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If he was to start against Fulham, where would you play him and who would he replace?
 

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If he was to start against Fulham, where would you play him and who would he replace?
Start instead of who though?

Gomes and lemina were both just fantastic
JWB fought hard and was also very good showing us what a fraud Nunes is playing at the prem level.

Cunha and Hwang, while in and out. Both had moments but they were there as the “striker” forwards and he won’t replace them.

I just don’t see who he comes in for?

I am glad he showed the quality he had, said on here that the set up hasn’t suited him and that is a big part of why he hasn’t shown his quality sooner.

I think GON and how he likes to play might allow him more chances to show this. But it is too soon to start him.

He would 100% deserve a start if he has a few more cameos like yesterday as that was just stellar. But we have had to wait a long time for him to impact a prem game like that since he signed.

I think against fulham, his impact off the bench might be better as they will struggle without Paulinha
 

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Start instead of who though?

Gomes and lemina were both just fantastic
JWB fought hard and was also very good showing us what a fraud Nunes is playing at the prem level.

Cunha and Hwang, while in and out. Both had moments but they were there as the “striker” forwards and he won’t replace them.

I just don’t see who he comes in for?

I am glad he showed the quality he had, said on here that the set up hasn’t suited him and that is a big part of why he hasn’t shown his quality sooner.

I think GON and how he likes to play might allow him more chances to show this. But it is too soon to start him.

He would 100% deserve a start if he has a few more cameos like yesterday as that was just stellar. But we have had to wait a long time for him to impact a prem game like that since he signed.

I think against fulham, his impact off the bench might be better as they will struggle without Paulinha

I don’t either, which is why I asked the question as some posters would like to see him play next game
 

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Not quite as good, but let's not forget the skill involved for Hwang's goal v Newcastle so soon.
Hwangs goal was nice, but hardly compares to Sarabias! At the end of the season only 1 is likely to be remembered.
 

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I don't see why Sarabia can't compete with Hwang for that spot. If he can actually get on the ball in those dangerous situations and not drift through the game, he can be good!

I'm still starting Hwang for sure, but look at the fixture congestion coming up....Pablo settling into some kind of form would be very welcome.
 

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It should be, but not outside Wolverhampton it won't be. Now if one of the media darlings had scored it.....


A mate of mine who is not a Wolves fan said sent me a text saying if Rashford, Saka or Son scored that magnificent goal it would be on a loop on Sky Sports News with them in full hype giving it " Was this the greatest goal ever scored ! "
 

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His stats for Sevilla, PSG, Sporting and Spain speak for themselves. He's a classy player who by his own admission has struggled to adapt to the pace and physicality of the league, so hopefully Saturdays cameo is the boost to give him the confidence to kick on with us now.
I could watch that first touch on repeat all day, more of the same please Pablo
 

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His stats for Sevilla, PSG, Sporting and Spain speak for themselves. He's a classy player who by his own admission has struggled to adapt to the pace and physicality of the league, so hopefully Saturdays cameo is the boost to give him the confidence to kick on with us now.
I could watch that first touch on repeat all day, more of the same please Pablo
Totally agree with this. Technically he’s probably the best player at the club but the pace and physicality of the league have been too much for him. Personally think If he starts it needs to be a little more central with “legs” around him or as with Saturday an impact sub where the opposition are a bit more tired so he can exploit them.
 

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Tricky one with Pablo. Clearly technically very good, and would probs flourish most in a 4-2-3-1 type formation where he can drift around and get on the ball with runners all around him. But in a 5-2-3 that we currently play, that '3' needs to be fast and powerful for breaks, which he isn't.

Definitely deserves more of a chance after the weekend though, whether it's from the start or if he's made himself first sub rather than last.
 

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The problem with the guy is I dont see where he suits the system. I would say he is essentially what Cunha is a wandering forward only Sarabia can not under any circumstances be expected to pick the ball up from the half way line and dribble like Neto or Hwang
Behind a main striker given roam to move is fine but as Cunha does that and with more energy I wouldnt have him as a starter
 

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Sarabia won the game for us, having come on at 87 mins!!!!!
Unbelievable impact.

Generally we have done well since he arrived and plays, a record
which is under-recognised.

Both him and Doyle bring qualities to the team, which none of the other
players are able to. The level of passing, control, vision and setpiece
delivery probably need to be used more.
 

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If he was to start against Fulham, where would you play him and who would he replace?
Right of a front 3, allowing Hwang to play on the left.
433 and he replaces Dawson.
343 and he replaces Bellegarde (who would come on at some point).
 

