Toti Gomes

[Dan G WWFC]

Not technically good enough for me, awful on the ball. Keeps getting it stuck underneath him because of his touch, good 1v1 defender but not the kind we need if we want to progress

I think he had a positive impact because of his pace but I wouldn't trust him in a back 4

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

Yeah he has attributes no doubt, if we played 3 at the back with two passing CBs he could work OK I suppose

 

[AndyY]

Not technically good enough for me, awful on the ball. Keeps getting it stuck underneath him because of his touch, good 1v1 defender but not the kind we need if we want to progress

Maybe we need a good 1v1 defender?

 

[Stoichkov]

Coady rushed out but Gomes played mane onside for their first. Just needs to sharpen up but lots to be positive about

 

[Ditton Wolf]

Bit harsh some of the comments for a young upcoming player. Same comments made by some about Kilman in the past.

I would say he’s played pretty well and will improve given time.

Remember he has just played against one of the best teams in Europe and didn’t look too out of place.

 

[Adrian_Monk]

Not technically good enough for me, awful on the ball. Keeps getting it stuck underneath him because of his touch, good 1v1 defender but not the kind we need if we want to progress

I agree. He's a decent enough player but he needs to improve his touch. His anticipation is ok and he has great physical qualities. Needs a few seasons to develop, hopefully not with us in the championship

 

[maws]

I’m thinking I saw a different player to others, he was superb bar one error that boly covered, but what do I know, glad there are so many budding Peps on the mix

 

[Berlin Wolf]

I thought Toti played well today, brave and confident against top quality players.

 

[Krispy Kreme]

Good defender for the squad, got a lot of growing up to do though, use of the ball and positioning let him down at the highest level.

 

[OLDGOLD]

He has had what...4 starts in the premier league.
Imo for a young inexperienced player he looks bloody good to me.

 

[Ned]

He’s one of those defenders who clearly has a rick in him. I’d keep the faith with him though as he has got a lot of potential so needs games.

 

[DPE]

Looks solid if a little raw, needs to be playing and forming a partnership with those around him. Doesn’t need to be sent our on loan just played more.

 

[Abbobrom]

That's what we have coaches for. A good coach should improve a player by at least 20 percent.

 

[Cousins78]

Should never have been dropped for saiss, we were awful when he came in after afcon

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

I’m thinking I saw a different player to others, he was superb bar one error that boly covered, but what do I know, glad there are so many budding Peps on the mix

Sorry for having a different opinion Sir Alex

 

[maws]

Sorry for having a different opinion Sir Alex

If the hat fits you tend to be the one to pick it up

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

If the hat fits you tend to be the one to pick it up

Least I had the balls to quote

 

[Alex Rae The Substitute]

Thought he was solid today.

Overall in the handful of games I’ve seen him play this season I’d say he’s been pretty good on the whole.

Plenty of potential there.

 

[Wolf-Pack]

Very mature performance for a young, inexperienced, player. The way he carries the ball out of defence is superb. Very confident you lad. Yes, he needs to improve, but a great performance against one of the best teams in the world!
I think this lad along with Kilman, the future is looking bright!
Hopefully he gets a decent preseason and more opportunity to develop next year.

 

[Brockmoorwolf]

Lots to like about this guy and the more he plays the better he will get. Replaces saiss in the squad for me.

 

[Eastern Wolf]

Played well generally yesterday. Didn't look out of place against one of the best attacks in the world.
Good natural defender. Fast and good on the ball. Tends to panic a bit though and his distribution needs working on. In my eyes he is better, but definitely no worse, than Sais post African Cup.
More games will see him calm down, get better understanding of his team mates and of the PL and improve his passing. Never mind one for the future. Hes already shown he's good enough for the PL now.
Bruno has shown a mistake not to have played him more often especially with the dodgy recent form of Sais.

 

[Huyton W88lvo]

I thought Boly was excellent yesterday the polar opposite to the Norwich game . His aerial ability and general defending/ blocks were the Boly of old . However it will be interesting to see whether the squad overhaul will mean the end of Saiss Moutinho Neves Boly which is a big solid chunk of the team . As so many appear to suggest Raul and Coady need replacing too this is probably far too drastic an overhaul which could prove disastrous. Gomes was very good I thought

 

[lets all have a disco]

I thought Boly was excellent yesterday the polar opposite to the Norwich game . His aerial ability and general defending/ blocks were the Boly of old . However it will be interesting to see whether the squad overhaul will mean the end of Saiss Moutinho Neves Boly which is a big solid chunk of the team . As so many appear to suggest Raul and Coady need replacing too this is probably far too drastic an overhaul which could prove disastrous. Gomes was very good I thought

When boly is just asked to defend he is fine.....when he is asked to get the ball off the keeper and take on the whole team like against man city then he is gonna look woeful....

I thought Norwich summed it up...all over the place first half but , second half when he was just asked to do the simple defending, block, tackle , head it and mark pukki he hardly put a foot wrong....

We ask him to do too much as the ball carrying centre half I think.

 

[Deleted member drgr12429]

Very mature performance for a young, inexperienced, player. The way he carries the ball out of defence is superb. Very confident you lad. Yes, he needs to improve, but a great performance against one of the best teams in the world!
I think this lad along with Kilman, the future is looking bright!
Hopefully he gets a decent preseason and more opportunity to develop next year.

