Marshall Munetsi

You had an ACL injury you can't recover from an ACL as it's part of your body.

I've had 3 ACL ruptures and 3 replacements so I feel you pain. I completely tore my MCL in my left knee in one of the ruptures just for good measure.

Good luck with the recovery.
I wish, it wasn't injured, it was ripped in half.

Slowly bouncing back anyway. Looks like I won't get to play for Wolves. Only because of the ACL of course.
 
I wish, it wasn't injured, it was ripped in half.

Slowly bouncing back anyway. Looks like I won't get to play for Wolves. Only because of the ACL of course.
Not much fun having an ACL injury.

And I'd like to blame not being a professional footballer on that too...

Footballers do tend to need ACL's as does the rest of the human race with working knees.
 
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He played his best role last night - subbed on on to bring energy and create a bit of chaos. He 100% should not be starting any games.
But we're starting games playing rubbish for the first half. If we were playing well then I get it but we're not. When he's not on the pitch, we're rubbish. When he is, we're a lot less rubbish.

If we're better when he plays, why would we not start him based only on the principle that individually, he's perceived to be not very good?

He's currently our top scorer isn't he? so he must be doing something right?
 
But we're starting games playing rubbish for the first half. If we were playing well then I get it but we're not. When he's not on the pitch, we're rubbish. When he is, we're a lot less rubbish.

If we're better when he plays, why would we not start him based only on the principle that individually, he's perceived to be not very good?

He's currently our top scorer isn't he? so he must be doing something right?
I think putting Krejci at the base of midfield instead of Agbadou probably had a bigger impact than Munetsi chasing his own shadow. That feels to me like a more logical reason for us being less rubbish.
 
This bugs me, probably more than it should.

You do not recover from an ACL. Everybody on the planet born with functioning knees has 2 Anterior Cruciate Ligaments (ACL). You can injure your ACL and have it repaired or more likely replaced but you can't recover from an ACL as it is the name of the actual ligament.

It would be like saying you're recovering from foot. It makes no sense.

Apologies for the rant Gully.
I appreciate the sentiment, will refrain from falling foul of this in future :D
 
The problem with 'we're better with him in the side' is that we still haven't played our strongest foundational 5 in the same team yet:

Mosquera-Agbadou-Krejci
Andre-Gomes

That's a physically strong, technically competent group of players that should alleviate any issues that Munetsi is perceived as masking. The front three can be a combination of Arias/Bellegarde/JSL/Tolu/Hwang/Lopez IMO and we shouldn't suffer the issues we (apparently) do when Munetsi isn't in the team, but also progress the ball to the top end of the pitch without having to pump it long.
 
The problem with 'we're better with him in the side' is that we still haven't played our strongest foundational 5 in the same team yet:

Mosquera-Agbadou-Krejci
Andre-Gomes

That's a physically strong, technically competent group of players that should alleviate any issues that Munetsi is perceived as masking. The front three can be a combination of Arias/Bellegarde/JSL/Tolu/Hwang/Lopez IMO and we shouldn't suffer the issues we (apparently) do when Munetsi isn't in the team, but also progress the ball to the top end of the pitch without having to pump it long.
The trouble is that Mosquero & Agbadou have both been poor (V poor in Agbadous case) so far this season, until the second half last night.
 
Am not his biggest fan, but at least the guy gives 100% out there. Yes he lacks technical ability & often spatial awareness, but his head doesnt go down like the others. We need that positivity to keep going when things get tough (& they will get tough after Fulham)
There's far bigger issues than Munetsi. Looks like he'll be the new scapegoat like Henry, Batth, Keogh, Osborne and others before him!
 
The trouble is that Mosquero & Agbadou have both been poor (V poor in Agbadous case) so far this season, until the second half last night.
Agreed, they’ve been terrible, but it feels like we need to give them a chance to play themselves back into form at some stage.

Agbadou and Mosquera are some players when they’re on it.
 
The trouble is that Mosquero & Agbadou have both been poor (V poor in Agbadous case) so far this season, until the second half last night.
Agbadou is our best defender, period. Mosquera's barely played. Krejci can be a reassuring presence alongside them. That's the foundation of at least a midtable PL team, when you throw Andre and Gomes in there. From this, you don't need to score loads of goals to win games IMO.

Agba's head has been switched back on after watching him last night. He saved our season last time round. That's the player, not the one we've all seen misplace a few passes this season.
 
