Non Profit Community Football Club

[Bawtry Wolf]

Me and my family have spent thousands on Wolves.

Always been pretty decent value.

When something dies t smell right and they ask for more money then yes I will ask questions.

If your house wasn’t being maintained and the rent went up do you keep paying or ask questions?

The issue though is that buying a ticket to watch football is very different to renting a house. Just because you’ve bought a ticket doesn’t mean you’re guaranteed results or performances. Whereas renting a house means you are guaranteed/legally entitled to a house that is safe and maintained to a minimum legal standard.

Of course one thing where football and house rental have a similarity is that if you don’t like it you can move on.

 

[Contrarian]

Keep us where? Are you happy with PL top 10 and very little done for fans apart from rising ticket prices?

That's the interesting thing. Not that long ago, you could ask Wolves fans and find the majority would say all we wanted was a safe Premier League position. For 25+ years, we could only dream of that , because on the few occasions we got in, it was always just one long relegation scrap. And then back to the Championship for an eternity.

Now we have all that we wanted for years, it feels different? Not getting at anyone, just saying how viewpoints change. You get what you wish for and then want something else. Maybe thats the way it is, because other clubs have been in this position too.

With that in mind, I suppose I'd like to get back in Europe again, but if not, am reasonably happy with PL top 10 for the indefinite future.

 

[wolf1975]

You'd ask your landlord, not the whole street.

You can't ask the landlord in this case so just courting opinion.

 

[wolf1975]

The issue though is that buying a ticket to watch football is very different to renting a house. Just because you’ve bought a ticket doesn’t mean you’re guaranteed results or performances. Whereas renting a house means you are guaranteed/legally entitled to a house that is safe and maintained to a minimum legal standard.

Of course one thing where football and house rental have a similarity is that if you don’t like it you can move on.

I'm talking about level of investment from both - just an example.

If i or any supporter is spending money I want to know what the owner is doing.

Imagine living in a rundown house, they do the garden up and plant a few trees etc. It's like music and esports with a football club.

I want to see an investment in what I primarily pay for - the last few windows have shown that the house is getting worn down but the rent has gone up.

 

[wolf1975]

That's the interesting thing. Not that long ago, you could ask Wolves fans and find the majority would say all we wanted was a safe Premier League position. For 25+ years, we could only dream of that , because on the few occasions we got in, it was always just one long relegation scrap. And then back to the Championship for an eternity.

Now we have all that we wanted for years, it feels different? Not getting at anyone, just saying how viewpoints change. You get what you wish for and then want something else. Maybe thats the way it is, because other clubs have been in this position too.

With that in mind, I suppose I'd like to get back in Europe again, but if not, am reasonably happy with PL top 10 for the indefinite future.

I'd just like to see a full squad

 

[Sussex Wolf]

I'd just like to see a full squad

Keep us where? Are you happy with PL top 10 and very little done for fans apart from rising ticket prices?

Well the second quote is what you said back near the start of your thread. You’re not satisfied with “just” being a top 10 PL club.

Since then, you’ve listed a variety of other things that you’re unhappy about. Seems to me that this entire thread is for you to share your grievances about the club, and when people try to answer them, you list some more, and then some more. Unfortunately, while many of us have things were not happy about Wolves, and probably always have had something we’re not happy about, I suspect very few are unhappy about being a top 10 PL club, especially those of us who have spent most of our adult lives supporting a team struggling to get back into the top division.

 

[VancouverWolf]

I'm talking about level of investment from both - just an example.

If i or any supporter is spending money I want to know what the owner is doing.

Imagine living in a rundown house, they do the garden up and plant a few trees etc. It's like music and esports with a football club.

I want to see an investment in what I primarily pay for - the last few windows have shown that the house is getting worn down but the rent has gone up.

You don’t pay for the investment……you pay for admission and that’s all.

You pay admission go to a concert but have no say on the songs they play.

 

[Eastyorksyeltz]

You don’t pay for the investment……you pay for admission and that’s all.

You pay admission go to a concert but have no say on the songs they play.

Or what the band spend the profits on. Can you demand they plough it back into the sound system, as opposed to snorting it up their noses?

 

[Deleted member drgr12429]

You can't ask the landlord in this case so just courting opinion.

You asked the question, i gave you the answer.
Like most of the questions you've asked you just don't like the answers.
Most.Pointless.Thread.Ever.

