Definitely a new era . For good or bad.

[wwbug]

This is a new era . That doesn’t mean a better era .
Something has changed we are not buying a firecracker manager as was Lopetegui or VP .
I really want Edwards to succeed . He wants this job and to be part of us. I hope we can together tough it out.
My fear is that our patience has been stretched over 5 years and how will we cope if we don’t win for another 10 matches or we only win one on five. Then Edwards is going to get a hard time but not really unpredictable.
What is in Shi’s mind ,IMO an incompetent arrogant man that has wrecked us but surely he has plans. He needs to justify his further employment to Fosun. I don’t think he will have a free pass .
My real worry is this is a cynical appointment, My hope is that it’s a well thought out and well supported appointment. How long will you give this new era ?

 

[WorcesterWanderer]

He gets this half season as a given and I will see where we are around this time next year before I start making any real judgement.

I do agree - it seems like the club has a long term plan (for once!) and I really want both it and Edwards to succeed.

 

[Rhoswolf]

Reckon the "New Era" is a 1980s revisited

 

[Darvo]

Only Shi could refer to our nose dive down to the championship as a new ‘era’.

What a load of *******s.

 

[wwbug]

Only Shi could refer to our nose dive down to the championship as a new ‘era’.

What a load of *******s.

Change is not always for the better . Shi needs to step up and lead .

 

[SingYourHeartsOut]

So want this to be a new era, but it's never really going to be a new era until Fosun sell.

 

[Wulve5]

Change is not always for the better . Shi needs to step up and lead .

Only thing Shi needs to do is pack his bags and **** off

 

[koplex]

Shi needs to step up and lead .

... or preferably step down and **** off.

 

[northnorfolkwolf]

He gets this half season as a given and I will see where we are around this time next year before I start making any real judgement.

I do agree - it seems like the club has a long term plan (for once!) and I really want both it and Edwards to succeed.

God forbid RE can get nothing out of this lot and we end up on 8-12 pts would Shi fire him? You have to believe RE has negotiated a deal where he is guaranteed to stay on after relegation and given the chance to re-build and get us back up? We can't just keep on sacking managers, can we?

 

[Wolf316]

God forbid RE can get nothing out of this lot and we end up on 8-12 pts would Shi fire him? You have to believe RE has negotiated a deal where he is guaranteed to stay on after relegation and given the chance to re-build and get us back up? We can't just keep on sacking managers, can we?

Seriously doubt any club would offer a no sack contract.

 

[Northampton_wolf]

Seriously doubt any club would offer a no sack contract.

He's not guaranteed but he's been given assurances he can give it a go to come back up he won't be sacked at the end of the year under the expectation we become at least competitive if we lose the next 26 games horrendously obviously that's different but no one expects that

His first target is a win then let's get to 20 points

 

[KnowNuttin]

New era my ****... This is less upheaval than what went on over the summer. We've only (partly) replaced the coaching staff. Over the summer they got rid of Matt Hobbs and let a journeyman coach and some bloke we'd never heard of control the transfer strategy with disastrous consequences. That was your new era and it was a complete **** up! Now they're trying to recover from the **** storm they themselves created.

 

[Don Gloomshroud]

New era my ****... This is less upheaval than what went on over the summer. We've only (partly) replaced the coaching staff. Over the summer they got rid of Matt Hobbs and let a journeyman coach and some bloke we'd never heard of control the transfer strategy with disastrous consequences. That was your new era and it was a complete **** up! Now they're trying to recover from the **** storm they themselves created.

it’s a new, new, new, new, new era.

 

[Wolves Heathen]

It may be a new era but in name only, whilst the Clown that is Shi still remains it will be a new era but with the same sh*te under different names, just take a look where our new academy coach comes from, he may as well come from Hills or Prospect coaches as they will have similar abilities,.

 

[EastDorsetWolf]

It all sounds like the mediocrity of a Championship side.

 

[northnorfolkwolf]

I'm no

It all sounds like the mediocrity of a Championship side.

Not quite sure what you are trying to say, but once our 'stars' go and a few others we are as it stands a mediocre Champs club; no more than that. I like to think RE has it in him to get us back up but that will depend on who we can bring in. I have more faith in him to find the right players than VP and Teti, but that is not difficult.

 

[wwbug]

It all sounds like the mediocrity of a Championship side.

