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Iain Hume

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix Archive' started by lmuwolf, Nov 24, 2008.

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  1. lmuwolf

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    Back in hospital tonight. Breaking News on SSN. Hope the lad is ok and its only a precaution. Surely the fa need to do something about this as its a joke. My best wishes go out to him, his family, friends and everyone associated with Barnsley football club.
     
  2. Deutsch Wolf

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    They can't while legal action is being mooted as any disciplinary action would prejudice any potential trial, civil or criminal. See Barton/Dabo.
     
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    Sorry Deutsch didn't know that, can see where your coming from, i hope the lad is going to be ok and that its only a precautionary measure.
     
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    Yep, seconded.

    Awful refereeing to book Morgan, he obviously saw there was an offence, so why a yellow card and not a red?
     
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    Should the severity of the injury determine the severity of the punishment? Had the thug missed Hume's head but with the same intent I'm not sure there would have been the same outcry. Yet in the laws of football the same rule would have been broken.

    I cannot believe that the Sheff Utd player set out to cause such a serious injury but perhaps it might make other players think twice before attempting a malicious challenge.

    But.....if we go down the route of determining punishment on the basis of injury severity it is a very dangerous (and subjective) approach. If all fouls to the head carried the same punishment because of the potential severity fair enough, but they don't.
     
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    Best wishes to Hume. Made me feel a bit sick seeing the reports and operation scar on SSN the other day.
     
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    I see what you're saying. But then there's a massive difference between say, Martin Taylor's challenge on Eduardo, and Chris Morgan's challenge on Iain Hume. Both were poor challenges deserving of a red card and resulted in serious injury to the victim. But for me, Morgan's was cynical and thuggish, while Taylor was just too slow and clumsy.

    There can be no doubt that Morgan intended to hurt Hume, the extent to which he was damaged is not important. The man has a track record of this kind of behaviour and it was so blatant as to be virtually off the ball.

    The FA should punish cynicism and cheating, regardless of severity of injury.
     
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    I hope Hume is ok and fully recovers as I read it's just a precaution but on the other hand and from a completely selfish point of view I hope it gets into Morgans head for tommorows game and Iwelumo/SEB take full advantage.
     
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    He won't care, he's a thug, it's the only way he can play. The Muscat type who'll thump people on the blind side of the referee and stamp on players when no-one's looking. A blight on football.

    As I said on another thread, at least he won't be able to bully our forwards - especially Iwelumo who'd have him for breakfast.
     
  10. Shifnal Wolf

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    Hope Hume recovers quickly and gets back to playing (looks increasing doubtful though). Always liked him as a player at Tranmere and find it astonishing that Morgan has stil got away with it so far. Brings up the issue that a player should be suspended for as long as the player he injured is out (in exceptional circumstances) as this looked pre-arranged by Morgan
     
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    It was off the ball; Hume was elbowed, fell down, then Morgan headed the ball away
     
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    Yes, perhaps I should have been clearer on the issue of intent. Fouls happen in football and it is the intent that should be judged severely. Still, I hope Morgan didn't set out to cause such an injury but if you go for the head these can be the consequences and as such any intentional foul to the head should be treated the same whether it causes a serious injury.....or missed.
     
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    don't see any news on this online anywhere?? :confused:
     
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    Have you watched the footage SB? It is clear that Morgan deliberately elbowed Hulme in the head, with enormous force. It was a brutal, malicious, premeditated action. I hope he is sued, as this type of assault has no place in what still is a game of sport.
     
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    Just watched the incident, there is little doubt in my mind as to if it was deliverate or not.
     
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    It wasn't off the ball, but he definitely threw an elbow. Disgraceful.
     
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    If it was in the US, he'd be in hot water
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggshell_skull
     
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    Spot on JR this was entirely premeditated and an assault of the worst kind. I hope all the authorities deal with this quickly and robustly - however as we are potentially talking police/CPS on the one hand and FA on the other I'm not holding my breath.

    Apparently it's against human rights legislation to hold someone accountable for anything :rolleyes:
     
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    Deutsch I hope you aren`t tempting fate. It doesn`t matter how hard you are if someone hits you when you`re not expecting it damage will normally result..