 

[wolf1975]

Well the second quote is what you said back near the start of your thread. You’re not satisfied with “just” being a top 10 PL club.

Since then, you’ve listed a variety of other things that you’re unhappy about. Seems to me that this entire thread is for you to share your grievances about the club, and when people try to answer them, you list some more, and then some more. Unfortunately, while many of us have things were not happy about Wolves, and probably always have had something we’re not happy about, I suspect very few are unhappy about being a top 10 PL club, especially those of us who have spent most of our adult lives supporting a team struggling to get back into the top division.

Lets see how you feel if this squad is in a relegation battle.

Sometimes you don't wait for the issue - you see the issue coming.

I hope i'm wrong but really concerned about the level of investment in recent times.

Plus the connection has gone downhill since Dalrymple left.

Am i concerned? Yes.

 

[wolf1975]

You don’t pay for the investment……you pay for admission and that’s all.

You pay admission go to a concert but have no say on the songs they play.

If you went to a concert and there was poor sound system ( also at Wolves ), they couldn't sing then you wouldn't go again.

Wolves are asking as usual for an upfront investment in season tickets.

I'm just asking for people's opinion if they believe the investment merits the price rise and what we pay.

I don't want to be entertained like the new fan - or make money like Fosun want - I want a full squad who TRY to win every game and see where it takes us.

Lage has said the same.

As a local fan who has grown up watching Wolves i'm not used to winning.

But you try,

How would you rate Wolves transfer activity in the last 4 windows Vancouver?

 

[wolf1975]

You asked the question, i gave you the answer.
Like most of the questions you've asked you just don't like the answers.
Most.Pointless.Thread.Ever.

Point Of Thread:

I have been asked to pay £785 for a season ticket.

Do I hand money over blindly or ask fellow fans a few questions.

I like to ask questions.

Do you believe the transfer policy has warranted another increase after the last 4 transfer windows?

 

[Deleted member drgr12429]

I have been asked to pay £785 for a season ticket.

Do I hand money over blindly or ask fellow fans a few questions.

I like to ask questions.

Do you believe the transfer policy has warranted another increase after the last 4 transfer windows?

We figured that bit out.
As most people have said it's only your decision, whether anyone believes whatever about any of Wolves business. Not sure how you don't get this after 6 pages.

 

[Eastyorksyeltz]

You asked the question, i gave you the answer.
Like most of the questions you've asked you just don't like the answers.
Most.Pointless.Thread.Ever.

To be fair the thread has become a bit like sport, or entertainment, in itself.

 

[wolf1975]

We figured that bit out.
As most people have said it's only your decision, whether anyone believes whatever about any of Wolves business. Not sure how you don't get this after 6 pages.

Dragrace wolf:

What do you pay for your season ticket?

When would you question the cost?

Would you ever consider questioning Fosun plans or follow blindly?

 

[Eastyorksyeltz]

Dragrace wolf:

What do you pay for your season ticket?

When would you question the cost?

Would you ever consider questioning Fosun plans or follow blindly?

"Who would cross the bridge of death must answer me these questions three ere the other side he see!"

 

[Leominster_Wolf]

"Who would cross the bridge of death must answer me these questions three ere the other side he see!"

What is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow (European)?

 

[Bawtry Wolf]

I'm talking about level of investment from both - just an example.

If i or any supporter is spending money I want to know what the owner is doing.

Imagine living in a rundown house, they do the garden up and plant a few trees etc. It's like music and esports with a football club.

I want to see an investment in what I primarily pay for - the last few windows have shown that the house is getting worn down but the rent has gone up.

That’s a completely inane answer, do you think you are going to hold Fosun to ransom? Unless you spend £Xm I won’t give you my few £100s. Renting a house and buying a football ticket are completely different, 1 is a necessary spend 1 is a discretionary spend. You pay for a ticket to watch a game of football you don’t pay for guaranteed success or even to be entertained. If you don’t like what you see don’t buy a ticket.

Anyway you’ve got 2 days to go before renewal I very much doubt Fosun will guarantee the investment you are seeking.

 

[Deleted member drgr12429]

Dragrace wolf:

What do you pay for your season ticket?

When would you question the cost?

Would you ever consider questioning Fosun plans or follow blindly?

I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries...

 

[RMNottm]

Point Of Thread:

I have been asked to pay £785 for a season ticket.

