Gary O'Neil - tactics

[SteveBullsKnee]

Coady is no better than Dawson
Boly prime better than Toti similar type of build
Bennett we never ever replaced

Compare Bennett to Kilman sorry Bennett miles better defender

We are a lot weaker than the first season in the PL under Nuno.

Back 3/4/3 would be classic counter attacking with wingers

Why do we need two defensive midfielders on the pitch at the same time?

It’s like Quashie & Henry passing the ball to the wingers didn’t really work you need a system to suit the players

Bellegarde next to Lemina or Gomes would be good compliment for them both. Then we can pick 3 forwards which you may as well pick out of a hat.

Hwang Fraser Neto

Bring on Fabio Sasa Cunha like for like changes to devastate the opposition

If you play 3 at the back you absolutely HAVE to play with two defensive midfielders unless you have a squad that Pep has. With the quality of CB’s we have, there is absolutely no way on earth do we play 3/5 without two defensive midfielders. Imagine playing Toti Dawson Kilman with ait nouri and Semedo as WB and only one DM? Jesus that midfielder is subbing himself at half time as he’s just ran a 10km first 45 mins

 

[The Wolf In The North]

I think the debate about formation misses something crucial. O'Neil actually sets up his teams incredibly well. The half-time scorelines of our five PL games read:

0-0, 0-1, 0-0, 0-0, 1-0

We've held our own brilliantly, and whilst we've only scored one first half goal, we've only conceded one as well. And we've more than matched our opponents on the whole.

Full-time scores: 0-1, 1-4, 1-0, 2-3, 1-3. Ten goals conceded, five in the first ten minutes of the restart. This is because most PL managers tweak at half-time, set out to exploit weaknesses they've seen. They adapt mid-match. O'Neil doesn't. Lage didn't either. We're back to being hopelessly rigid and slowly reactive.

It's not the set-up, it's the inability to counter what the opponent does that screws us, plus suspect fitness levels meaning that the players can't compete as strongly as the game wears on. There's an argument to be made for starting with a 4 but putting Toti on at half-time to strengthen at our weakest time, whether replacing Ait-Nouri outright or moving to a 3 and adjusting shape in anticipation.

 

[lostwolf]

I don’t think you can point out one goal over 4 seasons with a back 3 as showing how great you can attack in a back 3.

Teams playing a back 3 get found out very quickly nowadays and that’s ok when you have quality in the team like we did. With the defenders we have now it’d be carnage and quickly. It’s just far too easy to play against and in the position we’re in with the squad we have it gives the wrong message to our own players and the opposing side.

I don’t think O’Neil is here for the long term or indeed the medium term but if he rolls out a back 3 against Luton, then we might as well raise the white flag immediately

We simply wouldn't get a kick if we played 3/5 at the back with this squad. As you said before, although I'm being creative in my paraphrasing, we'd be playing three (currently) mediocre defenders instead of the two. Then there's the issue of the lack of potency up top. Under Nuno, with Jota and Raul we had players who could score one in three-ish chances, and who were able to play on the break, alongside Doc, Traore and Johnny. These lads are decent but they can't do that. Then in midfield we have players like Lemina, Gomes and hopefully Bellegarde who can break up play and do things with the ball, but they don't necessarily have the discipline needed to play in front of a 3 to allow the wing backs to marraud. They also don't have the passing range of Mouts and Neves. All in all then, whilst I understand the impulse to return to what we've seen work in the past, and to shore up defense with another body, I think it'd be a massive retrograde step. Instead I think we need to work out how to make the current approach work.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

If you play 3 at the back you absolutely HAVE to play with two defensive midfielders unless you have a squad that Pep has. With the quality of CB’s we have, there is absolutely no way on earth do we play 3/5 without two defensive midfielders. Imagine playing Toti Dawson Kilman with ait nouri and Semedo as WB and only one DM? Jesus that midfielder is subbing himself at half time as he’s just ran a 10km first 45 mins

Lemina and Bellegarde could easily do that role for an hour

60 mins bring on Gomes Bouby or Doyle fresh legs 5 subs can be used not sure Gary knows that though

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

Lemina and Bellegarde could easily do that role for an hour

60 mins bring on Gomes Bouby or Doyle fresh legs 5 subs can be used not sure Gary knows that though

You must see different players if you think Lemina can play on his own as a defensive midfielder in front of a back three with Kilman Dawson Toti. It’d be a knife through butter. I wouldn’t expect Neves to have been able to do that alone with a significantly better back 3. I can’t think of any team barring perhaps city who have the ability to play a back 3 with a single defensive midfielder.

