Musings from Molineux 23/24

[wolfslair]

Because I don't believe a manager is an all powerful being like it feels you do. Everything is within the context of players, opposition etc. We've made a lot of errors as a club over the years, but sacking this guy would just be another one to add to the list. And lest we forget we lost 5-2 to Leeds and Bournemouth, let alone Liverpool and Brighton, two of the best teams in the league. You gonna kill him for losing to CIty at the weekend?

Gully I have actually worked in football reviewing match and player performances and done opposition team reports as well as played in elite sport. And I can tell you with great certainty as I am sure others on here who played high level/elite/semi pro sport that managers are very powerful and extremely influential on the match day, prep time and during a game. So it is very dismissive of you to say I see them as “all powerful beings”, you clearly like making these videos, but you clearly are struggling with the concept of player fitness regardless of body type (your sasa bean pole comments) and not allowing to use Bournemouth fan/owner opinions to track if he is doing the same habits again (he is) as if you do this for a job you would get slaughtered by your head coach/manager if you didn’t look at his Bournemouth behaviours with him being so new at wolves and his new baseline not being fully available to use/review.

Constructive feedback, as you clearly enjoy making these videos, from someone who has actually done it as a career;

as analysis from sport’s performance at the elite level needs to cover a player at 2 clubs if he has played and been transferred when playing against you in the last 12-18 months. You also do the same when looking at managers, you look at them the same way.

So never dismiss a player or managers behaviours/habits from a former club as a certain situation may not have happened at their new club to plan for but their is an example of the response you need to plan for sue to a stimulus or situation from their previous role tactically/strategically.

A managers role, especially in the half time windows, I can tell you with great certainty I having been in high level teams losing at half time (getting pelters from the paying home fans) and I was personally a key reason why we were behind at half time. I felt lost and confused as a younger player up against a former Scotland international, being beasted by him and I deserved to screamed at and dragged off…… my manager sat down next to me and gave me two tweaks to what I was doing and told me what I missed to exploit in my opponent from what he saw on the touch line. Second half I actually destroyed him and so did one of the other lads as the manager realised we needed to double up on him in defensive structure to reduce his time to look for a pass off to recycle possession and we as a team dominated the second half and won the game. With the manager making tweaks to gameplan and strategy mid half they never had a sniff.

elite sport is a different level mate, it isn’t Sunday league where the coach shouts instructions and gets frustrated the lads aren’t listening. In elite/high performance sport you are listening for the coaches and taking the advice and listening for strategy changes that happen in a game to stay on top or even stop a coming momentum shift from happening.

You said to defend Gary and make him
Look good “Gary makes the change in play and we became more structured and more intelligent” or words to that effect and use that to defend you point he did a good job. So you are actually saying a manager has had a massive impact on the game as it is in play.
But I use the same logic of a manager being able to influence a game you dismiss and poo poo their influence. So you have lost me there mate….. can’t use one rule to make your point then dismiss it because it negates yours when it is applied the other way

 

[gullykular]

Gully I have actually worked in football reviewing match and player performances and done opposition team reports as well as played in elite sport. And I can tell you with great certainty as I am sure others on here who played high level/elite/semi pro sport that managers are very powerful and extremely influential on the match day, prep time and during a game. So it is very dismissive of you to say I see them as “all powerful beings”, you clearly like making these videos, but you clearly are struggling with the concept of player fitness regardless of body type (your sasa bean pole comments) and not allowing to use Bournemouth fan/owner opinions to track if he is doing the same habits again (he is) as if you do this for a job you would get slaughtered by your head coach/manager if you didn’t look at his Bournemouth behaviours with him being so new at wolves and his new baseline not being fully available to use/review.

Constructive feedback, as you clearly enjoy making these videos, from someone who has actually done it as a career;

as analysis from sport’s performance at the elite level needs to cover a player at 2 clubs if he has played and been transferred when playing against you in the last 12-18 months. You also do the same when looking at managers, you look at them the same way.

So never dismiss a player or managers behaviours/habits from a former club as a certain situation may not have happened at their new club to plan for but their is an example of the response you need to plan for sue to a stimulus or situation from their previous role tactically/strategically.