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His stats for Sevilla, PSG, Sporting and Spain speak for themselves. He's a classy player who by his own admission has struggled to adapt to the pace and physicality of the league, so hopefully Saturdays cameo is the boost to give him the confidence to kick on with us now.
I could watch that first touch on repeat all day, more of the same please Pablo
If he can use his amazing cameo vs Spurs as a platform & continue to get up to speed he'd be a real asset as he definitely knows where the net is!

As you say, the stats before he joined us speak for themselves, & while 18/19 was a while ago, the numbers he put up that year for Sevilla are outrageous

Season
Apps (Starts)
Mins
Goals
Assists
18/19 - Sevilla​
52 (42)​
3,728​
23
17
19/20 - PSG​
40 (26)​
2,409​
14
8
20/21 - PSG​
37 (17)​
1,700​
7
4
21/22 - PSG + Sporting (Loan)​
47 (39)​
3,175​
22
10
22/23 - PSG + Wolves​
32 (14)​
1,393​
1
0
23/24 - Wolves​
8 (4)​
343​
1
5

NT record:

Apps (Starts)
Mins
Goals
Assists
Spain
26 (14)​
1324​
9
3
 
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I've been one of his biggest critics, and I don't think he should start moving forward.

But that goal was insane. Also testament to his character. Got a good CV but he's clearly still training well, still part of the group and has come on when we needed him to make a massive contribution. No billy big time attitude.
 

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It is also worth nothing that the pressing-machines Sarabia and Doyle had a huge impact on our turnaround in those final minutes. Especially the winner came from Doyles relentless attack on one of the Spurs players, who was forced into an error. Then Doyle immediately made a crossfield pass from that freekick to Sarabia, and "history was made" :)
 

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It is also worth nothing that the pressing-machines Sarabia and Doyle had a huge impact on our turnaround in those final minutes. Especially the winner came from Doyles relentless attack on one of the Spurs players, who was forced into an error. Then Doyle immediately made a crossfield pass from that freekick to Sarabia, and "history was made" :)
It's almost like the manager knows what he is doing ;)
 

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For a few seasons one reason we’ve not scored many is we haven’t had players who create chances, Neto, Hwang and sarabia are doing just that. Seems pablo is working hard and loves the spirit in the camp, the more up to speed he gets the better it is for us.
 

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I would really love this guy to stay a good while at Wolves.
Its just great to see any genuine quality in a gold shirt , someone you know he could change things quickly with a flash of skill.
It means there is always some hope of a game changing moment.
 
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I've been one of his biggest critics, and I don't think he should start moving forward.

But that goal was insane. Also testament to his character. Got a good CV but he's clearly still training well, still part of the group and has come on when we needed him to make a massive contribution. No billy big time attitude.
I don’t think his attitude has ever been a question. He just doesn’t have the physicality for the prem so needs a “fluid” role in the team and we can’t give him that because by the nature of what we are right now we need a rigid stability that starts with a rigid formation. If I had to squeeze him in I’d try some so of 3421 formation with Sasa as the “1” with two floating players behind in Sarabia and Cunha as both would benefit from a more free role. Obviously only while Neto is injured (and it would be incredibly harsh to drop Hwang currently)
 

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I don’t think his attitude has ever been a question. He just doesn’t have the physicality for the prem so needs a “fluid” role in the team and we can’t give him that because by the nature of what we are right now we need a rigid stability that starts with a rigid formation. If I had to squeeze him in I’d try some so of 3421 formation with Sasa as the “1” with two floating players behind in Sarabia and Cunha as both would benefit from a more free role. Obviously only while Neto is injured (and it would be incredibly harsh to drop Hwang currently)

I think it can be more about the type of football teams play and the makeup of the team, than a player's individual physicality.

Sarabia is technically superb, as his goal at the weekend proved. He could probably slot in seamlessly to Man City's side, playing anywhere across their midfield, and he probably wouldn't look at all out of place. In the same way a smaller technically excellent player like Bernardo Silva does, or players like David Silva before him.

Take Bernardo Silva out of City's team and put him in our side, he would probably come up against the same issues Sarabia faces.

We have a lot less of the ball than a side like City, so there is more work to do off the ball. We rely more on one on one duels when attacking than a team like City, but with fewer numbers forward, so teams could easily double up on players without the explosiveness to pass players like Neto or Cunha. We are also far more structured, with less fluidity, making it difficult for roaming type players.