That's the thing. He's had 4 games and has looked decent in every one. You need time to gel as a back line. A whole pre season of training and matches and he'll be great with Kilman and whoever they are bringing in.
I'd add he has speed too, which is what is wanted in a high line defence.

 

[Corporate Wolf]

The lad is quality.

That's the thing. He's had 4 games and has looked decent in every one. You need time to gel as a back line. A whole pre season of training and matches and he'll be great with Kilman and whoever they are bringing in.
I'd add he has speed too, which is what is wanted in a high line defence.

Completely agree.
I watched one of his recovery runs yesterday which culminated in a superbly timed slide tackle. I hope he has a bright future with Wolves first team and not farmed out on loan.

 

[WolfLing]

I like him. He's played well, looked powerful and competes very well.

The one thing I'm concerned about is his distribution. The amount of times he chipped it straight to Jordan Henderson yesterday was getting annoying.

At the moment, he probably has more chance of being a cult-hero style, 100% committed, but limited defender in the mould of Ryan Bennett and George Elokobi than he does a Premier League first choice regular.

Definitely have him in the squad next season though and see if he can kick on.

 

[Deleted member drgr12429]

The lad is quality.

Completely agree.
I watched one of his recovery runs yesterday which culminated in a superbly timed slide tackle. I hope he has a bright future with Wolves first team and not farmed out on loan.

Absolutely we need to keep him here for next season.

 

[steve vena]

When boly is just asked to defend he is fine.....when he is asked to get the ball off the keeper and take on the whole team like against man city then he is gonna look woeful....

I thought Norwich summed it up...all over the place first half but , second half when he was just asked to do the simple defending, block, tackle , head it and mark pukki he hardly put a foot wrong....

We ask him to do too much as the ball carrying centre half I think.

He used to be excellent bringing the ball out, not these days though.

 

[92WWFC]

I like him a lot. The thing that works against him is probably being another left footer when we have Max. I know we do inverted CBs at times but can imagine we'll try to buy a right footed CB.

 

[WolfInStaffs]

Strong in duels, good ball-carrier, decent pace.

What I would say is that he does that thing that a lot of defenders do where he wins, not pointless, but ‘easy’ tackles that look good (eg attacker on the sideline with nowhere to go and just wants to be tackled to win the throw, defender then slides in) that make him seem great. He’s a bit loose on the ball for this level too.

At 23, I don’t really expect him to be anything more than a squad player at a PL club. Regardless, huge success for whoever was behind it at the club at less than a million quid and credit to him for making the tough transition relatively well in such a short amount of time.

 

[AndyY]

When boly is just asked to defend he is fine.....when he is asked to get the ball off the keeper and take on the whole team like against man city then he is gonna look woeful....

I thought Norwich summed it up...all over the place first half but , second half when he was just asked to do the simple defending, block, tackle , head it and mark pukki he hardly put a foot wrong....

We ask him to do too much as the ball carrying centre half I think.

In previous seasons, Boly has carried the ball out of defence competently several times, as has Kilman this season.
I think it is something we should encourage, to mix things up and not just rely on long passes from Coady or Neves; thst has become too predictable and countered.
This season Boly has not played much and has been ill; i think yesterday may actually have been one of the few games when he has been fully fit.

 

[Huyton W88lvo]

Boly is better on the left side of the 3 . With Kilman right side if we stay with 5 at the back . Toti in reserve for me atm

 

[lets all have a disco]

In previous seasons, Boly has carried the ball out of defence competently several times, as has Kilman this season.
I think it is something we should encourage, to mix things up and not just rely on long passes from Coady or Neves; thst has become too predictable and countered.
This season Boly has not played much and has been ill; i think yesterday may actually have been one of the few games when he has been fully fit.

Yes I'd don't disagree in general but it can be over done and expose us as it was against man city ...and it becomes a bit harder when you get a bit older and lose a yard....

 

[TheConcourse]

He’ll be useful in a back 5, and wouldn’t be adverse to keeping him in the squad, but if we do (ever) have aspirations of a 4 then I’d be worried.

Back four:

Semedo Kilman CB RAN

Back five:

Semedo Kilman CB Toti RAN

Plenty of pace and strength where needed in either of those systems IMO.

 

[AndyY]

Boly is better on the left side of the 3 . With Kilman right side if we stay with 5 at the back . Toti in reserve for me atm

I think we would be better off loaning out people like Toti and Hoever (and Silva) to get regular game time as with MGW. We then need to have experienced back up to come and do a job as Marcal did. Keep Saiss and Boly for that role but bring in better first choice CB alongside Kilman in a 4 or Coady and Kilman in a 5.

 

[Minimalist]

IF we do move to a back 4 i think Toti could quite comfortably play as a left back. Would add some height to the team which Lage seems to be keen on.

 

[Eastern Wolf]

Think Toti is ready. Full stop. Loses nothing to anyone in terms of physicallity in PL. Just needs the game time to sharpen up.

 

[Wolf in Kenilworth]

With the Ignacio talk that’s:

Ignacio
Kilman
Boly
Toti

All left footers…

Wonder if Boly is off…

 

[Minimalist]

With the Ignacio talk that’s:

Ignacio
Kilman
Boly
Toti

All left footers…

Wonder if Boly is off…

Boly is right footed.
But does seem more comfortable on the left side.

 

[Wolf in Kenilworth]

Boly is right footed.
But does seem more comfortable on the left side.

You know what I didn’t know that. Where’s the hell have I been!