Rob Edwards - Wolves manager

DanishWolf said:
Don't know if he'll be a succes but love to see how genuinely happy he's to be back. Also, he seems absolutely brillant with people.

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He looks so happy to be here, and a very personable guy, I wish him every success, he's gonna need a miracle, oh and can I say that he's very easy on the eye too ;)
 
DanishWolf said:
Don't know if he'll be a succes but love to see how genuinely happy he's to be back. Also, he seems absolutely brillant with people.

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Cheers mate - enjoyed watching that.

Hopefully some renewed optimism about the place.

Fer Lopez doing what looked like a bit of weight training in the gym.

Come on Rob, give that boy some minutes.
 
I can’t for the life of me understand why VP persisted with Hwang in a role he wasn’t suited too, when he’s far better in a central role. Always felt he was good at finding space in the box and finishing from close range. On the basis we have two big target man forwards, I think Hwang is a good option to play off one of them.
 
If you look at several of our wins from last season, during games where Cunha was suspended, our lineup then is almost the same as it is now, minus semedo and Ait nouri. We were playing bellegarde and munetsi as cams in some of them like the 2-1 win against ipswich, for example. Now of course the difference in wingbacks is big, but I refuse to believe that this squad isn't capable of much more, considering how we performed last season at times with largely the same starting 11.
 
Andywolf74 said:
I can’t for the life of me understand why VP persisted with Hwang in a role he wasn’t suited too, when he’s far better in a central role. Always felt he was good at finding space in the box and finishing from close range. On the basis we have two big target man forwards, I think Hwang is a good option to play off one of them.
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He really isn’t it’s just a myth. The guy has had two purple patches in all the time he’s been here and he’s been utter gash for two years. He played central in the West Ham cup game and was utter ****e.
 
Andywolf74 said:
I can’t for the life of me understand why VP persisted with Hwang in a role he wasn’t suited too, when he’s far better in a central role. Always felt he was good at finding space in the box and finishing from close range. On the basis we have two big target man forwards, I think Hwang is a good option to play off one of them.
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The fact that he's been with us so long is a prime example of why we are where we are. What other Premier League side would he get into?

He's a Championship striker at best - and should have been sold ages ago.

It's shambolic that a Premier League team is fielding players such as Hwang, Munetsi and Hoever in a starting eleven. Players of that calibre should barely be even making the bench.
 
Wolf316 said:
Rob is our manager and he’ll get my full support. But if he starts Hwang and Munetsi together it’s Boooooooooo Edwards out.
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Yep. I will give him the first couple of games for free just in case he hasn't figured it out but yeah, if we are seeing Munetsi in any kind of advanced position a few games in then Edwards can just **** off already.

Thankfully Afcon will help
 
Edwards is now our coach.

For better or worse we’ll soon see what he can do and how good he actually is.

Doesn’t matter if he’s one of our own, or if he’s nice, has a great smile, drinks beer….none of that matters.
Fans were all aglow that Vitor drank beer and had good pre talk etc.

All that counts is what happens on the pitch…..rest is just fog.
 
Arc said:
If you look at several of our wins from last season, during games where Cunha was suspended, our lineup then is almost the same as it is now, minus semedo and Ait nouri. We were playing bellegarde and munetsi as cams in some of them like the 2-1 win against ipswich, for example. Now of course the difference in wingbacks is big, but I refuse to believe that this squad isn't capable of much more, considering how we performed last season at times with largely the same starting 11.
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The difference may be more down to quality of opposition. Even Burnley, the worst promoted team so far, are better than the best promoted team in the past 2 seasons. Under VP, a lot of our points came against the lowest 5 teams. Spurs and Man Utd are much better this season, too. I make it 8 of our 12 wins were against the bottom 5.

We needed a better quality squad to equal last season, but we have a worse squad now. Basically, we've gone backwards, while the lowest 5 teams have all overtaken us.
 
