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Listening to plastic face Jordons rant yesterday, I hope that we can create a **** em all atmosphere around the whole club, the criticism Rob Edwards has received so far after leaving a championship club to join at present a Premier league team has been nothing short of pathetic,
We have never been welcome in the greed league, how many seasons were we top of the incorrect VAR decisions.
I am surprised that Rob Edwards took the job, however unlike GON he has gained a good few years managerial experience and with inferior players even to our present squad.
My avatar give a clue to my opinion of the idiot in charge of the whole club, but the way that Wolverhampton Wanderers are being lambasted by the media is almost as disrespectful as the sneering we got when Nuno arrived.
For me with every Gold and Black bone in my body and for the remainder of this season I will support Rob Edwards and the players that buy into his tactics.
**** EM ALL.
 
groundhogwolf said:
Listening to plastic face Jordons rant yesterday, I hope that we can create a **** em all atmosphere around the whole club, the criticism Rob Edwards has received so far after leaving a championship club to join at present a Premier league team has been nothing short of pathetic,
We have never been welcome in the greed league, how many seasons were we top of the incorrect VAR decisions.
I am surprised that Rob Edwards took the job, however unlike GON he has gained a good few years managerial experience and with inferior players even to our present squad.
My avatar give a clue to my opinion of the idiot in charge of the whole club, but the way that Wolverhampton Wanderers are being lambasted by the media is almost as disrespectful as the sneering we got when Nuno arrived.
For me with every Gold and Black bone in my body and for the remainder of this season I will support Rob Edwards and the players that buy into his tactics.
**** EM ALL.
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I agree with your final comment but that's usually the final lament of a drowning man.
 
old wittonian said:
I agree with your final comment but that's usually the final lament of a drowning man.
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I can appreciate how everyone is feeling, however after all those years of falling short in the championship, the fact is that at this point in time we are still a Premier league club, and I agree if all the players roll over we will only remain one for 27 more games.
So if they do fight will you support them.
 
groundhogwolf said:
100% however the **** was in the castle when we went to Wembley and Europe.
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Yes, but he was a Faithful back then. He's a Traitor, now.


[Note for clarity: I have never watched an episode of the Traitors and have no idea what the game is or how it works. I only know there are two sides and they have great names, ideal for this joke]
 
I think the frustrating thing about all the London media crying is that everything i have heard has missed the bigger picture.

Edwards, from the outside looks a strange move but he played for us, his family live in the area, coached here in the youth set up. Add that to if he see Wolves as his dream job, would he ever get offered it again?

Fosun, a few have mentioned it, the article today that is floating around did. Nobody seems to be digging further in the media then, sell your best players this is what happens. If we were a London club or a more fashionable one media would be in uproar over our ownership
 
groundhogwolf said:
Listening to plastic face Jordons rant yesterday, I hope that we can create a **** em all atmosphere around the whole club, the criticism Rob Edwards has received so far after leaving a championship club to join at present a Premier league team has been nothing short of pathetic,
We have never been welcome in the greed league, how many seasons were we top of the incorrect VAR decisions.
I am surprised that Rob Edwards took the job, however unlike GON he has gained a good few years managerial experience and with inferior players even to our present squad.
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Absolutely agree on Jordan's whining. Never any comment when the Sky 6 take managers from the little clubs. Never any comment when PL clubs in general just pluck the best managers and players from clubs all over Europe. Actually, I do remember some snidey comments when we were getting top Portugese players. That faded away since we started gettimg the also-rans instead. But generally, the media here are full of the idea that the best all "belong" in the Premier League without any consideration for the clubs they are taken from.

Though on your last comment, let's hope we don't get drawn against Boro in the cup! It's a team game and right now, other than 2 or 3 players, top half Championship teams are probably all better than us as a team.
 
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northnorfolkwolf said:
I think RE let Boro down BIG TIME. They gave him a chance and he's basically kicked them in the teeth. If this was the other way around I guarantee you we'd ****ing hate Edwards for doing this. Imo it puts us as a Club in a very bad light.
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He's done it before, too. 4 clubs in 4 years. As much a journeyman as Perreira and Zenga!

Agree on it reflecting badly on us. As if our pathetic league record doesn't do that enough already. I can't believe there isn't a comparable manager out of work somewhere who could have joined us. Wait till Brighton or Fulham need a new manager, they'll find one alright withough stealing some journeyman from the Championship.