    I just hope CI doesn`t try to get in first or retaliate as he hasn`t been having much luck with referees in the protection stakes.. (re St Ledger for one)
     
  21. jabbawolf

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    I think this Morgan/Hume debate really emphasises that tonight is a night for cool heads - silly red cards, broken legs etc will hurt us.

    The atmosphere will be hot - we need to take the sting out of the situation by staying in control of our emotions.

    I am trusting that Mick will not try and fire them up a la Warnock, but go for a hard but fair attitude.
     
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    Where have I said he shouldn't be held to account? What I have argued is that there should be consistency and everyone should be held to account for their actions and that it should not be dependent on the seriousness of the injury.

    At least have the decency to read what I've said rather than make some $$$$ty comment...
     
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    I understand your sentiment but it can't work like that though. The anology would be with a speeding driver. They all know they've over the speed limit but some get away with it and others kill and injure. Morgan went to hurt Hulme and did so. I wish Iain all the best but he has been maimed for life and may well struggle to play professional football again. Morgan should be punished for the outcome of his actions.
     
  24. Atlas 1951

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    There's always the hope that Morgan's reputation precedes him and referees keep him on a very tight leash.
     
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    What's the worst that could happen if Mick whacked Morgan with a crutch?
     
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    Depends whose crotch he used:eek:
     
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    Lol requote. I was very careful to avoid writing that!
     
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    The FA are taking no action against Morgan (SSN). Work that one out.
     
  29. Toon Wolf

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    As mentioned elsewhere, maybe so as not to prejudice any future court case. If not that reason, it further backs the claim that the FA are a bunch of inconsistent, spineless $$$$$$s who have no place in football and should be replaced with people who know what the $$$$ they're doing.
     
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    Shameful. This will allow Morgan to carry out with his on field thuggery. I hope Chris and Sylvian get through tonights game intact.
     
  31. Kenny-11

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    If it was Joey Barton he would have a 20 game ban by now
     
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    FA give licence to kill!
     
  33. Bedford Wolf

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    It's all about being seen to be backing the referee.

    If the ref had missed the incident they could do what ever they wanted to Morgan, but as the ref saw it and took action by booking him they won't do a thing. If they handed out further punishment to Morgan after the ref had punished the bloke they'd be saying to the world that the ref got it wrong. That would never do as we all know that the ref is always right. Even if the he's wrong, he's always right.

    Something else that's wrong with the game...
     
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    Take your shirt off, go and hug the fans and the $$$$$$s come down on you like a ton of bricks, be a thug and unless they are pushed into a corner the FA will do bugger all..


    An FA spokesman said: "When judging whether to take disciplinary action in this case, The FA has had to consider the challenge itself and not the outcome of it.

    So the FA are saying there was nothing wrong with the challenge,$$$$$

    "The FA has been given express direction from Fifa that we cannot upgrade yellow cards to red.

    Cop out, $$$$$

    "On this basis, we can only bring additional charges in the most exceptional cases and only if it can be proved beyond doubt that the actions of a player were a deliberate attempt to injure an opponent.

    Further excuse to enable cop out, $$$$$
    "Having reviewed all available evidence in this case, including submissions made by Barnsley, there is no basis on which an additional charge could be brought."

    The final cop out..
    $$$$$ the lot of em..
     
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    Wish we had Elokobi fit. Man mark Morgan and do him over. Can you imagine how funny it would be to watch the chase from the stands!!!
     
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    It must just be me having seen the challenge, Morgan looks at the ball, Hume looks at the ball.

    Hume runs towards Morgan, Morgan puts his arm out to stop him from running, definate foul.... Deserved yellow card.

    No Delberate looking and doing, Over the top reaction by everyone due to the horrendous injury sustained.

    Yes it was a nasty injury, yes it was life threatening injury.

    I felt sick when I saw the scar, but it was accidental.
     
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    Morgan deserves a broken eye socket that's for sure.

    GlasgowWolf - Morgan has been brawling on the pitch for years and acting a thug, it was only a matter of time before the Iain Hume incident happened.
     

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