Joao Moutinho Surely Deserves a New 1 or 2 year Contract

[WickedWolfie]

Wolves do seem to do a good job of this, it has to be said.



The way the top professionals take care of themselves these days and with all the sports science, nutrition, improvements in surgical techniques and so on, players can definitely go well into their late 30s. The main problem age causes is loss of pace.

Re your first para Wolves or Nuno? He was close to the players, particularly the Portuguese ones, in a way Lage reportedly is not.

 

[Jay Jay de Wolf]

Player coach role or just a 1 year contract

Don't give Jeff Shi an idea like that as he's already done it with other cost cutting managerial staff at our club

 

[WickedWolfie]

We cannot lose Neves, Donck AND Moutinho in the same window. Madness if we do. I hope they give him what he wants as he's still a very classy player. Also if that makes is impossible to pay wages to the line of incoming Hwangs Sellars has line up... even better.

I agree most of this but not the gratuitous Sellars dig.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

A 3 year contract. The first year as a player, and the following 2 years as a coach with a clause which pays him at the higher player rate for any games he plays.

 

[Mighty Thor]

If we are going into next years planning thinking moutinho will be anything more than an experienced head to have in the squad and around the club we are in deep **** already.

 

[WickedWolfie]

A 3 year contract. The first year as a player, and the following 2 years as a coach with a clause which pays him at the higher player rate for any games he plays.

Not a bad plan... although it means that he will be constantly pushing to play....

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Not a bad plan... although it means that he will be constantly pushing to play....

Which I like, because that’s a strong incentive to continue to stay match fit, as long as he accepts in his heart that over that time he’s going to play less and will eventually stop. It assumes that he wants to make that transition, and wants to stay Iocally for the time being.

 

[JadeWolf]

If we are going into next years planning thinking moutinho will be anything more than an experienced head to have in the squad and around the club we are in deep **** already.

Moutinho is still a quality player.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Moutinho is still a quality player.

Agreed but l wouldn't want to see him playing every game.

 

[JadeWolf]

Agreed but l wouldn't want to see him playing every game.

I dunno, everyone’s been saying his legs are going for 2 years but he’s been pretty consistent.

 

[freezin]

If reports are to believed he's paid double Neves' wages.

 

[JOSWolf]

I am fine with him staying if we are signing a couple of central midfielders with some pace to add to quality. Not fine if all we are doing is selling Neves, replacing him and then just having this with Dendoncker and Moutinho. Midfield badly needs a revamp. If Moutinho stays he really shouldnt be starting every week for me. Fresh blood is badly needed in central midfield and has been for a couple of years now.

 

[JOSWolf]

I dunno, everyone’s been saying his legs are going for 2 years but he’s been pretty consistent.

To me he has looked very jaded the last 5 or 6 weeks. Need other options in this area for me, now and some pace.

 

[Mighty Thor]

Moutinho is still a quality player.

What does that even mean? Technically he is the same player. Calm, composed, able to take and rotate possession. A classic car is still a classic car.

However, he cannot get up and down the pitch and when we don’t have the ball (over 50% of pretty much each game we play) other teams destroy our midfield because he doesn’t have legs to chase them all over the pitch.

No amount of quality can make up for that fact.

 

[JadeWolf]

To me he has looked very jaded the last 5 or 6 weeks. Need other options in this area for me, now and some pace.

Of course we do but I don’t see any reason why Moutinho can’t be a big part of our team next season with the right players around him.

 

[DDPPwolf313]

Get him signed up.

Reduced wages - reduced playing time please. But there should still be an important role for this absolute legend.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Get him signed up.

Reduced wages - reduced playing time please. But there should still be an important role for this absolute legend.

If Ruben, God forbid, does go he might just be back in this role, perhaps with a view to getting into coaching too, in 7 or 8 years time....

 

[inaglasshouse]

Don't know enough about his personality to say if he is coach material. As a player, definitely worth keeping. If that requires a two year deal then so be it. A bird in the hand ..

 

[Deleted member 11021Mcm]

Give him a contract that takes him on a route into the coaching staff. Keep him at the club!

 

[Halesowen wwfc]

Most people seem to be complaining about our style of play. Moutinho dictates the way we play, alongside neves and coady. The backwards passing, playing it safe, getting run past in midfield as we have no pace through the middle. It is a conundrum, they are the heart and soul of the team and everything we have stood for the last 4/5 years but, if we want an end to the last 2 years of negative play then i dont see a place for moutinho in the team going forwards.

 

[TheConcourse]

Joao average? 144 caps for Portugal, called up again for the next matches and no doubt the world cup. Average is Hwang. JM is class personified, and we need to keep him here for 2 years minimum. Like i have said on another thread, when you are trying to bring youngsters through you need experienced players. Anyone who can't see that does not know football, or life.

Do you really though? I’d say it’s less about experience and more about quality.