Plenty to knock O’Neil about but in every single game he’s made a minimum of 4 subs in a game, so he’s very aware of how many he can make

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

You must see different players if you think Lemina can play on his own as a defensive midfielder in front of a back three with Kilman Dawson Toti. It’d be a knife through butter. I wouldn’t expect Neves to have been able to do that alone with a significantly better back 3. I can’t think of any team barring perhaps city who have the ability to play a back 3 with a single defensive midfielder.

Plenty to knock O’Neil about but in every single game he’s made a minimum of 4 subs in a game, so he’s very aware of how many he can make

The timing too needs to react like JL did differences between a coach and a top class manager JL was the best manager since nuno santo

 

[OLDGOLD]

Lemina and Bellegarde could easily do that role for an hour

60 mins bring on Gomes Bouby or Doyle fresh legs 5 subs can be used not sure Gary knows that though

Can't see it Lemmy would be pulled from pillar to post and pick up even more cards, Belle would end up having to play more defensively as a result which is not, from what I gather, his game or what we got him for.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

The timing too needs to react like JL did differences between a coach and a top class manager JL was the best manager since nuno santo

Hardly a long list is it

 

[OLDGOLD]

Hardly a long list is it

Never mind the length....

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Can't see it Lemmy would be pulled from pillar to post and pick up even more cards, Belle would end up having to play more defensively as a result which is not, from what I gather, his game or what we got him for.

Until we try it we will never know I guess we can continue as we are and go full beach mode in the second half

Don’t worry lads it’s only luton they have never won a premier league game. Gary’s magic team talk sorted

 

[OLDGOLD]

Until we try it we will never know I guess we can continue as we are and go full beach mode in the second half

Don’t worry lads it’s only luton they have never won a premier league game

There has to be a middle ground between 1st and 2nd half performances. Adapting mid game is something Gary is going to have to learn quickly.

 

[thewolffromwolverhampton]

Some times when I look in the mirror, I think I look a bit like Gary O'Neil, then I try to tell myself, I am much more handsome, haha

 

[KBWWFC]

There has to be a middle ground between 1st and 2nd half performances. Adapting mid game is something Gary is going to have to learn quickly.

If he didn't learn it in his 37 games at Bournemouth, I don't think he'll learn it now.

 

[stevev53]

Just read At Nouri interview with Sky about his problems with JL and how much he and the players are enjoying the new style Of play . His premier league stats are impressive as are Neto,Lemina and Gomes . Perhaps GON isnt the clown some on here like to tell us . Give the guy some slack and be bloody patient!!!!

 

[DanishWolf]

As mentioned in the training thread, GON has said today that he has the players train at a higher intensity than Lopetegui because he don't think they are fit enough.

Now I don't buy that. We've a young team who's been prepared in preseason by a WC fitness coach.

What could worry me though is, that GON tries to implement a style that is not sustainable fitness wise in the PL and a style that he has no previous experience of implementing successfully at any level.

The signs are there already. Great First Halfs, poor Second half's where its obvious we can't keep uo the same high intensity of pressing or fast play.

 

[DanishWolf]

Just read At Nouri interview with Sky about his problems with JL and how much he and the players are enjoying the new style Of play . His premier league stats are impressive as are Neto,Lemina and Gomes . Perhaps GON isnt the clown some on here like to tell us . Give the guy some slack and be bloody patient!!!!

This interview?

Rayan Ait-Nouri exclusive interview: Wolves defender on a fresh new start under Gary O'Neil after exile under Lopetegui

Wolves defender Rayan Ait-Nouri discusses being exiled by Julen Lopetegui last season to striving under Gary ONeil; follow Luton vs Wolves on the Sky Sports live blog this Saturday from 1.30pm; kick-off 3pm; watch free match highlights from 5.15pm

www.skysports.com

His problem with JL was that JL didn't explain to him why he was dropped which is certainly odd, but not a big fuss.
As for the players enjoying the new style of play, there's one quote on that:

"O'Neil] is a coach who enjoys it when we have the ball. He has some really good ideas. You can see that on the pitch, it's nice to play in."

That is of course very positive but its Ait-Nouri alone saying it, not all the players.

I do hope of course that they're all very much on board and I'll completely admit that there was a joy and adventurous approach about them during the First half against Liverpool that made it look like they enjoy playing for him.

 

[Hot Fuss]

Oh remember, a coach who looked at the game and saw how to change it in our favour.
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So basically the reporter heaps praise on Adama and Neves. Baffled why Gaz didn’t pick them on Saturday.