Do I hand money over blindly or ask fellow fans a few questions.

I like to ask questions.

Do you believe the transfer policy has warranted another increase after the last 4 transfer windows?

It is up to you pay up or give it up.
Could transfers be better - Yes
Could match day experience be better - yes
Are Fosun going to cream off PROFIT - yes

Could it be worst - yes

Is a community non profit the answer almost certainly - NO

 

[wolf1975]

I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries...

A man who criticises but won’t answer a few simple wuestions

Let’s go with one question

- how much is your season ticket

 

[wolf1975]

It is up to you pay up or give it up.
Could transfers be better - Yes
Could match day experience be better - yes
Are Fosun going to cream off PROFIT - yes

Could it be worst - yes

Is a community non profit the answer almost certainly - NO

I can take this response.

I was just asking peoples opinion on what’s best for the club I support.

 

[Eastyorksyeltz]

A man who criticises but won’t answer a few simple wuestions

Let’s go with one question

- how much is your season ticket

If that's anything like a grail, I'd guess he's already got one.

 

[RMNottm]

I can take this response.

I was just asking peoples opinion on what’s best for the club I support.

I answered it.

At the top level this is billion pound industry do you think a community non profit is the way forward

 

[Deleted member drgr12429]

If that's anything like a grail, I'd guess he's already got one.

A holy one yes.

 

[wolf1975]

I answered it.

At the top level this is billion pound industry do you think a community non profit is the way forward

My point was if they want to be self sustaining why do you need investors?

You might as well be a non profit.

But Fosun want a profit.

So if they are self sustaining and taking profit in long term and raising ticket prices.

Why do we need an investor?

 

[VancouverWolf]

My point was if they want to be self sustaining why do you need investors?

You might as well be a non profit.

But Fosun want a profit.

So if they are self sustaining and taking profit in long term and raising ticket prices.

Why do we need an investor?

You are just playing games with us. I thought last weekend you were being sincere but now I don’t.
Yes, I could be wrong but you’re being evasive and slippery. Others besides myself have taken the time to answer you but I no longer want to be a source of amusement to you.

 

[Leominster_Wolf]

I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries...

Now go away or I shall taunt you some more

 

[wolf1975]

Now go away or I shall taunt you some more

It’s like the Fosun police on here.

Don’t dare question. Anything.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

I really hope you don't renew. I'd love a season ticket but I'm a few thousand away still

(In people. Not cost. They won't be costing thousands for two seasons or so!)

 

[wolf1975]

I really hope you don't renew. I'd love a season ticket but I'm a few thousand away still

(In people. Not cost. They won't be costing thousands for two seasons or so!)

Didn’t you fancy one under Kenny Jackett or Solbakken?

Why do you want one now and not then?

 

[De Wolfs Mullet]

It’s like the Fosun police on here.

Don’t dare question. Anything.

You obviously don't read any of the other threads on this forum if you think nobody questions Fosun.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

Didn’t you fancy one under Kenny Jackett or Solbakken?

Why do you want one now and not then?

Because I lived in Russia at that time and didn't fancy the commute.

I've had one previous season ticket under Hoddle. I'm still recovering.

 

[The White Mouse]

Christ when you think of some of the threads that have been locked or deleted on here, and this is allowed to remain....

 

[wolf1975]

You obviously don't read any of the other threads on this forum if you think nobody questions Fosun.

I’m talking about certain accounts not everybody.

I see a big difference on here with convo’s and opinions compared to real life chat.

 

[wolf1975]

Because I lived in Russia at that time and didn't fancy the commute.

I've had one previous season ticket under Hoddle. I'm still recovering.

Not the best year to pick eh!

 

[wolf1975]

Christ when you think of some of the threads that have been locked or deleted on here, and this is allowed to remain....

And you want it deleted because……….

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

Not the best year to pick eh!

I still maintain hope that Frankowski will come good

 

[Supadavewolf]

Because I lived in Russia at that time and didn't fancy the commute.

I've had one previous season ticket under Hoddle. I'm still recovering.

You clearly weren't Russian to buy one.

Sorry.

It's the thread. Help!

 

[Sussex Wolf]

You clearly weren't Russian to buy one.

Sorry.

It's the thread. Help!

Playing under Hoddle we weren’t exactly Russian up the pitch either…