A managers role, especially in the half time windows, I can tell you with great certainty I having been in high level teams losing at half time (getting pelters from the paying home fans) and I was personally a key reason why we were behind at half time. I felt lost and confused as a younger player up against a former Scotland international, being beasted by him and I deserved to screamed at and dragged off…… my manager sat down next to me and gave me two tweaks to what I was doing and told me what I missed to exploit in my opponent from what he saw on the touch line. Second half I actually destroyed him and so did one of the other lads as the manager realised we needed to double up on him in defensive structure to reduce his time to look for a pass off to recycle possession and we as a team dominated the second half and won the game. With the manager making tweaks to gameplan and strategy mid half they never had a sniff.

elite sport is a different level mate, it isn’t Sunday league where the coach shouts instructions and gets frustrated the lads aren’t listening. In elite/high performance sport you are listening for the coaches and taking the advice and listening for strategy changes that happen in a game to stay on top or even stop a coming momentum shift from happening.

You said to defend Gary and make him
Look good “Gary makes the change in play and we became more structured and more intelligent” or words to that effect and use that to defend you point he did a good job. So you are actually saying a manager has had a massive impact on the game as it is in play.
But I use the same logic of a manager being able to influence a game you dismiss and poo poo their influence. So you have lost me there mate….. can’t use one rule to make your point then dismiss it because it negates yours when it is applied the other way

I made the point about his tweak against Luton because A) it had a positive impact and B) it was negated by a red card. To then go into the lead and be undone by a bad refereeing decision, says to me it's difficult to apportion blame on him for that instance, aside from his initial set up.

Obviously things have moved on since then because we've taken a lead and lost it once more against lower league opposition, but as a man of such experience would you not also consider things like match fitness and simple errors as contributory factors as well? New signings bedding in? Not all of these things are at the feet of the manager. I think it's also been taken as me defending the bloke as me being a huge advocate of his qualities (I still think we're working with too small a sample size to truly justify any position on him at the moment) but my point is that the absolute headloss from the fanbase isn't about him ultimately, but the way the club is being run. I'd also like to point out because of the footballing money tree, everyone's working to a shorter-term timeline versus what should be considered reasonable which is something that exists within the vacuum that is the sport. It's insanity elsewhere. I remember a Graham Potter Brighton team being booed off by their home fans in the recent past (again not a comparison in terms of what I expect to happen with GON).

 

[wolfslair]

I made the point about his tweak against Luton because A) it had a positive impact and B) it was negated by a red card. To then go into the lead and be undone by a bad refereeing decision, says to me it's difficult to apportion blame on him for that instance, aside from his initial set up.

Obviously things have moved on since then because we've taken a lead and lost it once more against lower league opposition, but as a man of such experience would you not also consider things like match fitness and simple errors as contributory factors as well? New signings bedding in? Not all of these things are at the feet of the manager. I think it's also been taken as me defending the bloke as me being a huge advocate of his qualities (I still think we're working with too small a sample size to truly justify any position on him at the moment) but my point is that the absolute headloss from the fanbase isn't about him ultimately, but the way the club is being run. I'd also like to point out because of the footballing money tree, everyone's working to a shorter-term timeline versus what should be considered reasonable which is something that exists within the vacuum that is the sport. It's insanity elsewhere. I remember a Graham Potter Brighton team being booed off by their home fans in the recent past (again not a comparison in terms of what I expect to happen with GON).

Gully, the lads starting in the prem are fully Match fit…….

But gully…. Again you lean into he made the tweak in play…. It improved them….. but negate my point that shows his half time skills are exceptionally poor to date at wolves and they were at Bournemouth (established behaviour and trait).

Only one new signing played gully, so why say plural? Only JRB was signed as an imediate front line starter. Doyle and Bueno are clearly depth signings and Gonzales is a long term developmental signing. So the “new signings” line and arguement is quite weak.