 

[lets all have a disco]

Just read At Nouri interview with Sky about his problems with JL and how much he and the players are enjoying the new style Of play . His premier league stats are impressive as are Neto,Lemina and Gomes . Perhaps GON isnt the clown some on here like to tell us . Give the guy some slack and be bloody patient!!!!

Some were making out Shaun Derry was a bully last week and already upset a few ...he is on camera hugging and laughing with Jo Gomes this week ....he has obviously changed or someone was talking *******s....

 

[wolfslair]

As mentioned in the training thread, GON has said today that he has the players train at a higher intensity than Lopetegui because he don't think they are fit enough.

Now I don't buy that. We've a young team who's been prepared in preseason by a WC fitness coach.

What could worry me though is, that GON tries to implement a style that is not sustainable fitness wise in the PL and a style that he has no previous experience of implementing successfully at any level.

The signs are there already. Great First Halfs, poor Second half's where its obvious we can't keep uo the same high intensity of pressing or fast play.

He is also coaching a squad with the depth of quality that would have seen him on the bench for the reserves or frankly not even be good enough to be at the club at all as a player……

His lack of understanding “technically gifted” players I think is part of his problem and why he hasn’t got the intuition to improve anything as he was a career bang average middle of the road championship journeyman (no disrespect meant). So he doesn’t even have many good to great coaches to have learned from as a player to look back on or even call for a sort of mentoring call.

Add to that his limited managerial experience, he just hasn’t got the football and managerial IQ.

There is just too much downside with him.

It is the traditional line of the new English coach though isn’t it to have a pop at the fitness and how they are improving it. So not surprised he is trotting this line to cover up
For his poor game management and strategy.

 

[stevev53]

Could I have a link to the interview please? I wouldn't mind reading it.

I’m not too clever with links . It is on sky sports news headlines if that helps sorry

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

So basically the reporter heaps praise on Adama and Neves. Baffled why Gaz didn’t pick them on Saturday.

Yes, I think you might have (deliberately) missed the point. We played with a 4 in the first half and had a grand total of 0 shots on targets. Lopetegui made a double change at half time and changed the shape and we were the better team second half. You know all that though.

 

[Darvo]

I don’t think we have the players at all any that suit 5 at the back

I think the opposite...

Semedo, RAN & Doc are all very much suited to the wing back role. I also think the team is stronger with Toti in it (as a 3rd centre half). One of our very few physically strong players.

In addition, Gomes and Lemina are ideal for the holding midfield roles in front of the defence.

Chuck in Pedro and Bellegarde and you’re a centre forward away from a better team than how we line up at the moment.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

I think the opposite...

Semedo, RAN & Doc are all very much suited to the wing back role. I also think the team is stronger with Toti in it (as a 3rd centre half). One of our very few physically strong players.

In addition, Gomes and Lemina are ideal for the holding midfield roles in front of the defence.

Chuck in Pedro and Bellegarde and you’re a centre forward away from a better team than how we line up at the moment.

Exactly hopefully a new manager will realise this will make us stronger

 

[SoCal_Wolf]

He is also coaching a squad with the depth of quality that would have seen him on the bench for the reserves or frankly not even be good enough to be at the club at all as a player……

His lack of understanding “technically gifted” players I think is part of his problem and why he hasn’t got the intuition to improve anything as he was a career bang average middle of the road championship journeyman (no disrespect meant). So he doesn’t even have many good to great coaches to have learned from as a player to look back on or even call for a sort of mentoring call.

Seriously, why do you push the facts so hard that they're not true to prove your point. It undermines your credibility, despite your claims to authority (another argument fallacy you like to rely on).

Out of 489 league appearances over 20 years (!), 61% were played in the First Division/Premier League (almost 300 appearances). And it does count for something that he was a model pro for 20 years in the game in the top two divisions in English football, don't you think?

By all means, you can criticize his lack of managerial/coaching experience since he's only been coaching since 2020 - but to say that he doesn't know how to understand technically gifted players and only knows how to coach bang average (cloggers?) is just stupid.

 

[Bawtry Wolf]

His lack of understanding “technically gifted” players I think is part of his problem and why he hasn’t got the intuition to improve anything as he was a career bang average middle of the road championship journeyman (no disrespect meant). So he doesn’t even have many good to great coaches to have learned from as a player to look back on or even call for a sort of mentoring call.