Oh, and if Jeff is the reason why managers don't find us appealing, then sack him! Get rid of the blockage. If this is how Fosun are run, I can see why they've lost value in the last few years.
 
northnorfolkwolf said:
I think RE let Boro down BIG TIME. They gave him a chance and he's basically kicked them in the teeth. If this was the other way around I guarantee you we'd ****ing hate Edwards for doing this. Imo it puts us as a Club in a very bad light.
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I doubt Wolves were pointing a gun to his head, forcing him to come.
 
Ginger Chimp said:
Yes, but he was a Faithful back then. He's a Traitor, now.


[Note for clarity: I have never watched an episode of the Traitors and have no idea what the game is or how it works. I only know there are two sides and they have great names, ideal for this joke]
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He would have been out first week, bet he even lies to himself
 
Contrarian said:
He's done it before, too. 4 clubs in 4 years. As much a journeyman as Perreira and Zenga!

Agree on it reflecting badly on us. As if our pathetic league record doesn't do that enough already. I can't believe there isn't a comparable manager out of work somewhere who could have joined us. Wait till Brighton or Fulham need a new manager, they'll find one alright withough stealing some journeyman from the Championship.

Oh, and if Jeff is the reason why managers don't find us appealing, then sack him! Get rid of the blockage. If this is how Fosun are run, I can see why they've lost value in the last few years.
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For balance Nuno has had 5 jobs in that period, would you have rejected that “journeyman” ?
 
I don't have a problem with people upset with Rob Edwards. They are mostly either overly-emotional football supporters who have an unrealistic expectation of loyalty for players and managers, and struggle to understand when they treat football as a job, unfairly holding the majority to the standard of the minority, or football club owners like Simon Jordan who have been stung previously and use examples like this to back up things they've said previously, furthering an agenda.

Personally, what Edwards has done doesn't bother me, likewise what Nunes, Boly, Cunha etc did doesn't bother me either. But you have to be consistent, you can't really have it both ways.
 
WolvesAndCows said:
I doubt Wolves were pointing a gun to his head, forcing him to come.
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He should have shown some loyalty to a club who gave him a chance. Very bad by him and as Contrarian says above, I'm sure we could have found an equally good manager without shafting another club?
 
Adrian_Monk said:
I don't have a problem with people upset with Rob Edwards. They are mostly either overly-emotional football supporters who have an unrealistic expectation of loyalty for players and managers, and struggle to understand when they treat football as a job, unfairly holding the majority to the standard of the minority, or football club owners like Simon Jordan who have been stung previously and use examples like this to back up things they've said previously, furthering an agenda.

Personally, what Edwards has done doesn't bother me, likewise what Nunes, Boly, Cunha etc did doesn't bother me either. But you have to be consistent, you can't really have it both ways.
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I guarantee it that had Edwards done to us what he's done to Boro you would not be so forgiving.
 
groundhogwolf said:
Listening to plastic face Jordons rant yesterday, I hope that we can create a **** em all atmosphere around the whole club, the criticism Rob Edwards has received so far after leaving a championship club to join at present a Premier league team has been nothing short of pathetic,
We have never been welcome in the greed league, how many seasons were we top of the incorrect VAR decisions.
I am surprised that Rob Edwards took the job, however unlike GON he has gained a good few years managerial experience and with inferior players even to our present squad.
My avatar give a clue to my opinion of the idiot in charge of the whole club, but the way that Wolverhampton Wanderers are being lambasted by the media is almost as disrespectful as the sneering we got when Nuno arrived.
For me with every Gold and Black bone in my body and for the remainder of this season I will support Rob Edwards and the players that buy into his tactics.
**** EM ALL.
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Why is it pathetic? They are views and opinions just like yours. Can we stop playing the victim all the time. We are not being lambasted. There is critical analysis if the appointment. That is what happens. Sounds like you just need a big hug.

I think Jordan is correct. He has **** on Boro. They gave him a three year contract after he relegated Luton. Supported him. And when we came calling they said no, Rob is critical for us. And he has ran off.

It is entirely his own choice if course. But decisions have consequences.
 
northnorfolkwolf said:
I think RE let Boro down BIG TIME. They gave him a chance and he's basically kicked them in the teeth. If this was the other way around I guarantee you we'd ****ing hate Edwards for doing this. Imo it puts us as a Club in a very bad light.
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Laughable response. Its a cut throat industry where scouts troop around u8 games, trying to get one up over a rival. An industry, where agents, journalists and managers use a deep bag of dog**** tricks to undermine teams who might have a player they want to acquire.

And suddenly it becomes a sport of honour and nobility, where dreadful Wolves have broken the unspeaken code of generations by approaching a club
to see if they could talk to their manager, (who had a release clause written into his contract).

Please.......

Its a fake media storm, run with the usual London and Northwest bias, with the usual "Top Six " bias.