He also left a knackered and out muscled Neto to be the hold up player against much bigger cb’s…… brain dead management as sasa was the only sensible option to be the hold up player with back to goal as the outlet as he has played that role with success in Germany and international football. Pedro Neto hasn’t and hasn’t got that skillset in his locker, so why take him away from his wide role? The only threat we have to put it centrally where it won’t work? He was settling and hoping for the point……. Gomes or lemina were also spent (tactics and strategy are meaning they are having to do to much each week) and b.traore should have come on for one of them and Sasa for cunha.

To quote you again “going for the jugular” isn’t the only reason you bring on a striker like sasa…. That was very naive and small thinking to the wider strategy of football…… he was needed to be the outlet ball who had greater chance to slow the game down or make it harder for their cb’s to control that area of the pitch as easily as they did with Neto….

GO sacrificed the game and was a tactical coward….. look back to Southampton, an equally incompetent referee, 10’men and we were always the better team and scored twice against a Soton team that is much better than Luton. That is a fact, look at the fees generated for their squad in the summer, Luton won’t get close to these for any of theirs when relegated.

In the week we conceded two in the first half and the third wasn’t in the 70th minute plus I don’t think (forgive if wrong).

Sadly gully you are buying into the lazy line wheeled out by new coaches that the players “aren’t as fit as I would want” in this case it is total tosh!

They ran more distance, did more explosive sprints in the United game and in the first half than any other performance in the league so far. Gomes and lemina are getting tired faster because GO has basic “run around and be busy” tactics that aren’t clever or spreading the work load like JL used extremely well and he set up for the Utd game. It is why both excelled in the game in patches as one worked hard the other was “actively resting” and acting as their second defender, then they swapped. This saved their gas tank and keeps them on the field longer. The issue is player instruction and not fitness at the base level like GO is trying to hide behind with lazy wording.

I have covered the passing accuracy issues kn a post elsewhere, but he is reducing their freedom and ability to look for space out of possession if you compare Luton (pre season), Rennes, Utd to anything since GO has had time to coach. They move less, slower and in more easy to defend lines. This is reducing; time on the ball, quality of passing lines and also number of options to the ball carrier. So many of the issues are very much strategy and tactic based and not giving the players many chances for statistical success with passing.

gully, I am sorry but the guy is so far out of his depth at this level. It was clear early on that he was. He has a very low football and managerial IQ and his in game management is borderline remedial looking at the huddle after the second goal for us against Ipswich and the speed of the capitulation of goals they scored after he made tweaks. That was a major example that he is a weak and very poor tactician….. he didn’t need to change a thing! It was actually a case of “keep it going and this is 3/4:0 at half time” but no, he made tweaks and we folded like paper.

They made ten changes, they had the same prep and previous experience and time playing as our lads did….. not many hadn’t played in the league ( only Bentley & Bueno I think on a quick glance) at some point for us too…..

he played very close to this exact team in the previous round so his line of they haven’t played together before was crap! But I guess you swallowed it while based on your posts so far?

Elite sport gully is cruel, unforgiving and also very exposing and if you aren’t good enough any issues are exposed at a rapid rate…..

From what we have seen, he is significantly out of his depth and shouldn’t stay in post as he hasn’t got the skills, reasoning or understanding of football (based on interviews) or experience for the job he is in.

You keep saying too small a sample size gully…… you keep dismissing crucial evidence from his previous role…. As I told you this HAS to and would be used if you were doing what you’re trying to do as videos as a career at a club. So please stop saying the phrase as while it looks clever, you ignoring and blanket denial of crucial data and behaviours and what is essential data for a raw and inexperienced manager means you cannot use the phrase with any credibility in an analytical debate about elite sport performance and review.

 

[gullykular]

Gully, the lads starting in the prem are fully Match fit…….

But gully…. Again you lean into he made the tweak in play…. It improved them….. but negate my point that shows his half time skills are exceptionally poor to date at wolves and they were at Bournemouth (established behaviour and trait).

Only one new signing played gully, so why say plural? Only JRB was signed as an imediate front line starter. Doyle and Bueno are clearly depth signings and Gonzales is a long term developmental signing. So the “new signings” line and arguement is quite weak.

