIRC against Bluenoses) with Alan Hudson playing I went to to that game puely to see Hudson and he didn`t let me down..
     
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    Back in the late 60's/early 70's I couldn't get to many of Wolves' away games or if Wolves hadn't got a fixture I would go to any one of Stoke, Walsall or Stafford Rangers to get my Saturday/midweek fix. When I first came up to leeds I occasionaly went to selected none Wolves fixtures at Elland Road.
     
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  20. Atlas 1951

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    My Dad always says that wherever Stanley Matthews played, he added ten thousand to the gate.

    As a kid in the seventies, it was very much the other way around: the old man baulked at the derbies and the big teams, favouring fixtures against the likes of Bolton, Middlesbrough and Bristol City. Fair enough, with two young kids to look after, and frankly, even in those games, the atmosphere was still enough to make my dirty little knees tremble in that tight old ground, particularly at night.

    I went the opposite route: my little boy's first game was a derby match in front of 55,000, and he'd only just turned three -- minimum age for admittance. The little love got confused and started chanting "Chivas, Chivas" in the second half, much to the amusement of those around us (no segregation) but I forgave him, as we won three-nil -- the last time we beat those $$$$$$$s. But even here it's getting messy now, in the Argentinian style, and I don't think I'd take him to one of those games if we weren't invited to a box.
     
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    A transit van full of us travelled to Luton away around 10 years ago, only to be told the game was called off a 1pm.

    Driving back up the M6 and we realised Walsall were at home, got in the ground at 5 to 3 to watch a 5-2 home win. Only cost £6 to get in their standing home end. Probably cost triple that now.
     
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    I did the Luton game and ended up at Walsall as well. Stayed in the club and played domies and got $$$$ed though rather than watch the football.
     

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