He's not a wide player for the Premier League in my opinion. Sarabia's best role for a team like us is a roaming number 10. Playing in the hole in and around one or more other forward players. I'd quite like to see him as a 10 in a 3412, behind a front 2 of Cunha and Hwang.
 

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I don’t think his attitude has ever been a question. He just doesn’t have the physicality for the prem so needs a “fluid” role in the team and we can’t give him that because by the nature of what we are right now we need a rigid stability that starts with a rigid formation. If I had to squeeze him in I’d try some so of 3421 formation with Sasa as the “1” with two floating players behind in Sarabia and Cunha as both would benefit from a more free role. Obviously only while Neto is injured (and it would be incredibly harsh to drop Hwang currently)
You aren't saying a man of this quality that just stood head and shoulders above the rest and won three points in ten minutes has little place at Molineux ?
I personally dont see him as a luxury player , he is important. To be used with intelligent management.
 

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You aren't saying a man of this quality that just stood head and shoulders above the rest and won three points in ten minutes has little place at Molineux ?
I personally dont see him as a luxury player , he is important.
It’s not for me to decide if he’s a luxury player or isn’t important. I’d point at his minutes played this season as a barometer of what GON thinks of him.

He’s a fine player, but let’s be real he’s never shown that level consistently at wolves. I’m not using Saturday as a measure as one stellar cameo doesn’t make or break him here, as I once saw Steve Corica do the same in a game and he was less than useless.
 

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It’s not for me to decide if he’s a luxury player or isn’t important. I’d point at his minutes played this season as a barometer of what GON thinks of him.

He’s a fine player, but let’s be real he’s never shown that level consistently at wolves. I’m not using Saturday as a measure as one stellar cameo doesn’t make or break him here, as I once saw Steve Corica do the same in a game and he was less than useless.
Agree on Corica.
Sarabia with 26 Spanish caps ( and 9 full international goals) is speciual IMO
For me Sarbia is an intelligent player, and his lack of consistency is only down to getting up to scratch with the Premier League .
He is a weapon to use at the right time against the right team.
This has been my long term view since the day he arrived , Saturday just proved to me he is moving to where I hoped he would get.
 
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I think it can be more about the type of football teams play and the makeup of the team, than a player's individual physicality.

Sarabia is technically superb, as his goal at the weekend proved. He could probably slot in seamlessly to Man City's side, playing anywhere across their midfield, and he probably wouldn't look at all out of place. In the same way a smaller technically excellent player like Bernardo Silva does, or players like David Silva before him.

Take Bernardo Silva out of City's team and put him in our side, he would probably come up against the same issues Sarabia faces.

We have a lot less of the ball than a side like City, so there is more work to do off the ball. We rely more on one on one duels when attacking than a team like City, but with fewer numbers forward, so teams could easily double up on players without the explosiveness to pass players like Neto or Cunha. We are also far more structured, with less fluidity, making it difficult for roaming type players.

He's not a wide player for the Premier League in my opinion. Sarabia's best role for a team like us is a roaming number 10. Playing in the hole in and around one or more other forward players. I'd quite like to see him as a 10 in a 3412, behind a front 2 of Cunha and Hwang.

That forward line would be too narrow. Sarabia, Cunha and Hwang all like to come through the middle and aren’t known for their crosses into the box. That means Semedo and RAN would need to stay wide to stretch the back line, but neither Semedo or RAN are offensive threats.

Sarabia has shown that he has quality and adds something different to the team, but I don’t see how he fits into a starting 11 with the undroppable Cunha and Hwang.
 

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Sarabia with 26 Spanish caps ( and 9 full international goals) is no Corica .

At first glance, it does seem a crazy comparison. But then, Steve Corica had 32 international caps. Scored 5 goals for Australia. They do say that it is more difficult to score goals in an inferior team. He struggled in our league and never really came to terms with it. Would probably have done way better for a second level team in Spain!

For me Sarbia is an intelligent player, and his lack of consistency is only down to getting up to scratch with the Premier League .
Let's hope so, we could certainly do with some more of what we saw recently. Time will tell and presumably he will get more chances. That might be where the Corica comparison isn't all that ridiculous. He too had the occasional moments when it looked like he'd finally arrived, but never built on it and would then go off on another 10 match run of doing nothing.

He is a weapon to use at the right time against the right team.
This has been my long term view since the day he arrived , Saturday just proved to me he is moving to where I hoped he would get.
That certainly was the right time. Against a tiring team, leaving gaps. It won't be every match, but will happen again. He gave us that composure with the final ball that had been sorely lacking throughout.
 
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