I don’t see experience being any sort of metric that is interesting enough to give away £10m over 2 years.

Countless examples of players in our squad with pretty significant levels of experience having bang average seasons. I wouldn’t discount it as not being valuable in some instances, but I wouldn’t place it above quality.

As it goes, I’d like to see Joao stay for another year. At the base of a midfield he’d be fine for us alongside another quality CM.

I’d give him a year, and at £100k a week, or whatever he’s on now, it would be far and beyond what he’s likely to get anywhere in world football.

 

[Pagey]

The question of offering him a new 2 year deal all depends on who we start the season with, playing alongside him, and the system we employ.

I'm not saying he will play every match, but as the list of players looking like they're moving on grows, we need someone level headed, experienced and some continuity.

£5 m a year is nothing compared to a £20-30m transfer and 60-80k a week for an average midfielder and therefor a gamble.

We have bigger issues to worry about than giving him a 2 year deal, this summer.

 

[fleck1]

Age is just a number, players like Joao are ultimate professionals and live for the game, they look after their bodies and do their recovery. With the Fosun mantra being buy young and develop to move on, Moutinho can write whatever numbers he wants on that contract. He still has enormous value to the starting XI, but on the flip side what a role model and mentor for all these young players.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Give Moutinho whatever he wants. He’s a leader and icon for this club

 

[Mugwump]

We need to keep him. As others have said, he is a leader, he sets the standards and we cant afford to lose him this window.

 

[Bacon Sandwich]

Moutinho is still a quality player.

No, he isn't. He has declined every season with Wolves, he has a goal contribution about once every 9 or 10 games, his free kicks and corners are poor and statistically he is a worse player than Josh Brownhill of Burnley.

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

To me he has looked very jaded the last 5 or 6 weeks. Need other options in this area for me, now and some pace.

Yes. He was one of the standouts in the early 2/3 of the season but fell off.

Perhaps a sign that he can't play every week

 

[Jay Jay de Wolf]

Give him a contract that takes him on a route into the coaching staff. Keep him at the club!

Absolutely simple's as this to Jeff Shi if he's got any football sense and for the future good of WWFC

 

[PezzaOnthesouthbank]

Most people seem to be complaining about our style of play. Moutinho dictates the way we play, alongside neves and coady. The backwards passing, playing it safe, getting run past in midfield as we have no pace through the middle. It is a conundrum, they are the heart and soul of the team and everything we have stood for the last 4/5 years but, if we want an end to the last 2 years of negative play then i dont see a place for moutinho in the team going forwards.

This, the game against Brighton really showed our lack of legs

 

[Jay Jay de Wolf]

Wolves: Journalist reveals key man in discussion over new contract

Journalist Liam Keen revealed on the Express & Star Wolves Podcast that key midfielder Joao Moutinho is currently in discussions with the Midlands team over a new contract,

thisisfutbol.com

 

[Jay Jay de Wolf]

Wolves defender Nelson Semedo believes Joao Moutinho will stay

Nelson Semedo admits he would prefer Wolves’ out-of-contract players to stay with the club and says he expects Joao Moutinho to sign a new deal.

www.expressandstar.com

 

[Ercall Wolves]

For me it’s a no brainer give him a new contract
The man is absolute quality
How much would it cost to replace him?

 

[steve vena]

I'd give him 1 year, no way 2years. We need to change things.

 

[Deleted member drgr12429]

I'd give him 1 year, no way 2years. We need to change things.

We do on the latter, but having an old experienced head in the dressing room is paramount, particularly as a lot of the old heads seem to be disappearing. 2 year contract with promise of a coaching role would be a no brainer. Remember Joao has 144 caps for his country, and is still an integral part of that set up. He is not ****.

 

[Mugwump]

You could easily give him a 2 year deal and make the second year slight less lucrative in terms of his salary but he will have that extra security. It will be madness to let him go on top of Neves.

 

[Keyser Soze]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1530488032784265216

 

[Deleted member drgr12429]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1530488032784265216

You absolutely know if he does go it's not the manager who sanctioned it, nor the players according to the Semedo interview. This would really be stupid for the club if it happened. Just give the bloke a 2 year deal ffs...

 

[Ditton Wolf]

Really concerned with the potential break up of the team with experience and the dressing room spirit. Moutinho maybe getting on but some of his performances have been a joy to watch.

Slighty off topic but we need some leaders to embed in the team for next season and mix the younger players with experience.

 

[Don Corleone]

Can't knock the club for not offering Moutinho a two-year deal.

Kind of disagree as would like to keep him, still has something to offer imo.
Rumour is 2 yr deal with Roma now on the cards??

 

[Deleted member (smith)]

I'd give him 1 year, no way 2years. We need to change things.

But Roma will give him 2 years…we should have completed this ages ago before we let Roma have the opportunity….Italian champions or relegation battle?