Really not sure this statement is true or logical. There are plenty of managers who have a far worse playing career than O’Neil and didn’t work with one of the greats who went on to be great managers themselves. Zerbi played the majority of his career in Seria B and C as well as Romania. Also from a managerial perspective he wasn’t a great success immediately, getting sacked after two months at Palermo.

 

[wolfslair]

Seriously, why do you push the facts so hard that they're not true to prove your point. It undermines your credibility, despite your claims to authority (another argument fallacy you like to rely on).

Out of 489 league appearances over 20 years (!), 61% were played in the First Division/Premier League (almost 300 appearances). And it does count for something that he was a model pro for 20 years in the game in the top two divisions in English football, don't you think?

By all means, you can criticize his lack of managerial/coaching experience since he's only been coaching since 2020 - but to say that he doesn't know how to understand technically gifted players and only knows how to coach bang average (cloggers?) is just stupid.

He had a good professional career, but rarely with high level/elite players or managers that probably would help him greatly with the situation he is in now in regards to be doing all his learning on the job.

Just my personal opinion, his statements about the movement and other things about “looseness of play” “structure” and things to the effect show for me (not everyone sees it the same way) that he needs the game to be very simple, methodical and structured. His interview answers, language and answers suggest he doesn’t like unpredictability or expression outside of his plan, that suggests to me he doesn’t like those who are a bit more creative or need more freedom due to their skill sets and he will lean on the more steady eddies to build a team/rely on.

He is a by the text book coach and those coaches aren’t always fans of those who deviate off their text book as they struggle with how to work with them based on my experiences and what I have seen.

I don’t have any authority, simply a differing viewpoint from my own experience like you base your opinion on your experience of football in life.

 

[wolfslair]

Really not sure this statement is true or logical. There are plenty of managers who have a far worse playing career than O’Neil and didn’t work with one of the greats who went on to be great managers themselves. Zerbi played the majority of his career in Seria B and C as well as Romania. Also from a managerial perspective he wasn’t a great success immediately, getting sacked after two months at Palermo.

Why do people keep trying to compare him to the Brighton manager……

The Brighton manager has more years in management and has a clear understanding of his football philosophy and also who he is as a manager. Two things I strongly doubt Gary can say for himself with the journey he has chosen to take.

I think a lot of those people have a better feeling and intuition for management and football two things I think GO is lacking from watching him on the touch line, our first half to second half drop offs, and his blaming everyone but himself press conferences.

 

[Bawtry Wolf]

Why do people keep trying to compare him to the Brighton manager……

The Brighton manager has more years in management and has a clear understanding of his football philosophy and also who he is as a manager. Two things I strongly doubt Gary can say for himself with the journey he has chosen to take.

I think a lot of those people have a better feeling and intuition for management and football two things I think GO is lacking from watching him on the touch line, our first half to second half drop offs, and his blaming everyone but himself press conferences.

It was one example. You can look at plenty of managers who have had similar background. O’Neil hasn’t got the experience, he may well have a footballing philosophy I haven’t heard him espouse it but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t got one. He hasn’t, to my knowledge, done an in-depth interview about who is as a manager and his philosophy to necessarily assess whether he has one or not. Whether he has a philosophy or not doesn’t mean he can implement it - there are plenty of failed managers who talk a good game.

I am not convinced by O’Neil at all but I think some of the things you’ve said are incorrect and an attempt to properly damn him when it’s not needed as there are plenty of other things to criticise him for at this time. It is also possible he will turn everyone round.

 

[Hot Fuss]

Yes, I think you might have (deliberately) missed the point. We played with a 4 in the first half and had a grand total of 0 shots on targets. Lopetegui made a double change at half time and changed the shape and we were the better team second half. You know all that though.

Adama won the game after being bought off the bench. Neves was our best player. Neither are here anymore, but I’m sure you know all that!

Anyway, had a few and early start down to Luton tomorrow so off to bed.

 

[SoCal_Wolf]

He had a good professional career, but rarely with high level/elite players or managers that probably would help him greatly with the situation he is in now in regards to be doing all his learning on the job.

Just my personal opinion, his statements about the movement and other things about “looseness of play” “structure” and things to the effect show for me (not everyone sees it the same way) that he needs the game to be very simple, methodical and structured. His interview answers, language and answers suggest he doesn’t like unpredictability or expression outside of his plan, that suggests to me he doesn’t like those who are a bit more creative or need more freedom due to their skill sets and he will lean on the more steady eddies to build a team/rely on.

He is a by the text book coach and those coaches aren’t always fans of those who deviate off their text book as they struggle with how to work with them based on my experiences and what I have seen.

