Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by Burton Wolf, Feb 8, 2015.
Yes it was one major reason!
Before 1992 if I talked football with someone they usually had an inkling of what the $$$$ they were talking about, these days there's so many clowns regurgitating what $$$$ers like Redknapp and Hoddle say, $$$$ing numb nuts
I don't even remember the premier league coming about: I was really unwell that year and spent most of it in hospital! No internet then of course
Its all beach ball and bedroom slippers nowadays
Yes it was better.
Grounds had atmosphere and were intimidating places to visit. The only intimidating thing about standing in a huge concourse queuing up for Chicken Chow Mein like at the Emirates is the prices!
Somewhere along the way amongst the shiny new stadiums, the Sky coverage and the Internet football has lost its soul. It's become the sport equivalent of the X-Factor, fans don't follow their teams in the same way as they used to, they demand success instantly and all think they know best. Information or mid-information is just a click away, everybody knows best, everybody is in the know and the football is secondary.
Its not all bad today. We shouldnt underestimate how many people wouldnt even think of taking their kids to a match in the 70s/80s because of perceptions of it being unsafe.
Overall though football was far better then than now.
I could go on for ages on this but I just think football has become like soap opera now. Many more people interested in it than back in the day but a fr more shallow interest than there used to be. The game has made us consumers rather than fans.
Some things better, some things worse. Great pitches now encourages better football. Foreign players have made the game better but to the detriment of the England side. Whilst it's all too tame for me now you can at least take the family. Sky have made the Prem the only place to be but football is now all geared for the fat Man Utd supporting bloke in the arm chair by the fire with his beer and chips. Football has lost its soul and its roots and prices dictate it is a game aimed at the more affluent middle classes who may drop in for a season or 2 but will likely disappear if something better comes along. Give me the days when Wolves were a first division side, Waggy was tearing past full backs on mud patches and swinging over crosses for the Doog to head in. Give me the days where there was an edge both inside and outside the ground, where you wore your colours with pride but at the same time risked going home in an ambulance! Give me back my football.
one quote from the link that I didn't agree with:
"Dave Woodhall, editor of Aston Villa fanzine Heroes & Villains, said: "It's incredible so many continued to watch football. You'd pay to watch a football match (and) you couldn't even see the whole pitch because of the fences; the layers of terracing. Oxford was a classic example. "A lot of us who would like to get the old days back, what we really want is our youth back." "
naw i can't agree with the highlighted part at all. while it may be true for some folks who may be yearning for their youth, it cannot be denied that the whole culture around football has changed since the 70's and 80's
In fact you could say that is just symptomatic of what changes have taken place in society since the 70's: everything, not just football is brutally commercialised, everything is about marketing an experience to draw in consumers blah blah blah
you have teams of people constantly devising new ways to make money out of people and the things they enjoy doing
we are saturated by consumerism and football too has been grabbed by the throat by money makers who are screwing every penny out of it that can be made....all at the expense of the fans
I would very much like my youth back but it's nothing to do with views on football past and present.
The hijacking for profit only for the few has removed the essential part of football and the game. In a word it's 'soul'
One of the things I hate nowadays is the way "celebrities " support the big teams particularly ManU. They flit from one team to another.
There'll be discussions like this in 2045 where people hark back to the heyday of 2015.
It's just nostalgia.
I seriously doubt many Wolves fans in 2045 will reminisce about much in the period 2000-2015, perhaps Cardiff and the odd Prem win over Utd?
I'm not saying that 2015 is a particularly sparkling period for football, but anything written about it 30 years from now will focus exclusively on the positives like Messi and Ronaldo, and people around in 2015 will probably get all misty-eyed over it.
Exactly it's just people getting older, it's the same with music & bands.
Depends who is doing the focusing.
I and a healthy few I speak too look back on what was with as much balance as possible - bad and good.
It is being aware nostalgia plays it part which ensures a healthy balance.
That enough fans and players have the view that much has been lost should be argument enough that some of the past game was better.
Do you think fans of the 50's & 60's looked at the 70's & 80's & wondered the same thing. Players just kicking each other, fighting, gentlemanly conduct gone, stupid hair cuts & players living champagne lifestyles on bigger money etc different from the common man.
Riots in the stands, violence all the time, banned from europe, ticket price increases & whatever else.
Best memories for me were indeed the seventies.waggy,the doog,Richards,and last but not least hughie curran.my first ever game at wolves was against chelsea.wolves won 3-1,think curran scored 2 that day,please put me right on that,might of been 69/70.god that south bank was big!!!
old bands are way better than todays
thats not nostalgia
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