He also left a knackered and out muscled Neto to be the hold up player against much bigger cb’s…… brain dead management as sasa was the only sensible option to be the hold up player with back to goal as the outlet as he has played that role with success in Germany and international football. Pedro Neto hasn’t and hasn’t got that skillset in his locker, so why take him away from his wide role? The only threat we have to put it centrally where it won’t work? He was settling and hoping for the point……. Gomes or lemina were also spent (tactics and strategy are meaning they are having to do to much each week) and b.traore should have come on for one of them and Sasa for cunha.

To quote you again “going for the jugular” isn’t the only reason you bring on a striker like sasa…. That was very naive and small thinking to the wider strategy of football…… he was needed to be the outlet ball who had greater chance to slow the game down or make it harder for their cb’s to control that area of the pitch as easily as they did with Neto….

GO sacrificed the game and was a tactical coward….. look back to Southampton, an equally incompetent referee, 10’men and we were always the better team and scored twice against a Soton team that is much better than Luton. That is a fact, look at the fees generated for their squad in the summer, Luton won’t get close to these for any of theirs when relegated.

In the week we conceded two in the first half and the third wasn’t in the 70th minute plus I don’t think (forgive if wrong).

Sadly gully you are buying into the lazy line wheeled out by new coaches that the players “aren’t as fit as I would want” in this case it is total tosh!

They ran more distance, did more explosive sprints in the United game and in the first half than any other performance in the league so far. Gomes and lemina are getting tired faster because GO has basic “run around and be busy” tactics that aren’t clever or spreading the work load like JL used extremely well and he set up for the Utd game. It is why both excelled in the game in patches as one worked hard the other was “actively resting” and acting as their second defender, then they swapped. This saved their gas tank and keeps them on the field longer. The issue is player instruction and not fitness at the base level like GO is trying to hide behind with lazy wording.

I have covered the passing accuracy issues kn a post elsewhere, but he is reducing their freedom and ability to look for space out of possession if you compare Luton (pre season), Rennes, Utd to anything since GO has had time to coach. They move less, slower and in more easy to defend lines. This is reducing; time on the ball, quality of passing lines and also number of options to the ball carrier. So many of the issues are very much strategy and tactic based and not giving the players many chances for statistical success with passing.

gully, I am sorry but the guy is so far out of his depth at this level. It was clear early on that he was. He has a very low football and managerial IQ and his in game management is borderline remedial looking at the huddle after the second goal for us against Ipswich and the speed of the capitulation of goals they scored after he made tweaks. That was a major example that he is a weak and very poor tactician….. he didn’t need to change a thing! It was actually a case of “keep it going and this is 3/4:0 at half time” but no, he made tweaks and we folded like paper.

They made ten changes, they had the same prep and previous experience and time playing as our lads did….. not many hadn’t played in the league ( only Bentley & Bueno I think on a quick glance) at some point for us too…..

he played very close to this exact team in the previous round so his line of they haven’t played together before was crap! But I guess you swallowed it while based on your posts so far?

Elite sport gully is cruel, unforgiving and also very exposing and if you aren’t good enough any issues are exposed at a rapid rate…..

From what we have seen, he is significantly out of his depth and shouldn’t stay in post as he hasn’t got the skills, reasoning or understanding of football (based on interviews) or experience for the job he is in.

You keep saying too small a sample size gully…… you keep dismissing crucial evidence from his previous role…. As I told you this HAS to and would be used if you were doing what you’re trying to do as videos as a career at a club. So please stop saying the phrase as while it looks clever, you ignoring and blanket denial of crucial data and behaviours and what is essential data for a raw and inexperienced manager means you cannot use the phrase with any credibility in an analytical debate about elite sport performance and review.

I don't think you can consider Bentley, Doherty, Jonny, Santi, Toti, Doyle, Bouba and Sasa as match fit, but fine. Clearly you feel very passionately about this and mine is not to dissuade you from that point (not likely anyhow), but I do try to be as objective as possible and view a game on its merits. I'm the ONLY Wolves fan providing such content and whilst your experience will suggest I'm being blinkered to certain things, I have a few valuable resources, my own view of the game (having played and still playing to a decent level myself) and the information to hand about those responsible for getting results at the club. My issue is that the side of the argument you're on is becoming genuinely hysterical from a large section of the fanbase and I'm just trying to put that into perspective as much as I can. People have honestly lost their heads over this situation and I thinks it's hugely damaging if the discourse continues in such a way. Naturally I'm fighting against the tide (empathising, not defending) with the current coaching staff and inevitably, things will take their natural course in such circumstances barring a significant turnaround, but that's not going to leave us in a particularly positive position whichever way you look at it.