Wolves have far too often becomes easy walkovers in recent times, not taken seriously by the media or
fans. It feels good that the club has gone out and exploited a strength in a more ruthless way, ie taken
a young coach with local roots away from a potential future rival. Lets see more of this kind of ruthlessness.
 
northnorfolkwolf said:
I think RE let Boro down BIG TIME. They gave him a chance and he's basically kicked them in the teeth. If this was the other way around I guarantee you we'd ****ing hate Edwards for doing this. Imo it puts us as a Club in a very bad light.
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Sorry Simon,
But for my part I have no concerns for Boro, or their fans, I have enough football issues of my own. Our ship somehow or other needs to be steadied and it will not come from the top.
Whether the club is in a good or bad light is unfortunately down to interpretation and the narrative spouted by the media.
All I see is every man and his dog piling into the club, primarily because of one useless individual.
 
northnorfolkwolf said:
He should have shown some loyalty to a club who gave him a chance. Very bad by him and as Contrarian says above, I'm sure we could have found an equally good manager without shafting another club?
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Yes he should, but Wolves won't care about that. Getting Edwards in, has saved Jeff the embarrassment of getting rejected by all the other candidates. It's an easy appointment for Jeff, who has perhaps known for years that Rob would take the job, if all else fails.
 
Adrian_Monk said:
I don't have a problem with people upset with Rob Edwards. They are mostly either overly-emotional football supporters who have an unrealistic expectation of loyalty for players and managers, and struggle to understand when they treat football as a job, unfairly holding the majority to the standard of the minority, or football club owners like Simon Jordan who have been stung previously and use examples like this to back up things they've said previously, furthering an agenda.

Personally, what Edwards has done doesn't bother me, likewise what Nunes, Boly, Cunha etc did doesn't bother me either. But you have to be consistent, you can't really have it both ways.
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Agreed. I think "wah wah" is an appropriate title for the thread as it seems to be the noise many fans are making in response to their new pantomime villain, Simon Jordan.

I can remember similar responses to Paul Merson back in the day. That though was rather more justified as Merson seemed to have a default dislike for our club. Jordan to my mind has said nothing wrong.
 
At the end of the day, was there a release clause in RE's contract?

If there was and we have activated it, what have both parties done wrong?

Anyway, Simon Jordan needs to stay away from the sunbed and learn to make a decent living, rather than spout his mouth on a second rate chat show!
 
bigwolf said:
Why is it pathetic? They are views and opinions just like yours. Can we stop playing the victim all the time. We are not being lambasted. There is critical analysis if the appointment. That is what happens. Sounds like you just need a big hug.

I think Jordan is correct. He has **** on Boro. They gave him a three year contract after he relegated Luton. Supported him. And when we came calling they said no, Rob is critical for us. And he has ran off.

It is entirely his own choice if course. But decisions have consequences.
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We will have to agree to disagree, the current circumstances are not of our making but as a supporter of Wolves, listening to the endless criticism of all associated with the club primary because of the inept actions and decisions of one person, but for Jordon to say that he hopes the club is relegated without any regard for the people that have followed this club, is not justified.
Loyalty and football lol.
 
The issue I have with Simon Jordan is that his criticism wouldn't be consistent.

All of his gripes were with Edwards to Middlesbrough for a lack of loyalty, integrity etc. So, according to him, in theory, whatever club Edwards joined would prompt the same outrage.

Am I supposed to believe he would go in two-footed like this if Edwards joined Everton, West Ham or even a Man Utd for example? Not a chance.

Also, calling us a 'crap job' is unfair. We have crap owners, but on what planet is it worse than Middlesbrough? There's a very high chance IMO that we will both be in the Championship next season and we will be favourites to win promotion before Boro.

We have a richer history, we have bigger attendances and, most importantly to the here and now, we will have a higher valued squad on relegation.

I don't care for Boro either, no problem with them, I understand their reaction, but if we're in the same division, we are a more attractive job.

Now, the situation might change 3/4 years down the line when we don't have parachute payments. Then, the quality of owner can really be tested, and it's no-contest, Steve Gibson is a better owner by a million miles.

However, in a realistic world, I think Edwards is backing himself to take us up next season as opposed to Middlesbrough and logic would say that is a smart move - and it will be reflected in the odds.

I have no problems with Boro fans thinking he's a snake either, I totally understand that and would feel the same if I was them. But there has been a narrative, which it seems to have been started by Simon Jordan, that he is stupid for taking this job and it's been allowed to run and run with others jumping on.
 