Its a "hope for the best plan for the worst " strategy IMO

 

[maws]

It just feels like O'Neill all over again

 

[Greeno]

Hopefully this is either ‘get lucky’ and stumble upon something that works, or keep the cash back so Fosun can sell wherever happens.

 

[Mugwump]

You cant give any manager assurances they will keep their job. He could lose 10-15 straight and we look no better than we have been. His position is then untenable. Even if we do go down this isnt a free hit for Edwards just because we are in a bad position.

 

[inaglasshouse]

It's a new chapter with an old character, let's see what happens as we turn the pages.

 

[Monketron]

If he's backed over multiple windows he will get us playing some good football.

 

[Woody]

The new era is championship football followed by more championship football. We've been there many, many times before of course but most of the time with a club owner's enthusiasm to get us out. This new era comes hand in hand with a new Fosun. The project is stale, the business model 'sustainable', the days of recruiting a Neves or a Jota long gone.
I'm so thankful for our Nuno days, but I think that period will now be looked on as a positive blip.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

New era of championship football yes I understand

 

[SA Wolf]

A new era or not, it is too little, too late.

I hope Edwards succeeds and this season should be treated as a learning-curve as prep for next season's promotion push. Now I realise that will not be popular, especially among fans who have spent on season tickets, but so long as we see progress from Edwards and the squad; I'll accept it.
We're going to get worse, before better. We're going down, whether all fans accept it or not. The new era will be in the Championship and if next season is half as good as Nuno's promotion season, at least that's something to look forwards to. Out of darkness and all that....

With hindsight, the 'new era' should have begun with Loppy, despite his crap tenure at West Ham. He should have been supported, but instead, it seems he was shafted by the little creep, Shi. Loppy was the manager to build a new era around. But, we're Wolves ay we!

 

[Matt]

The only way a genuine new era starts is with a new CEO, or even better new owners.

We have started this “new era” making the same mistake again, putting a sporting director in place who isn’t qualified for the job.

 

[bigwolf]

It couldn't be further from a new era.

 

[Chisels_n_ommers]

This new era spiel is Jeff's way of preconditioning the fans to what's ahead.

Jeff's spin doctors at work again.

New players, New Division.

When we sell players and bring in whatever we're bringing in - New Era
When we go down - New Era
When ticket prices aren't reasonably adjusted - support the New Era

It was a "new management structure in the 'penny has dropped' summer a couple of months ago.


With the same old owners, same old chairman, same old run down ground - same old gaslighting.

 

[Big Saft Kid]

This is a new era . That doesn’t mean a better era .
Something has changed we are not buying a firecracker manager as was Lopetegui or VP .
I really want Edwards to succeed . He wants this job and to be part of us. I hope we can together tough it out.
My fear is that our patience has been stretched over 5 years and how will we cope if we don’t win for another 10 matches or we only win one on five. Then Edwards is going to get a hard time but not really unpredictable.
What is in Shi’s mind ,IMO an incompetent arrogant man that has wrecked us but surely he has plans. He needs to justify his further employment to Fosun. I don’t think he will have a free pass .
My real worry is this is a cynical appointment, My hope is that it’s a well thought out and well supported appointment. How long will you give this new era ?

I think it will be pretty clear by the New Year whether RE knows what he's doing, and certainly by the end of this season. I wish him well. But frankly, as long as Shi is in charge, I don't think things will ever really get better. The man is a walking disaster and that won't change whoever is team manager.

 

[Mighty Thor]

The reality is we don’t have players that will be thinking they want to stay and play in the championship. We all know it’s a hard league and requires a certain type of player which often doesn’t include ones with the recent trauma of a premier league relegation, along side a mentality of thinking “I’m better than this”.

I think Edwards is going to find it much harder than maybe he thinks it will be. The relegation part is a certain for me and I think we would struggle in the championship. We are a total mess top to bottom but Edwards seems to have a confidence, which from where I am sitting, is admirable, but based on absolutely nothing. He may be a nice guy. He may be a wolves fan. He may live in Telford and be a great family guy. He may be a credible coach. This is a mammoth job and he will get little support from fosun and Jeff. The players are sub standard and it’s unlikely he is going to convince anyone half decent or ambitious to come join this **** show.

I fear that we are doing another rinse and repeat in 18 months time with Edwards out, wolves hovering near champions ship relegation zone, and little liar Jeff proclaiming a new era.