 

[wolfslair]

I don't think you can consider Bentley, Doherty, Jonny, Santi, Toti, Doyle, Bouba and Sasa as match fit, but fine. Clearly you feel very passionately about this and mine is not to dissuade you from that point (not likely anyhow), but I do try to be as objective as possible and view a game on its merits. I'm the ONLY Wolves fan providing such content and whilst your experience will suggest I'm being blinkered to certain things, I have a few valuable resources, my own view of the game (having played and still playing to a decent level myself) and the information to hand about those responsible for getting results at the club. My issue is that the side of the argument you're on is becoming genuinely hysterical from a large section of the fanbase and I'm just trying to put that into perspective as much as I can. People have honestly lost their heads over this situation and I thinks it's hugely damaging if the discourse continues in such a way. Naturally I'm fighting against the tide (empathising, not defending) with the current coaching staff and inevitably, things will take their natural course in such circumstances barring a significant turnaround, but that's not going to leave us in a particularly positive position whichever way you look at it.

Very true mate, as I said I do enjoy your content. I said previously it feels at the moment compared to your previous and very good videos that you are reaching too hard to create a positive narrative and storyline for this current period of time. And you have said a few times “defend” in regards to GO, that is putting blinkers on you here mate. As your other videos are far more balanced and don’t seem to have the impression that you are reaching and stretching stats to paint a picture like you have here.

On the players mentioned, I said the prem starters are match fit, not the lads mentioned there who played in the week. But they Ipswich lads had players of championship standard where the fitness demands are much lower and many who haven’t played too.

So both teams had players out who aren’t match fit or sharp. So both players and managers had the same issues here and only one manager handled it correctly….. and it wasn’t ours. The fact ours changed a winning strategy and tactic and then couldn’t right his error against a championship reserve team is deeply deeply concerning and a clear sign of his poor skills and ability level.

I do agree there is a hysterical side of the fan base, but I am coming from the side of someone who has been victim as a staff member (we got relegated and many of us let go) when a club persevered with a bad managerial hire for too long. And sadly mate, I see on the pitch, his conduct on the touch lines and his media interview answers all the scary hallmarks that myself and deer friends and colleagues have experienced before.

He is sadly going to take us down if he stays, the longer he stays the more damage he causes.

I am already getting banter messages from former colleagues and acquaintances at prem clubs joking they will be forced to work part time the week before the wolves game because we are strategically and tactically so poor this season. I know this is hyperbole, but it offers an insight into what people do think of GO managed wolves.

My opinion can be changed, it very much can, but he hasn’t shown the integrity to own a mistake himself or take the heat off the lads (he has demeaned them and what they achieved last season a few times now) to give me the mind space to think and believe he has the managerial talent or flair to do so.

 

[Chisels_n_ommers]

Gully, the lads starting in the prem are fully Match fit…….

But gully…. Again you lean into he made the tweak in play…. It improved them….. but negate my point that shows his half time skills are exceptionally poor to date at wolves and they were at Bournemouth (established behaviour and trait).

Only one new signing played gully, so why say plural? Only JRB was signed as an imediate front line starter. Doyle and Bueno are clearly depth signings and Gonzales is a long term developmental signing. So the “new signings” line and arguement is quite weak.

He also left a knackered and out muscled Neto to be the hold up player against much bigger cb’s…… brain dead management as sasa was the only sensible option to be the hold up player with back to goal as the outlet as he has played that role with success in Germany and international football. Pedro Neto hasn’t and hasn’t got that skillset in his locker, so why take him away from his wide role? The only threat we have to put it centrally where it won’t work? He was settling and hoping for the point……. Gomes or lemina were also spent (tactics and strategy are meaning they are having to do to much each week) and b.traore should have come on for one of them and Sasa for cunha.

