Silva loan

[Fifty Niner]

It's a completely different dynamic playing for Anderlecht than for us. They are the big club, playing on the front foot against inferior opponents in nearly all matches. He's going to get chances offered to him, where for us, you have to make them out of next to nothing. As well as having little support , because we have to be wary of breaks and so on. Here, they often have 4 or 5 in the box in open play. It's like playing for current Leicester , but put in the Championship.

Will be interesting to see how he does against the 1 or 2 other decent sides in this league - Club Brugge and ... er.. is there another?

Sums it up nicely. Silva was shackled by the way we played, which is why none of our forward players have been anywhere near prolific over the last couple of seasons in particular.

 

[lobodelsur]

Yes- just noticed Royale Union SG are the team who beat Rangers 2-0. Second leg later today. Hadn't heard of them till then, though.

Not surprised you hadn't heard of them. From the mid-60s to the mid 2010's they were knocking around in the lower reaches of Belgian football.

 

[wwbug]

Sums it up nicely. Silva was shackled by the way we played, which is why none of our forward players have been anywhere near prolific over the last couple of seasons in particular.

But these players have not been prolific anywhere. Except Hwang in the Austrian league

 

[Sussex Wolf]

If he stays fit, his confidence after this loan will be sky high.

 

[Fifty Niner]

But these players have not been prolific anywhere. Except Hwang in the Austrian league

Good point.

 

[Pengwern]

We now have 3 better players to combine with and supply him - Neto MGW and GG

 

[we love jez moxey]

Loaning Fabio was a long overdue excellent decision.

Not bringing in a striker is a long overdue poor decision.

The two shouldn't be conflated

I think it's far from excellent to be honest.
The one game where we played with this system, (Sheffield United in the cup) Silva thrived from it and played his best game for us.
Switching permanently, then loaning him out really does baffle me.

 

[Contrarian]

Sums it up nicely. Silva was shackled by the way we played, which is why none of our forward players have been anywhere near prolific over the last couple of seasons in particular.

I'm still not 100% convinced on exactly how much our forwards are "shackled" and how much is that other than Raul, none of them have ever been goal scorers. Hwang scored none in the Bundesliga. Podence scoring 6 a season in the Greek league was his best. Traore can't be shackled, yet still hardly scores.

Either they are shackled everywhere...or it's that our forwards are not direct enough. They can do the tricks, but are largely ineffective. To much icing, no cake. Too inconsistent too. When we play the same formation and team, week after week, and one week Podence is brilliant and the next, invisible, it's got to be him, not "the way we play". And we have a whole forward line who go from brilliant to invisible. Too similar, in their own ways, all inconsistent enigmas! Then we have Dendonker, top of our XG league already. Arrives in great positions, yet finishing so bad, he should be getting 5 goals more a season.

 

[Fifty Niner]

I'm still not 100% convinced on exactly how much our forwards are "shackled" and how much is that other than Raul, none of them have ever been goal scorers. Hwang scored none in the Bundesliga. Podence scoring 6 a season in the Greek league was his best. Traore can't be shackled, yet still hardly scores.

Either they are shackled everywhere...or it's that our forwards are not direct enough. They can do the tricks, but are largely ineffective. To much icing, no cake. Too inconsistent too. When we play the same formation and team, week after week, and one week Podence is brilliant and the next, invisible, it's got to be him, not "the way we play". And we have a whole forward line who go from brilliant to invisible. Too similar, in their own ways, all inconsistent enigmas! Then we have Dendonker, top of our XG league already. Arrives in great positions, yet finishing so bad, he should be getting 5 goals more a season.

Our system mostly relied on near 100% execution because we rarely had more than two players for the first ball in the opposition penalty box from open play. Winning second balls in this area was mostly luck. There always seemed to be a gulf between midfield an attack. So no matter who would had up front opportunities were limited.

Having said that, Bruno acknowledged there weren’t many goal scorers in our team. Leeds proved that point yet again.

 

[Supadavewolf]

Loaning Fabio was a long overdue excellent decision.

Not bringing in a striker is a long overdue poor decision.

The two shouldn't be conflated

Excellent post, Hogan.

No, not the point about our strikers, but the use of the word 'conflated'. Surely a first for MolMix!

I have milk with my conflates.



Arrrgh, the heat.....

 

[Ian C]

Scores another. We’re a ****ing joke, loan out our best player.

 

[Loojay]

Scores another. We’re a ****ing joke, loan out our best player.

He's our best player now lol amazing

 

[sc91]

Anderlecht 0-0

Fabio comes on 58th minute, scores 3 minutes later, assists 10 minutes after and then helps work a 3rd.

Anderlecht 3-0

He should have been loaned out last season, he is needed here now.

 

[Ian C]

He's our best player now lol amazing

LOL we ain’t got a striker and Silva smashing it.

LOL LOL LOL you.

 

[Bob Wolf]

Seems odd that a player who has scored 4 in 5 is still starting on the bench.

 

[Ian C]

Anderlecht 0-0

Fabio comes on 58th minute, scores 3 minutes later, assists 10 minutes after and then helps work a 3rd.

Anderlecht 3-0

He should have been loaned out last season, he is needed here now.

Ain’t that the truth.

 

[Ian C]

Seems odd that a player who has scored 4 in 5 is still starting on the bench.

He did today, but has started previously.

Maybe their manager knows how to use substitutes, wouldn’t that be a thing….?