I don’t have any authority, simply a differing viewpoint from my own experience like you base your opinion on your experience of football in life.

Let's talk about this criticism of his "looseness of play" comments for a sec. I, for one, agree with him - especially, when you're talking about defensive cohesion and playing a high press. You absolutely need to work as a team in these two aspects and I think that is what he was talking about - not limiting their creativity in the offensive side of things per se (although I think there is something to be said to "arrive" in the right spots at the right time as well). When you look at some of the goals we gave up, players were grossly out of position, making unnecessary risks with challenges that left us open. I can think of two times Kilman missed challenges high up and lost players behind him, Dawson did the same against Brighton, and some of our midfielders get too aggressive as well and leave the back four exposed. Clearly, GON is allowing his players to create through ball carrying - which is probably the least controlled action on the pitch from a manager's perspective, right?

So far in the league, Wolves are:
1st in attempted take ons
2nd in take on success rate
6th in carries for total distance
6th in carries into the final third
7th in progressive carries

We're even top half (9th) in shots (but bottom three in shots on target - go figure). So, I don't think he has us playing with the hand brake on or in an overly rigid system.

As a young manager/coach, he's going to be weak(er) at in-game management and being more fluid in his approach - it almost goes without saying. He will have some growing pains in this area that will usually only be strengthened with experience over time. For better or worse, this is the direction that Hobbs wanted to go - young, up-and-coming (and cheaper) manager - and we're going to have to weather some of his mistakes as he grows as a manager.

What I look for is whether or not the players are responding to his training and tactics and playing for him. That seems to be the case so far, which is good. I also look at performance - to me, we are playing good football for the most part, with periods of defensive breakdowns and poor finishing. We're used to the latter, but not the former. He needs to cut down these errors, but still retain that aggressive/offensive flair that we've been missing for over two years now. I hope that he can do it for our sake, because we can't endure another managerial shake-up again...

 

[stevev53]

Let's talk about this criticism of his "looseness of play" comments for a sec. I, for one, agree with him - especially, when you're talking about defensive cohesion and playing a high press. You absolutely need to work as a team in these two aspects and I think that is what he was talking about - not limiting their creativity in the offensive side of things per se (although I think there is something to be said to "arrive" in the right spots at the right time as well). When you look at some of the goals we gave up, players were grossly out of position, making unnecessary risks with challenges that left us open. I can think of two times Kilman missed challenges high up and lost players behind him, Dawson did the same against Brighton, and some of our midfielders get too aggressive as well and leave the back four exposed. Clearly, GON is allowing his players to create through ball carrying - which is probably the least controlled action on the pitch from a manager's perspective, right?

So far in the league, Wolves are:
1st in attempted take ons
2nd in take on success rate
6th in carries for total distance
6th in carries into the final third
7th in progressive carries

We're even top half (9th) in shots (but bottom three in shots on target - go figure). So, I don't think he has us playing with the hand brake on or in an overly rigid system.

As a young manager/coach, he's going to be weak(er) at in-game management and being more fluid in his approach - it almost goes without saying. He will have some growing pains in this area that will usually only be strengthened with experience over time. For better or worse, this is the direction that Hobbs wanted to go - young, up-and-coming (and cheaper) manager - and we're going to have to weather some of his mistakes as he grows as a manager.

What I look for is whether or not the players are responding to his training and tactics and playing for him. That seems to be the case so far, which is good. I also look at performance - to me, we are playing good football for the most part, with periods of defensive breakdowns and poor finishing. We're used to the latter, but not the former. He needs to cut down these errors, but still retain that aggressive/offensive flair that we've been missing for over two years now. I hope that he can do it for our sake, because we can't endure another managerial shake-up again...

Great post

 

[Zico]

Just read At Nouri interview with Sky about his problems with JL and how much he and the players are enjoying the new style Of play . His premier league stats are impressive as are Neto,Lemina and Gomes . Perhaps GON isnt the clown some on here like to tell us . Give the guy some slack and be bloody patient!!!!

I remember all the alleged ITK posts that asserted RAN's problems were all personal family ones. It became accepted fact on here, I even believed it myself.