Arc said:
If you look at several of our wins from last season, during games where Cunha was suspended, our lineup then is almost the same as it is now, minus semedo and Ait nouri. We were playing bellegarde and munetsi as cams in some of them like the 2-1 win against ipswich, for example. Now of course the difference in wingbacks is big, but I refuse to believe that this squad isn't capable of much more, considering how we performed last season at times with largely the same starting 11.
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The problem is, the quality of the wing backs has dropped substantially since then - not only in terms of quality, but also in terms of balance.

Both of those you've mentioned could defend and get forward - RAN in particular could link up with the attack, which helped when Cunha wasn't playing.

RAN has gone to one of the best teams in England. We've recently been playing Hoever - who would struggle to get into a Championship side. His defending is woeful. He offers nothing going forward either.

The other wing back options are all severely limited too. They're either poor defensively but better going forward - or vice versa. We don't have any that are even occasionally consistent at both.

The drop off in quality and balance on team shape is huge compared to last season.

Agba also came in and made a huge difference. This season, he appears to have been swapped for his inferior twin brother.
 
Andywolf74 said:
I can’t for the life of me understand why VP persisted with Hwang in a role he wasn’t suited too, when he’s far better in a central role. Always felt he was good at finding space in the box and finishing from close range. On the basis we have two big target man forwards, I think Hwang is a good option to play off one of them.
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I tend to agree although I also get the impression that Hwang (like a few others) probably couldn't care less. I tend to think that we need a complete clear-out and I don't see Rob turning that lot into a fluid attacking unit let alone doing much more than running around into the predictable dead ends.
 
Papper said:
I tend to agree although I also get the impression that Hwang (like a few others) probably couldn't care less. I tend to think that we need a complete clear-out and I don't see Rob turning that lot into a fluid attacking unit let alone doing much more than running around into the predictable dead ends.
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I think Rob Edwards might have actually underestimated the job he's taken on. In my opinion, it's going to take the January window plus next Summer's window to have a clear-out and bring in new players (hopefully better than the summer window) - and only then will we get a real idea of what RE is looking for and the type of team he's looking to build.

If this summers window was a 9/10 window, then Rob Edwards is going to need a 17/10 window next summer to turn this shower of **** into something half decent.
 
Jose Sa's Beard said:
I think Rob Edwards might have actually underestimated the job he's taken on. In my opinion, it's going to take the January window plus next Summer's window to have a clear-out and bring in new players (hopefully better than the summer window) - and only then will we get a real idea of what RE is looking for and the type of team he's looking to build.

If this summers window was a 9/10 window, then Rob Edwards is going to need a 17/10 window next summer to turn this shower of **** into something half decent.
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It's likely Wolves will not be signing players of as high a caliber as this past window for quite a while.

Hopefully they're at least in the right positions going forward.
 
Monketron said:
Edwards won't really have many options in the forward positions until January. Lets not lose our **** when he's forced to play the only players we have.
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This is crucial... new eyes, yes. But they're the same dross for the most part.

It's going to take time and whether he's the right man for it.... we'll see!
 
VancouverWolf said:
Edwards is now our coach.

For better or worse we’ll soon see what he can do and how good he actually is.

Doesn’t matter if he’s one of our own, or if he’s nice, has a great smile, drinks beer….none of that matters.
Fans were all aglow that Vitor drank beer and had good pre talk etc.

All that counts is what happens on the pitch…..rest is just fog.
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Interesting that you write this as the Club seems to be putting all its faith in RE based on his links to Wolves, as this is going to make any difference. If links to the Club were the big thing then a Steve Bull, Dave Edwards, Tommo partnership would have guaranteed us survival?!
 
lobodelsur said:
I disagree. Mosquera, Agbadou, Toti, Tchatchoua are all quite rapid.
The problem is then whether they have the composure to deal with the threat, time their tackles etc
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They all might be fast but they have problems passing to another player in old gold! Where we want the pace is further up the pitch and out wide, as in Jota or Neto or Sako. For some reason Shi decided we did not need this type of player in the squad?
 
northnorfolkwolf said:
Interesting that you write this as the Club seems to be putting all its faith in RE based on his links to Wolves, as this is going to make any difference. If links to the Club were the big thing then a Steve Bull, Dave Edwards, Tommo partnership would have guaranteed us survival?!
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Not sure you got the gist of what I was getting at. I wrote that because some posters were saying “he’s one of our own” or he’s a nice guy etc.