Fosun out. Only then will we have a new era and beginning.

 

[wolfgar]

It is Nov and we are likely already planning to sell a few of our more talented players in Jan and buy some cheaper ones with an eye on next years championship under Rob Edwards. Exciting times. Thanks Fosun. Bonus for Jeff incoming.

Would not be surprised to see JSL, Andre, Joao and Arias all gone within the next few months for starters. Replaced by christ knows what. Can see Carlton Morris leading our line next season

 

[clivewolves]

Another new era.

But would anybody be surprised if in 12-18 months we have another Portuguese manager, another sporting director, and a statement from Shi saying "Jorge has always been a valued friend of Wolves." And on, and on, and on it goes.

 

[Bradstonian]

A question to those posters who have already given up on the season…
What is the minimum you expect from the players going forward?
Would you be content if they also gave up and just played out the rest of the season?
Or would you, like me, expect them to show the fight that had them winning until the final minutes against Spurs away and Brighton at home, or the first half against Burnley where they fought back from 2 down to go in level at half time.
Or maybe, when 3-0 down against Chelsea in the cup, pulling back 2, and even adding a 3rd, before eventual defeat?
Personally I would expect the latter, and for them to fight in every game going forward. That, to me, is the minimum requirement.
None of this throwing in the towel nonsense.

 

[clivewolves]

Think of this.

O'Neil kept Bournemouth up, but the board and owner decided the club needed a refresh so they sacked him and appointed a manager that has improved them.

Wolves appointed O'Neil, sacked him after a terrible run, then less than a year later tried to reappoint him only to be turned down by him.

Jeff Shi's idea of a new era was originally to go backwards.

 

[Wolf in the sun]

Would people at this point take Textor ? Just to get rid of Fosun and then deal with the new problem ?

 

[Justawolf]

More like a new error by little Shi

 

[Big Saft Kid]

Think of this.

O'Neil kept Bournemouth up, but the the board and owner decided the club needed a refresh so they sacked him and appointed a manager that has improved them.

Wolves appointed O'Neil, sacked him after a terrible run, then less than a year later tried to reappoint him only to be turned down by him.

Jeff Shi's idea of a new era was originally to go backwards.

O'Neil was cheap and available. And Shi knew he wouldn't be a difficult customer. That's how Shi reasons and how he operates. Very similar reasoning behind the appointment of Edwards. Cheap, available and manipulable.

 

[Madmalc]

What is in Shi’s mind ,IMO an incompetent arrogant man that has wrecked us but surely he has plans. He needs to justify his further employment to Fosun. I don’t think he will have a free pass .
My real worry is this is a cynical appointment, My hope is that it’s a well thought out and well supported appointment. How long will you give this new era ?

1. What is in Shi's mind - how quickly can I drop this and get back to Esports.
2. Well thought out, that's an oxymoron when it comes to Shi's and Fosun’s relationship with Wolves.
3. Well supported appointment. The last one of those was Lopetegui's Janaury window. I don't see this one being as good.
4. How long will I give this new era? It might see out the January Window, but history tells me the Summer window will be a turning point, and next Christmas will most likely see a parting of the ways. Irrespective of what league we're in by then.

 

[Madmalc]

God forbid RE can get nothing out of this lot and we end up on 8-12 pts would Shi fire him? You have to believe RE has negotiated a deal where he is guaranteed to stay on after relegation and given the chance to re-build and get us back up? We can't just keep on sacking managers, can we?

Yes, Shi can.
Although they will be lower and lower calibre managers, as the basket case in charge of us drives any player or coach with ambition away.
Afterall his statement, 'If you want European football or to win something, maybe Wolves isn't the club for you!' wasn't just a message for the fans.

 

[Rubberball]

A question to those posters who have already given up on the season…
What is the minimum you expect from the players going forward?
Would you be content if they also gave up and just played out the rest of the season?
Or would you, like me, expect them to show the fight that had them winning until the final minutes against Spurs away and Brighton at home, or the first half against Burnley where they fought back from 2 down to go in level at half time.
Or maybe, when 3-0 down against Chelsea in the cup, pulling back 2, and even adding a 3rd, before eventual defeat?
Personally I would expect the latter, and for them to fight in every game going forward. That, to me, is the minimum requirement.
None of this throwing in the towel nonsense.

Chemical Ali stuff.