 

[DanishWolf]

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Let's talk about this criticism of his "looseness of play" comments for a sec. I, for one, agree with him - especially, when you're talking about defensive cohesion and playing a high press. You absolutely need to work as a team in these two aspects and I think that is what he was talking about - not limiting their creativity in the offensive side of things per se (although I think there is something to be said to "arrive" in the right spots at the right time as well). When you look at some of the goals we gave up, players were grossly out of position, making unnecessary risks with challenges that left us open. I can think of two times Kilman missed challenges high up and lost players behind him, Dawson did the same against Brighton, and some of our midfielders get too aggressive as well and leave the back four exposed. Clearly, GON is allowing his players to create through ball carrying - which is probably the least controlled action on the pitch from a manager's perspective, right?

So far in the league, Wolves are:
1st in attempted take ons
2nd in take on success rate
6th in carries for total distance
6th in carries into the final third
7th in progressive carries

We're even top half (9th) in shots (but bottom three in shots on target - go figure). So, I don't think he has us playing with the hand brake on or in an overly rigid system.

As a young manager/coach, he's going to be weak(er) at in-game management and being more fluid in his approach - it almost goes without saying. He will have some growing pains in this area that will usually only be strengthened with experience over time. For better or worse, this is the direction that Hobbs wanted to go - young, up-and-coming (and cheaper) manager - and we're going to have to weather some of his mistakes as he grows as a manager.

What I look for is whether or not the players are responding to his training and tactics and playing for him. That seems to be the case so far, which is good. I also look at performance - to me, we are playing good football for the most part, with periods of defensive breakdowns and poor finishing. We're used to the latter, but not the former. He needs to cut down these errors, but still retain that aggressive/offensive flair that we've been missing for over two years now. I hope that he can do it for our sake, because we can't endure another managerial shake-up again...

Definitely a very good post.
Only one reservation. My only problem with his "loosenes" comments is him alluding that this is something the previous manager didn't address or cared about which is definitely not the case.
But as I said a very good and balanced post with some important perspective to consider for all of us.

 

[SteveBullsKnee]

I think the opposite...

Semedo, RAN & Doc are all very much suited to the wing back role. I also think the team is stronger with Toti in it (as a 3rd centre half). One of our very few physically strong players.

In addition, Gomes and Lemina are ideal for the holding midfield roles in front of the defence.

Chuck in Pedro and Bellegarde and you’re a centre forward away from a better team than how we line up at the moment.

We just regress back to what we’ve been for seasons, a team that doesn’t get enough players in the opposition box to create any problems. Only difference now is we don’t have the personnel we did so that 343 or 352 looks even worse (as it won’t be as definsevely sound) and we just slowly get relegated. I don’t think O’Neil has got it right (at all) yet, but we’ve played some very good teams and gone toe to toe with them. Going back to that timid style isn’t for me. The 3 centre backs are a significant downgrade on what we had. The two centre mids in a back 3 have to be complete possession based (I love Lemina and Gomes) but on that basis they’re a massive downgrade on JM/Neves in that formation and most importantly you need a centre forward who can hold the ball up as they’ll be isolated a lot and barring a semi fit Sasa none of ours do.

 

[hollo]

I remember how the players back in the day wanted Terry Connor.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

I remember how the players back in the day wanted Terry Connor.

As a coach he was good. But he’s not a manager big differences

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

So I only had the radio comms, I think we started the same as last week, but with Hwang and Neto switched onto the wrong wings. Switched them back on about 20 mins.

After that I barely have a clue what happened?

Switched to a back 3, apparently with the same players, Semedo as RCH??

Second half back 3 with Doc as LWB?
Cunha and Neto up top?

Then Cunha goes off and Neto on his own up front?

Someone explain it all to me please!

 

[Fenrir_]

So I only had the radio comms, I think we started the same as last week, but with Hwang and Neto switched onto the wrong wings. Switched them back on about 20 mins.

After that I barely have a clue what happened?

Switched to a back 3, apparently with the same players, Semedo as RCH??

Second half back 3 with Doc as LWB?
Cunha and Neto up top?

Then Cunha goes off and Neto on his own up front?

Someone explain it all to me please!

Nah I think you've got it!

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

Nah I think you've got it!

Thanks, I don't know if I'm happy about that or not!

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

So on reflection, what did he get right and wrong yesterday?

Starting with a 4231. Wrong if understandable?

Swapping Neto and Hwang initially. Wrong?

Swapping them back. Right

Going to a 3/5 atb when we were being dominated. Right

Leaving 2 up top when we had 10 men ? Right

Bringing on Doc as a LWB. Wrong, maybe RAN was struggling, maybe Doc over Bueno for height and strength?

Leaving Neto as a lone striker .Wrong, but maybe settling for a point in a game you've been poor in with 10 men makes it understandable?

Or am I too worried about tactics and it was just about intensity?