Terrible passing statistics & terrible pressing/defensive statistics. I'm sorry, he's genuinely a terrible footballer for premier league level
How can he possibly have terrible pressing defensive stats? He defends from the front!

Yes in an ideal world we should of upgraded him this summer and he becomes a sub that comes on to see games out and gets the odd cup run. But as said previously he's far from our biggest problem right now, we need to start keeping clean sheets first and foremost!
 
Isnt the biggest problem right now, that we've so many average footballers. It makes it even more difficult to carry a player who's main asset is physicality, an awful lot of running (closing passing lanes), and creating a bit of chaos up front once in a while?
If we had a lots of creative players, he'd provide something different, but because we mostly have passenger players, his weaknesses are highlighted even more.
In other words, I would replace him either with Lopez, who I know isnt really a PL player yet, but still has more ability to create something, or Tolu and just play him and Larsen up front. They are both big guys, but Tolu makes some of the same runs in behind, that Munetsi attempts, but unlike Munetis has other attributes to his game too.
 
People were saying Marshall Munetsi would be the sword on which Pereira finally skewered himself. Persisting with him in the team, while dropping both Andre and Gomes, was a step too far for Jeff it seems.
 
Paying 19 million quid for Lopez and failing to give him a game may also have had something to do with it. Not to mention the bright spark Mane. Neither are 6ft 6 brick ****houses seems to have been the problem.
 
As poor as he is on the ball, I'd have him in most international squads for the energy and running he brings. Zimbabwe can't be that good to leave him out!
 
The problem with 'we're better with him in the side' is that we still haven't played our strongest foundational 5 in the same team yet:

Mosquera-Agbadou-Krejci
Andre-Gomes

That's a physically strong, technically competent group of players that should alleviate any issues that Munetsi is perceived as masking. The front three can be a combination of Arias/Bellegarde/JSL/Tolu/Hwang/Lopez IMO and we shouldn't suffer the issues we (apparently) do when Munetsi isn't in the team, but also progress the ball to the top end of the pitch without having to pump it long.
Yep, worth a punt.
 
If we stick to 352, I’d consider using Munetsi as the second striker, some mobility and running around Larsen/Tolu.

I don’t really see any other position it can be justified to have him in the starting 11. And I’m unconvinced Tolu and Larsen make a partnership.
 
If we stick to 352, I’d consider using Munetsi as the second striker, some mobility and running around Larsen/Tolu.

I don’t really see any other position it can be justified to have him in the starting 11. And I’m unconvinced Tolu and Larsen make a partnership.
There are zero positions you can justify playing him he’s absolutely awful.
 
If we stick to 352, I’d consider using Munetsi as the second striker, some mobility and running around Larsen/Tolu.

I don’t really see any other position it can be justified to have him in the starting 11. And I’m unconvinced Tolu and Larsen make a partnership.
What mobility?

He has good stamina, but has the top speed of sleeping rhino and the touch of a brick wall.

There is no justification for his inclusion in the starting 11 in any circumstance. He’s lucky to have a squad number.

“Oh but he can press for away games” (not mimicking you, just the inevitable comments)…

And the answer is he can’t. You can’t tackle if you’re 5 yards off the pace of the game.

I’d actually love to see his tackling stats in the attacking third if someone is willing to humour me!
 
What mobility?

He has good stamina, but has the top speed of sleeping rhino and the touch of a brick wall.

There is no justification for his inclusion in the starting 11 in any circumstance. He’s lucky to have a squad number.

“Oh but he can press for away games” (not mimicking you, just the inevitable comments)…

And the answer is he can’t. You can’t tackle if you’re 5 yards off the pace of the game.

I’d actually love to see his tackling stats in the attacking third if someone is willing to humour me!
0.37 per 90, which puts him in the 66th percentile versus other Attacking midfielders or wingers
 
0.37 per 90, which puts him in the 66th percentile versus other Attacking midfielders or wingers
Ffs!

He has energy and stamina but can’t play football. Could trap cement .

Probably captain in the championship then . Jesus
 
0.37 per 90, which puts him in the 66th percentile versus other Attacking midfielders or wingers
Thank you.

Staggeringly **** all round.

Can’t pass, can’t tackle, can’t create - scores one in 8/9 games?!

And people have the audacity to see he isn’t one of our biggest issues. Alongside Hwang he’s the biggest issue.

Playing with 10 men every week doesn’t make much sense.
 
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