None of that matters to me..Only what happens on the pitch. That’s the only yardstick, imo.
 
Don Gloomshroud said:
I’m sorry, but that’s absolute rubbish. JL was the last actual manager we had. If he had been backed we would have reached Europe again and all the money spent to back him would have been regained in increased prize and tv money. the value of our players would have sky-rocketed.
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That’s a very rosy and optimistic scenario you have…..it might not have been as good as you think.
 
I’m hoping for an announcement re additions to RE’s coaching staff next week.

Paul Trollope mentioned, but a couple more needed imo. Really need some experience.

Any more rumours?
 
Don Gloomshroud said:
I’m sorry, but that’s absolute rubbish. JL was the last actual manager we had. If he had been backed we would have reached Europe again and all the money spent to back him would have been regained in increased prize and tv money. the value of our players would have sky-rocketed.
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Making Europe once doesn't actually get you that much more money at a club like Wolves. If you do really well in the competition it can be an extra 40m or so for that season. That's a 20% increase for that season, so it's far from nothing. But yeah, it's not like instant riches. Definitely not going to cover the kind of backing JL would have wanted.
 
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brianm said:
Making Europe once doesn't actually get you that much more money at a club like Wolves. If you do really well in the competition it can be an extra 40m or so for that season. That's a 20% increase for that season, so it's far from nothing. But yeah, it's not like instant riches. Definitely not going to cover the kind of backing JL would have wanted.
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£40m?
Did I miss something? I assume that we’re talking about the Europa, right? ( we wouldn’t have made the CL.).
Had we made it the semis with Lopetigui the reward was only about £4m..plus a little more for early rounds.
 
VancouverWolf said:
£40m?
Did I miss something? I assume that we’re talking about the Europa, right? ( we wouldn’t have made the CL.).
Had we made it the semis with Lopetigui the reward was only about £4m..plus a little more for early rounds.
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I believe that's before the TV money, which gets distributed according to some combination of league size and how far you go.
 
brianm said:
Genuinely think Fosun would tell you those 7th place finishes did more harm than good to their overall vision for the project. It was a sugar rush. An algae bloom. Think they really wanted a progression more like Brighton etc. it's obviously been downhill since.
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I think its obviously it wasn't part of the plan. "Luck" according to Shi, brilliance of manager and players according to normal people. Shi talking about it in that way kind of lets us know that it was always the plan to be just above circling the drain at best, and those two seasons raised fan expectation of what is actually possible.
 
VancouverWolf said:
£40m?
Did I miss something? I assume that we’re talking about the Europa, right? ( we wouldn’t have made the CL.).
Had we made it the semis with Lopetigui the reward was only about £4m..plus a little more for early rounds.
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More likely the Europa Conference than the Europa League l'd have thought. The thing West Ham won.
 
Munich_Wolf said:
I think its obviously it wasn't part of the plan. "Luck" according to Shi, brilliance of manager and players according to normal people. Shi talking about it in that way kind of lets us know that it was always the plan to be just above circling the drain at best, and those two seasons raised fan expectation of what is actually possible.
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In hindsight it certainly feels that way.
 
northnorfolkwolf said:
They all might be fast but they have problems passing to another player in old gold! Where we want the pace is further up the pitch and out wide, as in Jota or Neto or Sako. For some reason Shi decided we did not need this type of player in the squad?
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I agree we have no pace up front, (but I was replying to the suggestion we can't play a high line as the defence has no pace). And, yes, our passing can be atrocious...
 
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