 

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

He would've been rested today. They're playing an Estonian side and two up, so this just proves he's forced himself into the best XI.

 

[Muscat]

Seems odd that a player who has scored 4 in 5 is still starting on the bench.

He started the previous game against these, having been on the bench in the league. Now he is being rested in the Cup so he can start in the league. That, itself, is a reflection of the start he's made.

 

[Jawwfc]

Hes needed this for a while, get his confidence up we will reap the rewards next year.

 

[sc91]

Appears to have really endeared himself to the Anderlecht fans as well.

 

[Wolves Heathen]

The club cant do right for doing wrong according to some of you guys, If we had kept him here and he had struggled you would have said should have loaned him out, because he HAS been loaned out and is doing well we should not have loaned our best ? striker out. Two things we can agree on is that Fabio needs game time and the second is that the club should have brought someone in to replace Fabio... The main thing for now is Fabio is getting better game by game and scoring goals but at times we can see he is still not the finished product, but boy he knows where the net is and is good if not yet lethal in and around the penalty area, may I say the best is still to come, carry on Fabio my baby..

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

Works his **** off, he's likable kid. Just needs some goals

 

[Ian C]

Hes needed this for a while, get his confidence up we will reap the rewards next year.

After struggling all year to score goals likely. The kid has the talent clearly, our pathetic attempts at football last season just did him no service.

I’m sure Bruno just punted out on loan to see how others would be best to play him.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

Yes Fabio!

Happy for him

 

[Flaneur]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1557820420560396289

 

[Ned]

Appears to have really endeared himself to the Anderlecht fans as well.

Too right, he’s always come across like he has a great attitude and works his **** off on the pitch - fans love that sort of thing, especially when he’s scoring goals.

 

[Contrarian]

Context, though, isn't it? What level are the opponents? Semi-Pro? Conference North?

More important he does well in the Belgian League, and the matches against the 3 or 4 other top clubs will tell us most about how he's progressing.

 

[WolvesAreBoringOnCeefax]

Disappointing to see him doing well when you fear we’ll be short of clinical finishers this year, but obviously hopefully bodes well for the future here. I’m wary of the MGW effect, seeming to feel unwanted after a loan, but hopefully he’s happy to come back to the Prem next year and with Raul another year older likely be in strong contention of getting plenty of game time

 

[woop woop barmy army]

I reckon it will take until Xmas for our first player to hit 4 goals.

 

[Contrarian]

Disappointing to see him doing well when you fear we’ll be short of clinical finishers this year, but obviously hopefully bodes well for the future here. I’m wary of the MGW effect, seeming to feel unwanted after a loan, but hopefully he’s happy to come back to the Prem next year and with Raul another year older likely be in strong contention of getting plenty of game time

Surely, if anything the MGW effect tells us that success at a lower level does not directly translate into the same in the Premier League? And the Championship is a tougher league than the Belgian League - and both of them light years ahead of the team who finished 4th in Estonia.

 

[Ian C]

Decent manager playing the right kind of football knows how to play him. Bruno however just scratches his chin and punts him out on loan. Therein lies the difference, I hope I’m proved wrong.

 

[giantwolf]

Seems odd that a player who has scored 4 in 5 is still starting on the bench.

They were 2-0 up on aggregate with the home game tonight. He was rested

 

[Flaneur]

Context, though, isn't it? What level are the opponents? Semi-Pro? Conference North?

More important he does well in the Belgian League, and the matches against the 3 or 4 other top clubs will tell us most about how he's progressing.

Context, he’s still only just turned 20. Most strikers that are considered some of Europe’s best right now were playing at an even lower level, and not even scoring, when they were his age.

 

[Ian C]

Disappointing to see him doing well when you fear we’ll be short of clinical finishers this year, but obviously hopefully bodes well for the future here. I’m wary of the MGW effect, seeming to feel unwanted after a loan, but hopefully he’s happy to come back to the Prem next year and with Raul another year older likely be in strong contention of getting plenty of game time

Disappointing to see him doing well?

 

[wolvesaywe]

If you've got chips somebody on here is always ready with their pecker to **** all over them

 

[Deleted member 8455jwf]

Surely, if anything the MGW effect tells us that success at a lower level does not directly translate into the same in the Premier League? And the Championship is a tougher league than the Belgian League - and both of them light years ahead of the team who finished 4th in Estonia.

How does MGW tell us that? We don't know whether its worked or not

 

[DDPPwolf313]

Wolves Fancast on Instagram: "4 goals in 5 appearances for the boywonder @fabio.silva We can't wait to see how he develops then returns! "

Well done Fabio

 

[Contrarian]

How does MGW tell us that? We don't know whether its worked or not

Well, yes. Though if he gets half the goals he got in the Championship, it will be a good season for him. And there's many who don't want MGW back, because of the gap between the leagues. Yet the gap between the Belgian League is far bigger. If anybody rejects MGW "because he can do it in the Champs but not the PL while clamouring for Fabio to come back , then they have had a fundamental logic bypass.

 

[Contrarian]

Context, he’s still only just turned 20. Most strikers that are considered some of Europe’s best right now were playing at an even lower level, and not even scoring, when they were his age.

I'm pleased for him. Just pointing out that he isn't the answer to our scoring problems right now. Though if he carries on at this rate, maybe could be ready next season? Though as you say, he's only just 20, why hurry him back? That's what development is all about. Going up through the leagues, not being dumped in the deep end.