To quote you again “going for the jugular” isn’t the only reason you bring on a striker like sasa…. That was very naive and small thinking to the wider strategy of football…… he was needed to be the outlet ball who had greater chance to slow the game down or make it harder for their cb’s to control that area of the pitch as easily as they did with Neto….

GO sacrificed the game and was a tactical coward….. look back to Southampton, an equally incompetent referee, 10’men and we were always the better team and scored twice against a Soton team that is much better than Luton. That is a fact, look at the fees generated for their squad in the summer, Luton won’t get close to these for any of theirs when relegated.

In the week we conceded two in the first half and the third wasn’t in the 70th minute plus I don’t think (forgive if wrong).

Sadly gully you are buying into the lazy line wheeled out by new coaches that the players “aren’t as fit as I would want” in this case it is total tosh!

They ran more distance, did more explosive sprints in the United game and in the first half than any other performance in the league so far. Gomes and lemina are getting tired faster because GO has basic “run around and be busy” tactics that aren’t clever or spreading the work load like JL used extremely well and he set up for the Utd game. It is why both excelled in the game in patches as one worked hard the other was “actively resting” and acting as their second defender, then they swapped. This saved their gas tank and keeps them on the field longer. The issue is player instruction and not fitness at the base level like GO is trying to hide behind with lazy wording.

I have covered the passing accuracy issues kn a post elsewhere, but he is reducing their freedom and ability to look for space out of possession if you compare Luton (pre season), Rennes, Utd to anything since GO has had time to coach. They move less, slower and in more easy to defend lines. This is reducing; time on the ball, quality of passing lines and also number of options to the ball carrier. So many of the issues are very much strategy and tactic based and not giving the players many chances for statistical success with passing.

gully, I am sorry but the guy is so far out of his depth at this level. It was clear early on that he was. He has a very low football and managerial IQ and his in game management is borderline remedial looking at the huddle after the second goal for us against Ipswich and the speed of the capitulation of goals they scored after he made tweaks. That was a major example that he is a weak and very poor tactician….. he didn’t need to change a thing! It was actually a case of “keep it going and this is 3/4:0 at half time” but no, he made tweaks and we folded like paper.

They made ten changes, they had the same prep and previous experience and time playing as our lads did….. not many hadn’t played in the league ( only Bentley & Bueno I think on a quick glance) at some point for us too…..

he played very close to this exact team in the previous round so his line of they haven’t played together before was crap! But I guess you swallowed it while based on your posts so far?

Elite sport gully is cruel, unforgiving and also very exposing and if you aren’t good enough any issues are exposed at a rapid rate…..

From what we have seen, he is significantly out of his depth and shouldn’t stay in post as he hasn’t got the skills, reasoning or understanding of football (based on interviews) or experience for the job he is in.

You keep saying too small a sample size gully…… you keep dismissing crucial evidence from his previous role…. As I told you this HAS to and would be used if you were doing what you’re trying to do as videos as a career at a club. So please stop saying the phrase as while it looks clever, you ignoring and blanket denial of crucial data and behaviours and what is essential data for a raw and inexperienced manager means you cannot use the phrase with any credibility in an analytical debate about elite sport performance and review.

This is absolutely 100% on point and extremely inciteful.

Can you not do a bit of consultancy work for the Club? I've heard they pay well (but don't quote me on that)

 

[wolfslair]

This is absolutely 100% on point and extremely inciteful.

Can you not do a bit of consultancy work for the Club? I've heard they pay well (but don't quote me on that)

Hahaha

I have a quality of life since leaving footy

hahaha

the hours are insane and having to be a carer now it i get to moan on a forum like a normal fan, it is hard to stop being overly critical and at times looking for issues rather than enjoying it…… still haven’t gotten that part down yet

hahahaha

 

[AndyY]

Wolflair for Head Coach? Or maybe DoF???!!!

 

[wolfslair]

Wolflair for Head Coach? Or maybe DoF???!!!

I am a behind the scenes video guy who used to write reports and speak to the gaffer…. No more and no less lol

I cannot coach/manage to save my life! I know my skill set. If I was a hands on coach I would be so far out of my depth I would drown in a puddle lol

so I went into video analysis, it was far better for the players as my work experience placement while at uni taught me hahaha

 

[DJW]

Be careful what you're accusing people of.