Who cares, managers, coaches and players leave clubs for others all the time, it’s happened to us previously and will happen again, people need to chill out, and re’ Jordan, was every single manager, coach and player they ever employed out of contract? No, so he needs to wind his neck in
 
SteveBullsKnee said:
For balance Nuno has had 5 jobs in that period, would you have rejected that “journeyman” ?
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Of course! Grumpy old Nuno..there's no going back..etc etc

MAybe there is a little difference in that Nuno won a league title and KO cup in Saudi and got Forest into Europe. Portugese cup final with mighty Rio Ave.. The best achievement by a pronoted Championship club to the PL this century. I'm not sure that Nuno has ever left a club to jump to a higher one. So Nuno has both achieved more than Edwards and has shown more integrity in taking new jobs. Nuno's problem is too often sacked for falling out with owners, often after success on the pitch.
 
There’s no need for any siege mentality — this will all blow over quickly. The media cycle moves faster than ever, and people have the attention span of a goldfish these days. It’s a semi-big story right now (if that), but give it a month and no one will care.

Forest were getting it from all angles for sacking Nuno and then the Ange debacle, but now Dyche is there, everyone has moved on. Same thing will happen here.
 
WeAreTheWolvesII said:
However, in a realistic world, I think Edwards is backing himself to take us up next season as opposed to Middlesbrough and logic would say that is a smart move - and it will be reflected in the odds.
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Logic? May I introduce you to Jeff Shi, the man with a logic bypass. Whatever logically should happen, he will find a way to scupper it. Logically, we shouldn't even be in this position at all.
 
northnorfolkwolf said:
I think RE let Boro down BIG TIME. They gave him a chance and he's basically kicked them in the teeth. If this was the other way around I guarantee you we'd ****ing hate Edwards for doing this. Imo it puts us as a Club in a very bad light.
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This may be the first time I have agreed with you.
 
Scallywolf said:
At the end of the day, was there a release clause in RE's contract?

If there was and we have activated it, what have both parties done wrong?

Anyway, Simon Jordan needs to stay away from the sunbed and learn to make a decent living, rather than spout his mouth on a second rate chat show!
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I doubt there was release clause after 6 months? RE has behaved intolerably imo and Wolves have been no better. Once we were not given permission to talk to RE we should have respected that and walked away, irrespective of RE's views. RE and Wolves come out of this very badly imo.
 
ws1wolf said:
Who cares, managers, coaches and players leave clubs for others all the time, it’s happened to us previously and will happen again, people need to chill out, and re’ Jordan, was every single manager, coach and player they ever employed out of contract? No, so he needs to wind his neck in
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Do you have no principles in life?
 
northnorfolkwolf said:
I doubt there was release clause after 6 months? RE has behaved intolerably imo and Wolves have been no better. Once we were not given permission to talk to RE we should have respected that and walked away, irrespective of RE's views. RE and Wolves come out of this very badly imo.
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Loefah said:
There’s no need for any siege mentality — this will all blow over quickly. The media cycle moves faster than ever, and people have the attention span of a goldfish these days. It’s a semi-big story right now (if that), but give it a month and no one will care.

Forest were getting it from all angles for sacking Nuno and then the Ange debacle, but now Dyche is there, everyone has moved on. Same thing will happen here.
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Well of course and it's only football at the end of the day. It doesn't make it right though does it?
 
Contrarian said:
Oh, and if Jeff is the reason why managers don't find us appealing, then sack him! Get rid of the blockage. If this is how Fosun are run, I can see why they've lost value in the last few years.
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This is what I find astonishing. Jeff has been haemmorhaging money for years - paid off Nuno, paid off, Lage, paid off JLO, paid off GON, paid off VP paid off all of their back-room/support staff in turn. You would have thought someone in Fosun would have gone 'hang on a minute, whats going on here...?
 
lobodelsur said:
This is what I find astonishing. Jeff has been haemmorhaging money for years - paid off Nuno, paid off, Lage, paid off JLO, paid off GON, paid off VP paid off all of their back-room/support staff in turn. You would have thought someone in Fosun would have gone 'hang on a minute, whats going on here...?
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Exactly so. I keep saying, Fosun are hanging on to us for a reason but I can't see what that reason is. But that is a subject for another thread.
 
northnorfolkwolf said:
Do you have no principles in life?
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Mate don’t question my morals and principles based on my support of a football team, have you never told a lie, gone 1 mph over the speed limit, swore in public? Get off your high horse?

Cunha, Ait Nouri were both under contract, shall we cry because they’ve gone to other clubs?
VP was under contract when he came to save us last season, did you feel the same then? Edwards had a release clause, you know what that means don’t you? It means they will release him of someone approaches him
 
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