It makes no odds to me. I'll give any manager, regardless of race, nationality or managerial background a decent amount of time before I start making judgments about whether he's good enough for the job.

Hobbs wont

 

[Sussex Wolf]

The only thing that Wolves fans can judge GON on, is his time at Wolves.

It's been 7 games, which is no time at all.

It's obvious that many do not like the bloke because he's not Lopetegui or some other supposed 'elite level' manager.

Absolute rubbish. Of course fans judge new managers based on their prior experience. To argue they can’t is utter nonsense. When a new manager is hired, it’s all we have to go on.

For example, Bruno Lage worried many, me included, because of the way Benfica imploded in his second season. It was a major red flag. He was rightly praised for the way we played in those first few games, and the way he adapted for the run we went on in the first half of his first season. When the wheels fell off as injuries impacted the squad, the alarm bells rang and he appeared unable to turn things around, just like at Benfica. Loads of us wanted him sacked in the summer, and it’s rumoured the club tried approaching JL then, so it seems our concerns were shared by those in charge.

Stourport was warning about Lopetegui from the moment he was linked with us after Lage. Those concerns proved prescient for what happened this summer.

So sure we can look at GON and look at how his Bournemouth team performed, how they survived largely through luck rather than his brilliance, and what Bournemouth fans said about his management style. So 7 games in, when we see exactly those things which Bournemouth fans warned us about, then of course we can be worried. Add to that his inability to accept responsibility and attempts at deflection for the deteriorating team performances, and he’s already looking like one of our worst managers in decades.

So yeah, I want this fraud out of the club, just like I want Shi out of the club for his incompetence and failures.

 

[Pengwern]

I’ve watched other teams in this elite League look at least as bad as Wolves this season. I’ve seen keeperd make errors as bad as Bentley and Sa, strikers miss chances like Cunha and others.

it is a very competitive League but the richest clubs have an unfair advantage over the majority of clubs and the referees are sub-standard. GON is not the only manager struggling to get s new plan work. Boards are impatient and fans even more so.

 

[Chisels_n_ommers]

7 games people! 7!

Gully, he got it spot on today mate.
I hope he and everyone at the club gain confidence from this.

Looking forward to your analysis on this one

 

[Rowzed]

Hahaha

I have a quality of life since leaving footy

hahaha

the hours are insane and having to be a carer now it i get to moan on a forum like a normal fan, it is hard to stop being overly critical and at times looking for issues rather than enjoying it…… still haven’t gotten that part down yet

hahahaha

With you there Wolfslair as someone in a similar boat.
I had many years in elite sport, dressing rooms, tactical briefings and in match decision making, now enjoying the match without the stress of responsibility. I don’t think you can ever lose that critical eye and fully rediscover the innocent enjoyment. But I still love an unexpected win and thrilled to see one or two really talented players enjoying their talent again. Neto and Semedo in particular

 

[wolfslair]

With you there Wolfslair as someone in a similar boat.
I had many years in elite sport, dressing rooms, tactical briefings and in match decision making, now enjoying the match without the stress of responsibility. I don’t think you can ever lose that critical eye and fully rediscover the innocent enjoyment. But I still love an unexpected win and thrilled to see one or two really talented players enjoying their talent again. Neto and Semedo in particular

100% mate…… today was a great day! Unexpected but Jesus, we will take those all day!!

As other teams will grab an unexpected result
Along the way.

 

[gullykular]

The one you've all been waiting for - Wolves 2-1 Man City

 

[gullykular]

A stalemate, basically by design, with both teams cancelling each other out.

 

[gullykular]

Despite GON's tell-all last night, still a couple of bits to pick up on in this week's video:

 

[SuperGran]

Despite GON's tell-all last night, still a couple of bits to pick up on in this week's video:

Thank you gully

 

[gullykular]

A hybrid shape stifling Newcastle's right flank and who should replace Neto?

 

[gullykular]

Felt like a nice point to take stock and see how we're getting on from a data POV

 

[gullykular]

Nothing tactical about this week's video: an impassioned rant on the state of the game.